[Purchase advice request] A low-mid range gaming pc

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Found 27th Dec 2017
Dear HUKD crew,

I would really appreciate if you could give me advice on buying(and building) a PC. I did not find another subreddit more suitable for this thus am writing here.

The purpose of the PC is to serve as gaming and study machine for my younger brother. He's almost 15. Our budget is not high. We would like to fit into 600 pounds including a screen. Are there any options?

Thank you in advance!
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600 pound is quite a lot to be honest for low end pc. U can get gtx 1050ti pc easily from ebay for 330 quid. Get a second hand/refurbished monitor for another 50 quid and spare maybe 50 quid to get OK mouse and keyboard
uk.pcpartpicker.com/

To build it then shop around for best prices. Look at used video cards and processors (CEx for example) etc.

Don't go cheap on the power supply.
Edited by: "hearts22" 27th Dec 2017
uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/kGzMPs

here is a good starting point.

Ryzen 5 1400 based so can be upgraded down the line and the B350 chipset allows for overclocking.

i've spec'd it to be easily upgradeable - you might be able to squeeze a 3GB 1060 in the budget if you sacrifice elsewhere

i also specified 2 x 4GB RAM dimms of 3000mhz. Ryzen likes dual channel, fast RAM which somewhat limits the upgrade path but its best for now.

no SSD in order to be able to include the monitor but you can add one later (highly recommended)

edit - this is based on buying brand new. obviously used parts present better value
Edited by: "adamspencer95" 27th Dec 2017
On benchmarks, ryzen performs poorly against intel's CPUs. It's just not worth the extra cost. A G4560 provides phenomenal value as it performs almost as well as an i3-7100, but is around £30 cheaper. There's a reason why sites like tomshardware recommend this pentium for budget builds, but not the ryzen. At your budget, by sticking to a budget CPU (which still provides excellent performance), you can grab a 1060 gpu:

PCPartPicker part list: uk.pcpartpicker.com/lis…XXH
Price breakdown by merchant: uk.pcpartpicker.com/lis…nt/

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor (£59.98 @ PC World Business)
Motherboard: MSI - B250M PRO-VH Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£48.99 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Kingston - FURY 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (£35.99 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£37.79 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: PNY - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Video Card (£173.15 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Deepcool - TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case (£24.99 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: EVGA - 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply (£43.50 @ Aria PC)
Monitor: LG - 24MP58VQ-P 23.8" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor (£127.19 @ CCL Computers)

Total: £551.58

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-27 11:50 GMT+0000
Alternate build with a 1060 6GB GPU and slightly smaller monitor, in case you want to really push the gaming performance and don't mind a smaller screen:

PCPartPicker part list: uk.pcpartpicker.com/lis…qYr
Price breakdown by merchant: uk.pcpartpicker.com/lis…nt/

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor (£59.98 @ PC World Business)
Motherboard: MSI - B250M PRO-VH Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£48.99 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Kingston - FURY 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (£35.99 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£37.79 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Dual Video Card (£247.50 @ Aria PC)
Case: Deepcool - TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case (£24.99 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: EVGA - 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply (£43.50 @ Aria PC)
Monitor: Acer - R221Q 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor (£94.99 @ Amazon UK)

Total: £593.73

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-27 11:58 GMT+0000
bjrosl2 h, 55 m ago

Alternate build with a 1060 6GB GPU and slightly smaller monitor, in case …Alternate build with a 1060 6GB GPU and slightly smaller monitor, in case you want to really push the gaming performance and don't mind a smaller screen:PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/vLhqYrPrice breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/vLhqYr/by_merchant/CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor (£59.98 @ PC World Business) Motherboard: MSI - B250M PRO-VH Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£48.99 @ Ebuyer) Memory: Kingston - FURY 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (£35.99 @ Ebuyer) Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£37.79 @ Aria PC) Video Card: Palit - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Dual Video Card (£247.50 @ Aria PC) Case: Deepcool - TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case (£24.99 @ Ebuyer) Power Supply: EVGA - 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply (£43.50 @ Aria PC) Monitor: Acer - R221Q 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor (£94.99 @ Amazon UK) Total: £593.73Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when availableGenerated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-27 11:58 GMT+0000


4GB of RAM

are you having a laugh?
adamspencer951 h, 32 m ago

4GB of RAMare you having a laugh?



