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    Replacement motherboad for Asus P5SD1-FM2/S

    Although I can fix most software problems, my hardware knowledge leaves a lot ot be desired.

    Basically I need to replace a knackered Asus P5SD1-FM2/S motherboard.

    What's the easiest way of finding a compatible board? It needs to be compatible with

    P4 processor
    DDR RAM
    PCI-e graphics card (but on board graphics would be fine.
    SATA HDD

    It's going in a Fujitsu Scaleo P tower PC

    I'm desperate for help here, so anyone who helps is gonna get repped

    39 Comments

    Not sure you'll find many Socket 775 motherboards taking DDR memory from the major suppliers.

    Your best bet is probably Ebay. You may even find a direct replacement there. :thumbsup:

    Original Poster

    Is it definitely socket 775 then?
    I thought it was socket 478 for some reason. Did you manage to find the specs of it?

    Oddly, it's not listed on the Asus site. I found this on Ebay but it's already sold.


    Spec is on page - certainly seems to be S775.

    Ebay link doesn't work so look for item number 350124344974!

    post a pick of the mainboard and i'll tell u what format it is, prob a special one made for fs, take the opp to move to ddr2, the play deals for [email protected]£15.00 make it easy

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    Thanks maddogb. What bit do you want a picture of? Do you want me to whip out the processor or do you just want an overhead shot?

    Greg;3533938

    Thanks maddogb. What bit do you want a picture of? Do you want me to whip … Thanks maddogb. What bit do you want a picture of? Do you want me to whip out the processor or do you just want an overhead shot?



    over head with side panel off will be fine

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    maddogb;3534195

    over head with side panel off will be fine



    Thanks mate. I'll get the photo taken tomorrow.

    Original Poster

    Just out of interest, how do you tell which socket it is from the top view?

    I think that you can be fairly certain that it's a S775. Asus seem to use P4***** for S478 Pentium 4s and P5**** for S775 Pentium 4, Dual core etc boards.

    You could try their technical support to be sure. From memory, I think that their on-line tech support is OK.

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    Greg;3529403

    Is it definitely socket 775 then?I thought it was socket 478 for some … Is it definitely socket 775 then?I thought it was socket 478 for some reason. Did you manage to find the specs of it?



    Yep it's Socket 775.

    There is a similar used board on Dabs.com for £16.82,here: dabs.com/pro…000

    Personally I would get a newer board and put some DDR2 memory in it, as maddogb suggests

    Hope it helps

    Oh ye', this is your current board spec. so you can compare it. And you will probably have to put the sata drivers on a floppy disk to install them, if you are installing XP.

    Form Factor ATX, 240x240mm
    CPU Socket 775 for Intel Pentium 4 / Celeron Intel ® EM64T / EIST / Hyper-Threading Technology
    Chipset SiS 965
    Front Side Bus Front Side Bus 800/533 MHz
    Memory 2 x DIMM, max. 2GB, DDR-PC3200 400 Mhz, non-ECC, un-buffered memory
    Expansion Slots Expansion Slots 1 x PCI-E x16
    3 x PCI
    Storage/RAID Storage / RAID 2 x UltraDMA 133/100/66
    4 x Serial ATA, RAID 0, RAID 1, JBOD
    Audio ADI AD1986A 6-channel CODEC
    Jack Sensing and Enumeration
    LAN Intel 82540 PCI Gb LAN controller / RTL8201CL Realtek PHY (Optional)
    USB 8 USB2.0 ports
    Special Features Special Features ASUS AI Overclocking
    ASUS CPR
    ASUS MyLogo
    ASUS Q-Fan
    CPU, Memory voltage adjustable
    SFS (Stepless Frequency Selection) from 133MHz up to 300MHz at 1MHz increment
    Back Panel I/O Ports Back Panel I / O Ports 1 x Parallel
    1 x PS/2 Keyboard + Mouse
    1 x COM1
    1 x Audio I/O
    1 x RJ45 +USB
    1 x S/PDIF Out (Coaxial)
    4 x USB
    Internal I/O Connectors Internal I / O Connectors 2 x USB connector supports additional 4 USB ports
    24-pin ATX Power connector
    4-pin ATX 12V Power connector
    CD / AUX audio in
    Chassis Intrusion
    CPU / Chassis FAN connectors
    Front panel audio connector
    GAME/MIDI connector
    S/PDIF out connector
    BIOS 4 Mb Flash ROM, AMI BIOS, (TCAV), PnP, DMI2.0, WfM2.0, SM BIOS 2.3, ASUS EZ Flash, ASUS CrashFree BIOS 2
    Manageability WfM 2.0, DMI 2.0, WOL by PXE 's WfM specification 2.0, DMI 2.0, WOL by PXE
    WfM 2.0, DMI 2.0, WOR, WOL by PME, WOR by PME, WO USB, WO KB/MS, SM Bus 's WfM specification 2.0, DMI 2.0, CMO, WOL by PME, the CMO by SMEs, CA USB CA KB / MS, SM Bus

