Rattling inside my modded wii.... UPDATE: It's the switch for the cyclowiz mod-chip :-(

Don't know what it is, but sounds like a screw or something that falls about when I move the machine. The wii is working fine, backup discs are playing, but do you reckon it's worth opening up to check? Only want to do so if it's relively easy to open and there are no risks doing so. Anyone here opened a wii before and do they suggest I have a look or just leave it alone? I don't have any special tools btw in case they are needed. Thanks

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need a triwing screwdriver

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guerilla;2792453

need a triwing screwdriver



thanks for that - I'll use google to see what that is! Have you opened a wii with no probs? Is it easy and without risks as long as I'm careful to remove the cover and not do anything stupid like cut the red wire?!

no cut the yellow wire

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masterruckus;2792495

no cut the yellow wire



Thank goodness you told me that! Rep added - I would have actually cut the black wire if you hadn't put me right. You're a star! :thumbsup:

If it not bust, then do not muck around is the way I look at it.

Liddle ol' me;2792485

thanks for that - I'll use google to see what that is! Have you opened a … thanks for that - I'll use google to see what that is! Have you opened a wii with no probs? Is it easy and without risks as long as I'm careful to remove the cover and not do anything stupid like cut the red wire?!



If you can wait then places like Dealexteme have the triwing screwdrivers, sure plenty of others will too!

dealextreme.com/det…905 $1.49 delivered!

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bjmcghee;2792534

If you can wait then places like Dealexteme have the triwing … If you can wait then places like Dealexteme have the triwing screwdrivers, sure plenty of others will too!



Thanks bjmmcghee - yes, I'm in no hurry as long as the Wii continues to work. In fact, I just might not bother. I'm leaning towards the "why bother as long as it works" answer, unless someone convinces me that this is not the best response :thumbsup:

edit - and thanks for the link. VERY expensive though - don't know if I can afford it

dealextreme.com/det…905
Are the screwdrivers needed to open the wii :thumbsup:

Liddle ol' me;2792523

Thank goodness you told me that! Rep added - I would have actually cut … Thank goodness you told me that! Rep added - I would have actually cut the black wire if you hadn't put me right. You're a star! :thumbsup:



]Help :thumbsup:

I watched one of my mates do it when he chipped his Wii and it takes a few screws and you need to remove the white stickers over them first to take the drive, etc. out.

there's plenty of guides to opening up the wii, ive never done it myself but the instructions are normally step by step. if its still working though i'd be inclined to think "why bother?"

might be worth getting those drivers though, just incase the rattle develops, plus its quite funny to order something all the way from hong kong for 80p (or is that just me)

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MoneySavingG;2792568

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.2905Are the screwdrivers needed … http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.2905Are the screwdrivers needed to open the wii



bjmcghee;2792571

]Help :thumbsup:I watched one of my mates do it when he chipped his Wii … ]Help :thumbsup:I watched one of my mates do it when he chipped his Wii and it takes a few screws and you need to remove the white stickers over them first to take the drive, etc. out.



guerilla;2792597

there's plenty of guides to opening up the wii, ive never done it myself … there's plenty of guides to opening up the wii, ive never done it myself but the instructions are normally step by step. if its still working though i'd be inclined to think "why bother?" might be worth getting those drivers though, just incase the rattle develops, plus its quite funny to order something all the way from hong kong for 80p (or is that just me)



and thanks to you too :thumbsup: darn it, I'll go ahead and buy them then. After reading the reviews on DX, I reckon they are good to have since we have so many nintendo consoles in the house (erm... six in total :oops:) so one of them is bound to need to be opened eventually, even if it by a technical dunderhead like me.

btw, it also nice to see my responses from a few of the HUKD characters I respect most. :). I appreciate your help guys - thanks :thumbsup:

"If it aint broke, dont fix it"....IMO

I've opened my Wii and thought it was pretty easy. Heres some ]instructions if you fancy having a go. But if it was me, I'd leave it as it is.