1) ram is very expensive right now.

2) ram is very easy to upgrade.

3) gaming performance is far more dependent on gpu+cpu than ram, 4GB is fine, especially on a tight budget.
4GB is not fine for any AAA games within the past 3 years. pairing 4GB RAM with a 1060 is bonkers

'its expensive, so use less of it' is a pretty shady justification.


edit

if you need proof, here you go

Edited by: "adamspencer95" 27th Dec 2017
adamspencer9546 m ago

4GB is not fine for any AAA games within the past 3 years. pairing 4GB RAM …4GB is not fine for any AAA games within the past 3 years. pairing 4GB RAM with a 1060 is bonkers'its expensive, so use less of it' is a pretty shady justification.editif you need proof, here you go[Video]


techspot.com/art…tml "Of the now 20 plus games we actively benchmark with, the only other game to exceed 6GB of memory usage was F1 2015 and all three memory configurations delivered the exact same 109fps." Even for Arkham, which was the worst memory hog, there was just a 4% difference between 4gb and 16gb!
bjrosl14 m ago

https://www.techspot.com/article/1043-8gb-vs-16gb-ram/page3.html "Of the …https://www.techspot.com/article/1043-8gb-vs-16gb-ram/page3.html "Of the now 20 plus games we actively benchmark with, the only other game to exceed 6GB of memory usage was F1 2015 and all three memory configurations delivered the exact same 109fps." Even for Arkham, which was the worst memory hog, there was just a 4% difference between 4gb and 16gb!


wow, way to be selective about what you extract from the article

all other pages showed a huge performance hit when stepping down to 4GB. and how would F1 2015 use 6.2GB if there was only 4GB available?

once you add windows in, that 4GB actually becomes 2.5GB at best.

even the summary of the article you linked states 8GB should be an absolute minimum, with 16GB being mostly unnecessary unless for productivity
I’ll be honest I would spend the money on monitor, PSU, Mobo, ram, ssd and processor and buy a budget graphics card which you can upgrade at a later date. If you buy a cheap cpu you will more than likely need to upgrade the motherboard, ram and processor at a later date when you want to upgrade it which will cost more whereas if you get reasonably good stuff now the graphics card is easy to upgrade later. Even the budget cards can play a lot of reasonably demanding games on medium, you could always opt for a second hand card too.
cmdr_elito27th Dec

I’ll be honest I would spend the money on monitor, PSU, Mobo, ram, ssd and …I’ll be honest I would spend the money on monitor, PSU, Mobo, ram, ssd and processor and buy a budget graphics card which you can upgrade at a later date. If you buy a cheap cpu you will more than likely need to upgrade the motherboard, ram and processor at a later date when you want to upgrade it which will cost more whereas if you get reasonably good stuff now the graphics card is easy to upgrade later. Even the budget cards can play a lot of reasonably demanding games on medium, you could always opt for a second hand card too.


thank you for your response. Any particular parts?
Imfromthenet3 h, 25 m ago

thank you for your response. Any particular parts?


Something like this perhaps £656 was closest I could get without compromising on the build too much: uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/rjNBQV


PCPartPicker part list: uk.pcpartpicker.com/lis…BQV
Price breakdown by merchant: uk.pcpartpicker.com/lis…nt/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (£166.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.31 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: MSI - B350M PRO-VDH Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£65.66 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£59.30 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial - BX300 240GB 2.5” Solid State Drive (£62.00 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: XFX - Radeon RX 550 4GB Video Card (£85.31 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£49.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£47.97 @ Box Limited)
Monitor: AOC - G2260VWQ6 21.5” 1920x1080 75Hz Monitor (£94.28 @ More Computers)
Total: £656.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-12-30 19:58 GMT+0000
Edited by: "cmdr_elito" 30th Dec 2017
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