    Edit: coz of a spalling mishtake

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    soupy;3538652

    Yep it's Socket 775.There is a similar used board on Dabs.com for … Yep it's Socket 775.There is a similar used board on Dabs.com for £16.82,here: http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=3T56&CategorySelectedId=11143&PageMode=1&NavigationKey=11143,50970000,48760000Personally I would get a newer board and put some DDR2 memory in it, as maddogb suggests :)Hope it helps :)Oh ye', this is your current board spec. so you can compare it. And you will probably have to put the sata drivers on a floppy disk to install them, if you are installing XP.Form Factor ATX, 240x240mm CPU Socket 775 for Intel Pentium 4 / Celeron Intel ® EM64T / EIST / Hyper-Threading Technology Chipset SiS 965 Front Side Bus Front Side Bus 800/533 MHz Memory 2 x DIMM, max. 2GB, DDR-PC3200 400 Mhz, non-ECC, un-buffered memory Expansion Slots Expansion Slots 1 x PCI-E x16 3 x PCI Storage/RAID Storage / RAID 2 x UltraDMA 133/100/66 4 x Serial ATA, RAID 0, RAID 1, JBOD Audio ADI AD1986A 6-channel CODEC Jack Sensing and Enumeration LAN Intel 82540 PCI Gb LAN controller / RTL8201CL Realtek PHY (Optional) USB 8 USB2.0 ports Special Features Special Features ASUS AI Overclocking ASUS CPR ASUS MyLogo ASUS Q-Fan CPU, Memory voltage adjustable SFS (Stepless Frequency Selection) from 133MHz up to 300MHz at 1MHz increment Back Panel I/O Ports Back Panel I / O Ports 1 x Parallel 1 x PS/2 Keyboard + Mouse 1 x COM11 x Audio I/O 1 x RJ45 +USB 1 x S/PDIF Out (Coaxial) 4 x USB Internal I/O Connectors Internal I / O Connectors 2 x USB connector supports additional 4 USB ports24-pin ATX Power connector 4-pin ATX 12V Power connector CD / AUX audio in Chassis Intrusion CPU / Chassis FAN connectors Front panel audio connector GAME/MIDI connector S/PDIF out connector BIOS 4 Mb Flash ROM, AMI BIOS, (TCAV), PnP, DMI2.0, WfM2.0, SM BIOS 2.3, ASUS EZ Flash, ASUS CrashFree BIOS 2 Manageability WfM 2.0, DMI 2.0, WOL by PXE 's WfM specification 2.0, DMI 2.0, WOL by PXE WfM 2.0, DMI 2.0, WOR, WOL by PME, WOR by PME, WO USB, WO KB/MS, SM Bus 's WfM specification 2.0, DMI 2.0, CMO, WOL by PME, the CMO by SMEs, CA USB CA KB / MS, SM BusEdit: coz of a spalling mishtake



    Absolute legend. Where did you find this?

    Original Poster

    I'm happy to take your advice and and go for a newer board with the DDR2 in it.
    Any recommendations?
    Also, the pc doesn't have a floppy drive, so how would I install the SATA drivers? Would it be easier just to run a Windows repair?