I would personally open it and repair/remove the offending item as it may become lodged in the mechanism or if its a screw short something out on one of the many circuit boards, in fact I wouldnt dream of powering the system until its sorted due to this, the biggest risk I would say is of shorting something = very bad!!!

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Scream;2792660

"If it aint broke, dont fix it"....IMO



iand68;2792666

I've opened my Wii and thought it was pretty easy. Heres some … I've opened my Wii and thought it was pretty easy. Heres some ]instructions if you fancy having a go. But if it was me, I'd leave it as it is.



Thanks guys - yes, the decision is now made. I'll order the screwdrivers just to have, but won't both messing around with it unless a problem develops. It's probably just a bit of plastic or a screw that won't do any harm. :thumbsup:

Over and out on this thread - expiring now.

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Liddle ol' me;2792700

Thanks guys - yes, the decision is now made. I'll order the screwdrivers … Thanks guys - yes, the decision is now made. I'll order the screwdrivers just to have, but won't both messing around with it unless a problem develops. It's probably just a bit of plastic or a screw that won't do any harm. :thumbsup:Over and out on this thread - expiring now.



Ask on here, if anybody has any spare screwdriver's, they can post to you.

Or try [url]www.freecycle.org[/url]

[quote=Liddle ol' me;2792700]t's probably just a bit of plastic or [COLOR=Red]a screw that won't do any harm. [/COLOR] :thumbsup:
/quote]

Like I said above a screw can do a lot of harm to the extent of killing the console completely:thumbsup:

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harlzter;2792699

I would personally open it and repair/remove the offending item as it may … I would personally open it and repair/remove the offending item as it may become lodged in the mechanism or if its a screw short something out on one of the many circuit boards, in fact I wouldnt dream of powering the system until its sorted due to this, the biggest risk I would say is of shorting something = very bad!!!



PAUSE!

Hmmm ... more thinking :thinking: Ok, thanks for your thoughts. I'll look through the guides and go for it - carefully! - when the screwdriver arrives. Thanks harlzter :thumbsup:

Was this a social experiment!

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black gerbil1;2792764

Was this a social experiment!



:lol: Well, if it was, the responses were very positive and have renewed my faith in humanity! ;-)

But a small update with a real experiment of sorts I've just completed: with my ear carefully applied to the console and about 20 careful back and forth movements, I'm 95% sure that the foreign object is at the top of the wi, inside the area with the gamecube controller plugs - not inside the main section (if that makes sense). Still need to look at the diagrams to get a better understanding of what this means, but I'm guessing this is better than something rattling around in the bottom (main section) where the motherboard etc is. harlzter got me worried but thinking it's ok now. :thumbsup:

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UPDATE: Now know what it is. The switch from the modchip is missing from the bottom - there is just a screw with a hole though it where the swich should be. It has obviously worked loose and fallen inside the console. The chip is working fine EXCEPT that SSBB won't play. All my other back up discs will play. But the problem is I can't turn what the seller tells me is the 'stealth mode' on or off. A bigger problem is whether these bits of metal rattling about inside will cause more serious damage if I don't get it fixed. This is not my day, it seems :-( And I can now confirm that my ear was bad in the first place. It is at the bottom...

oh dear! guess you waiting till your screwdriver comes

i took my wii apart to mod it and im female so that says it all hehe

in all seriousness tho there are alot of screws and paper and rubber bits to remove and its a complicated process but if u follow a guide u should be ok.

just make sure u keep the screws togetherand remember what goes where for reassembling!

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onlyme23;2794001

i took my wii apart to mod it and im female so that says it all hehein … i took my wii apart to mod it and im female so that says it all hehein all seriousness tho there are alot of screws and paper and rubber bits to remove and its a complicated process but if u follow a guide u should be ok.just make sure u keep the screws togetherand remember what goes where for reassembling!



