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    Question for network gurus - WEP and WPA on same ISP - possible?

    Hi all

    I am not sure about this hence the question.

    A friend (who works from home) has been told by his employer that they will no longer provide a business phone line / broadband connection.

    His only option now is to use his own Virgin cable phone and braodband with a contribution from his employer. He is happy enough with this setup as it does not leave him out of pocket.

    However his business laptop is so old it does not support WPA only WEP so his employers IT guts have told him his only options are to downgrade the security on his current router in order to connect the compnay laptop or gert another ISP only for business use and pay for it himself! not the best option as he would need another BT line.

    So I wondered if it possible to have more than one access point of the same router - i.e. the build in WiFi access point in the router running WPA for all other computers in the house and a second access point connected to the router running WEP on another SSID. Obviously the DHCP would need some setting up - or have the one business laptop on a fixed IP address with WEP outside of the main SSID/ routers DHCP range.

    Does this make sense? Would it work?

    Or is there a router that would allow WEP and WPA connections? Not sure about this idea!

    any help gratefully received

    EliTom

    11 Comments

    simple solution: cat5 cable

    what would be the point in WPA and WEP? your network would only be secure as the WEP surely?
    If you were to go down the route of using both protocols, the easiest option would to have two routers, one with all the routing turned off, configured as an access point

    Original Poster

    wobinb

    simple solution: cat5 cablewhat would be the point in WPA and WEP? your … simple solution: cat5 cablewhat would be the point in WPA and WEP? your network would only be secure as the WEP surely?If you were to go down the route of using both protocols, the easiest option would to have two routers, one with all the routing turned off, configured as an access point



    Doh - why the ..... did I not think of that !

    Will get mately to discuss with his IT guys but can;t see how they can say no - assuming it has an ethernet port in teh antique lappy

    cheers mate

    he will just need a couple of home plug thingies to make the wiring easier to his home office!

    EliTom

    This should work providing you have default gateway set, then all should be ok.

    Original Poster

    he wants to use the business lappy wirelessly

    so if I get him a basic access point and connect it to the existing Netgear router and turn-off DHCP on the new access point and set up a static ip on it with a new SSID and WEP - will this work?

    EliTom

    Original Poster

    dcx_badass

    Yes but when that wep is cracked they have full network access anyway.



    ah bu%%er - did not see it that way!

    looks like homeplugs will be the way to go.

    one further question if I may....

    is it possible to have say one master homeplug connected to the router and more than one (maybe two or three) acting slaves, i.e. those you connect the computer to. ?

    EliTom

    elitom

    ah bu%%er - did not see it that way!looks like homeplugs will be the way … ah bu%%er - did not see it that way!looks like homeplugs will be the way to go.one further question if I may....is it possible to have say one master homeplug connected to the router and more than one (maybe two or three) acting slaves, i.e. those you connect the computer to. ?EliTom



    Yes, I had three 'slaves' before I upgraded to everything being hard wired

    I wouldn't worry too much about anyone hacking your network, WPA (depending on password strength) can also be cracked, I have cracked all of my neighbours passwords on WPA, just for fun though I would never use it for other purposes, just wanted to see how easy it was.
    Edited by: "jayjayuk1234" 25th Oct 2010

    Original Poster

    jayjayuk1234

    I wouldn't worry too much about anyone hacking your network, WPA … I wouldn't worry too much about anyone hacking your network, WPA (depending on password strength) can also be cracked, I have cracked all of my neighbours passwords on WPA, just for fun though I would never use it for other purposes, just wanted to see how easy it was.



    LOL - I know that feeling

    he has at least one "local" SSID that is open but as he lives on a main A-road there is still more risk with WEP.

    I will tell him his two options are live with WEP and the "increased" risk or go homeplu route

    thanks all

    EliTom

    The fact here is that regardless if it is WEP or WPA the tools used by hackers are pretty much the same, WPA is just slightly more inconvenient, but nevertheless If someone has taken the trouble to hack you and they have malicious intent, it won't make a hell of a lot of difference.

    Edited by: "jayjayuk1234" 25th Oct 2010

    Original Poster

    jayjayuk1234

    The fact here is that regardless if it is WEP or WPA the tools used by … The fact here is that regardless if it is WEP or WPA the tools used by hackers are pretty much the same, WPA is just slightly more inconvenient, but nevertheless If someone has taken the trouble to hack you and they have malicious intent, it won't make a hell of a lot of difference.



    too true

    EliTom

    Buffalo do routers with the ability to set up seperate security settings for different clients. that would be what you was asking for
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