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    Greg;3541827

    I'm happy to take your advice and and go for a newer board with the DDR2 … I'm happy to take your advice and and go for a newer board with the DDR2 in it.Any recommendations?Also, the pc doesn't have a floppy drive, so how would I install the SATA drivers? Would it be easier just to run a Windows repair?



    Whats your budget for a newer board & ram?
    And how much ram do you want?

    found the board spec on google

    Its a catch 22 with that board and sata drivers, you need the sata drivers installed even to do a repair, otherwise it won't see the drive, so the only way I can think of installing without a floppy drive is making a new xp install disc and adding the sata drivers to it using nlite: nliteos.com/nli…tml

    they are diff methods of fitting the heatsink on 478/775 boards
    many boards actually have the ability to emulate ide on the sata channels so floppies aren't actually required unless you are using the sata for raid.
    usually its just a case of knowing the right settings to change in the bios

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    soupy;3543084

    Whats your budget for a newer board & ram?And how much ram do you … Whats your budget for a newer board & ram?And how much ram do you want?found the board spec on googleIts a catch 22 with that board and sata drivers, you need the sata drivers installed even to do a repair, otherwise it won't see the drive, so the only way I can think of installing without a floppy drive is making a new xp install disc and adding the sata drivers to it using nlite: http://www.nliteos.com/nlite.html


    The machine is only used for internet and photos so as cheap as possible really.
    I can probably get hold of a USB floppy. Would that help?
    Can you tell I've never done this before? :oops:

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    maddogb;3545441

    they are diff methods of fitting the heatsink on 478/775 boardsmany … they are diff methods of fitting the heatsink on 478/775 boardsmany boards actually have the ability to emulate ide on the sata channels so floppies aren't actually required unless you are using the sata for raid.usually its just a case of knowing the right settings to change in the bios


    The heat sink and fan are attached with four screws in a square shape from memory.
    I guess you probably need more details than that though?

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    http://i14.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/8b/a2/8d59_1.JPG
    That's what I remember it looking like maddogb.

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    There's one on Ebay for £45 including postage. Item number 110314545588.
    Should I just buy this and save myself all the hassle?

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    Greg;3545560

    There's one on Ebay for £45 including postage. Item number … There's one on Ebay for £45 including postage. Item number 110314545588.Should I just buy this and save myself all the hassle?



    For what you use the machine for I would go for the ebay board, its going to be cheaper than getting a new board & memory.

    Yes, a usb floppy would work ok.
    But if you get the same board you should be able to pop it in and not need the floppy drive, and you shouldn't need to re-install or repair xp :thumbsup::)

    That item ended but this one is the same seller/board: 110316954071

    That would be £46.00 incl del for a s/h board with 30day warrenty
    or...

    ebuyer.com/pro…250
    ebuyer.com/pro…853
    1 gig of mem was £6.00 cheaper, with free 5 day delivery
    I would still also double check the socket type as it not guaranteed by the model number with it not being a standard asus model, I have seen on one occasion FS move the FRU part number ot a diff socket type
    btw any idea what caused the failure and what fault finding has been done?, does the OP know how to do a proper bios reset?

    Original Poster

    Not sure what caused the failure, but my friend said he was using the PC and it locked up completely (screen froze, keyboard and mouse would not respond). When he powered it off and then back on, nothing will display to the monitor since. Also when the PC is powered on now, there are no POST beeps.
    I don't know anything about a proper BIOS reset. I've had the CMOS battery out for an hour.
    Fault finding that has been done includes testing GFX card, HDD, monitor cable and monitor on another PC which all work fine.
    I have to admit £46 for a s/h mobo does seem very expensive when you can get a new one for £35...
    The thing that worries me about fitting a different board is messing around with the SATA drivers.