Ok, that gives me some confidence The main worry then would seem to be getting the actual modchip parts back together. You might see pictures on the forum sometime later with a "here are the bits - how do they fit together?!" message attached I'll try to keep smiling though :thumbsup:

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Just an update for myself as much as anything. Found this elsewhere re the purpose of the switch:

"The switch allows you to switch between GAME MODE and UPDATE/PROGRAMMER … "The switch allows you to switch between GAME MODE and UPDATE/PROGRAMMER MODE, allowing access to the chip. This also takes the chip out of stealth mode, which is the reason why you need the switch - if you could update without the switch, the chip would always be in PROGRAMMER MODE and would be detected by Wii Firmware updates, which would make the chip quite useless, so you need the switch."



Well at least I'm lucky that in the worst case scenario and the switch can't be fixed, at least it is stuck in game mode. If it was stuck in programmer mode then I presumably couldn't even play any games. So am I right in thinking this means my main problem is that without the switch I cannot update the modchip, but can get wii updates without any danger as it's in stealth mode?

Another question: Although I can get all the other backups to work, SSBB won't. I know it's a good backup copy of SSBB as it has worked on another modded wii and I don't think the switch issue could have anything to do with it as all other games are working fine. The system is on Ver. 3.1E - do I need a Wii update to get this to work, and what are the cons/dangers with the update? Thanks

from way i read it any wii updates could update the firmware which would then make the chip useless so u wouldnt be able to update it at all.

Most likely reason for the game not playing would be a firmware issue i would guess, but by updating your risking nothing working.

You might be better trying to fix the chip before carrying out any updates!!

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onlyme23;2796180

from way i read it any wii updates could update the firmware which would … from way i read it any wii updates could update the firmware which would then make the chip useless so u wouldnt be able to update it at all.Most likely reason for the game not playing would be a firmware issue i would guess, but by updating your risking nothing working.You might be better trying to fix the chip before carrying out any updates!!



I took the chance and updated wirelessly :oops:- looked around the specialist boards discussing this and there seemed to be no risk as long as the modchip was in stealth/game mode, which it is. Anyway, it's updated but SBBB still doesn't work so it probably wasn't worth it as the only change is that I've lost the ability to use freeloader with the latest update! But that doesn't bother me as I have no need for it anyway. but I'll leave that issue for the time-being and try and resolve it again after removing (fixing if I can) the switch. Tbh, in some ways I'm looking fwd to taking the wii apart for the experience! I've agreed with the seller that I'll keep it and take all the responsibilities / risks myself (he was VERY decent throughout and offered a full refund if I wanted to return it btw - I would recommend him to anyone 100% btw :thumbsup:)

Liddle ol' me;2797924

..........Tbh, in some ways I'm looking fwd to taking the wii apart for … ..........Tbh, in some ways I'm looking fwd to taking the wii apart for the experience! .......



and there was me thinking you were one of those poncy language types :thumbsup: I really like taking things apart to see what's there etc. i inherited this from my dad (or maybe its a trait in all of mankind) unlike my dad though i have the ability to put it all back together. are you just waiting for your screwdrivers then? i remembered that in halfords (and some of the larger asda stores) they sell a draper value ratchet screwdriver set for about £3 this has got triwing driver bits in it. might be worth getting if your in a hurry and cant wait for dealextreme

its not too hard to take apart at all tbh, takes a while but just take your time.

Have you had SSBB working before?
Its a dual layer disc for SSBB, do you know if your chip is capable of playing dual layers?

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phil001;2798141

its not too hard to take apart at all tbh, takes a while but just take … its not too hard to take apart at all tbh, takes a while but just take your time.Have you had SSBB working before?Its a dual layer disc for SSBB, do you know if your chip is capable of playing dual layers?



not sure if it's a DL disc (any way of telling by looking?) but yes this chip can play them and did previously, and this particular disc has also worked on the same modchip previously. The seller formatted the system memory before passing it on to me, so I'm thinking this may have something to do with it. That's why I did the firmware update last night. This one is really puzzling me, because the switch issue should not be related as all the other games are fine so the chip is working properly. :thinking:
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