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    Greg;3564755

    Not sure what caused the failure, but my friend said he was using the PC … Not sure what caused the failure, but my friend said he was using the PC and it locked up completely (screen froze, keyboard and mouse would not respond). When he powered it off and then back on, nothing will display to the monitor since. Also when the PC is powered on now, there are no POST beeps.I don't know anything about a proper BIOS reset. I've had the CMOS battery out for an hour.Fault finding that has been done includes testing GFX card, HDD, monitor cable and monitor on another PC which all work fine.I have to admit £46 for a s/h mobo does seem very expensive when you can get a new one for £35...The thing that worries me about fitting a different board is messing around with the SATA drivers.



    I wouldn't worry about the sata drivers too much, you may not even need them (depending on the board), and its a lot easier than it sounds if you do need them :thumbsup:

    as said b4 sata drivers aren't an issue,
    reason for concern about fault finding was incase you went and bought new kit to find it was a memory or psu fault.
    The battery is only used when no power to kit, modern machines require all power cables from psu to mainboard disconnected before battery is removed/jumpered, leave over night to be sure then remove memory see if that kicks in any beeps!
    there are special testers for psu's, i have 2 diff ones and they aren't expensive but if on a budget see if any local guys will do a test of psu for you takes a min at most.

    Original Poster

    OK I've decided to go down the brand new board route for three reasons:
    1) Over £45 quid for a second hand board with only a 30 day warranty is rediculous
    2) I've read on the Fujitsu Seimens forums of people having exactly the same problem (machine starts up, fan goes into turbo, no display to monitor) and it happening a couple of times with the ASUS board
    3) I think it will be a good learning experience.
    Thanks for your help so far Maddogb and Soupy; I really appreciate it.
    I'll have a look for some compatible boards later today when I've got a bit more time, will post them and see what you think.
    I'll also need some help with the SATA drivers if you don't mind?

    np m8

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    OK I think I'm going to go for 2gb Kingston Value RAM that you recommended
    ebuyer.com/pro…853
    With ]this ASUS Mobo. It's got on board VGA graphics, with a PCI-e slot as well for my mates GFX card.
    What do you think? Will it be a problem replacing ATX with mATX? Will I need to buy some more heat paste for when moving the processor?

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    Greg;3597220

    OK I think I'm going to go for 2gb Kingston Value RAM that you … OK I think I'm going to go for 2gb Kingston Value RAM that you recommendedhttp://www.ebuyer.com/product/148853With ]this ASUS Mobo. It's got on board VGA graphics, with a PCI-e slot as well for my mates GFX card.What do you think? Will it be a problem replacing ATX with mATX? Will I need to buy some more heat paste for when moving the processor?



    Np :thumbsup:
    I've not used that Kingston ram so can't tell you how well it performs.
    But have used both of these alternatives and not had any problem with either of them:
    ebuyer.com/pro…279
    ebuyer.com/pro…710
    If you use either of the above, just make sure the voltage is set to the recommended in the bios.

    Board looks ok, you won't have any problem replacing an ATX with a mATX (it just a bit smaller a board).
    Don't forget to use some motherboard washers when you are screwing the board in, if you haven't already got some.

    Yep, definitely get some good thermal paste, clean the processor and heatsink of the old gunk and don't use too much of the new paste. Then just let it settle in to level out the temperature over a few days.
    Thermal paste: ebuyer.com/pro…410

    Original Poster

    OK guys, I've ordered the Mobo and RAM. Still got a couple of questions:

    If I find the HDD can't be detected, how can I update the SATA drivers?
    What's the best way cleaning the processor and heatsink before applying the new thermal paste.

    Any tips in general before the new Mobo arrives?

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    Greg;3644938

    OK guys, I've ordered the Mobo and RAM. Still got a couple of … OK guys, I've ordered the Mobo and RAM. Still got a couple of questions:If I find the HDD can't be detected, how can I update the SATA drivers?What's the best way cleaning the processor and heatsink before applying the new thermal paste.Any tips in general before the new Mobo arrives?



    Pretty sure that board will detect the hd fine, as its a newer board.

    For cleaning the old thermal paste, I use a lint free cloth & if its extra messy a little bit of isopropanol alcohol, then just use the cloth to polish the surfaces.
    Kitchen towel works ok too.

    Only other tips is to put the processor & heatsink on the board before you put it in the case, just makes life a little easier with some cases, and don't forget the motherboard washers.

    Original Poster

    What if I haven't got a lint free cloth and isopropanol? Can I use a J-cloth and bit of elbow grease?

    Will washers not already be under the exisiting board? I didn't order them seperately...

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    Greg;3654625

    What if I haven't got a lint free cloth and isopropanol? Can I use a … What if I haven't got a lint free cloth and isopropanol? Can I use a J-cloth and bit of elbow grease?Will washers not already be under the exisiting board? I didn't order them seperately...



    Yep, a J-cloth will do, I've used plain 'old kitchen towel in the past, It doesn't usually take much to clean even without isopropanol :thumbsup:

    Washers may be there, but if you have a Maplin near you they sell them: maplin.co.uk/Mod…085

    Original Poster

    Thanks Soupy. Parts have arrived, and I'll be setting them up this afternoon. I'll let you know how I get on.

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    Greg;3666688

    Thanks Soupy. Parts have arrived, and I'll be setting them up this … Thanks Soupy. Parts have arrived, and I'll be setting them up this afternoon. I'll let you know how I get on.



    Np, :thumbsup:

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    New system board in, drivers updated and my mate now has a working computer.

    I had a bit of a problem getting the machine to power up. I had connected the power supply, and I could see the diode on the system board, but nothing happened when I pressed the power button. Finally figured this out after about 30 minutes that I hadn't connected the diodes and power button properly.

    Although the machine is working as it should, and my mate said he could see the performance difference an extra 1gb RAM has given the machine, the fan still seems to be kicked into turbo all the time, even from as soon as you turn the machine on. Any idea what this could be?

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    Greg;3676638

    New system board in, drivers updated and my mate now has a working … New system board in, drivers updated and my mate now has a working computer.I had a bit of a problem getting the machine to power up. I had connected the power supply, and I could see the diode on the system board, but nothing happened when I pressed the power button. Finally figured this out after about 30 minutes that I hadn't connected the diodes and power button properly.Although the machine is working as it should, and my mate said he could see the performance difference an extra 1gb RAM has given the machine, the fan still seems to be kicked into turbo all the time, even from as soon as you turn the machine on. Any idea what this could be?



    Have a look in your BIOS settings, smart fan control enable/disable, I think its Q-fan or something like that.
    While there check the cpu temperature, just for curiosity

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    soupy;3679006

    Have a look in your BIOS settings, smart fan control enable/disable, I … Have a look in your BIOS settings, smart fan control enable/disable, I think its Q-fan or something like that.While there check the cpu temperature, just for curiosity


    OK will do. I'll let you know...

    I appreciate that this thread is almost 10 months old, but currently facing the same problem with an FS Scaleo P and ASUS P5SD1 - FM2/S mobo, I was happy to stumble across this thread.

    Looking at the mobo and memory combo you selected I was wondering whether the installation was straight forward and whether you sussed the turbo fan issue?

    Any help appreciated.

    Cheers.

    potdog;6367964

    I appreciate that this thread is almost 10 months old, but currently … I appreciate that this thread is almost 10 months old, but currently facing the same problem with an FS Scaleo P and ASUS P5SD1 - FM2/S mobo, I was happy to stumble across this thread.Looking at the mobo and memory combo you selected I was wondering whether the installation was straight forward and whether you sussed the turbo fan issue?Any help appreciated.Cheers.



    most modern boards have the quiet fan function enabled by default so this is usually caused by failure to clean the cpu properly causing improper contact with the heatsink, take it off and clean both sides well with meths or similar use a thin layer of thermal grease and try again

    maddogb;6369470

    most modern boards have the quiet fan function enabled by default so this … most modern boards have the quiet fan function enabled by default so this is usually caused by failure to clean the cpu properly causing improper contact with the heatsink, take it off and clean both sides well with meths or similar use a thin layer of thermal grease and try again



    I've not had the problem, just wondered how the previous poster got on.
    Waiting for my parts to arrive and fingers crossed I'll have my desktop back up and running next week
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