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    Replacing a 3-loop ceiling rose with a new light fitting

    This is what my new light fitting looks like. However, after removing the ceiling rose, I have found it to be on a 3-loop circuit (with only 1 earth wire). The new light fitting has come with a loose three connector. Do I need to get a different type of connector instead?

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    Original Poster

    Pictures as follows:-

    http://i60.tinypic.com/15eeo83.jpg[/img]

    http://i58.tinypic.com/2u92ulx.jpg[/img]

    Thank you.

    The blue neutral of your new fitting goes into the same place where the blue wire is shown on the second picture remove old blue lead and replace, same goes for the Live (brown) cable of your new fitting, that just replaces the where the brown wire goes into your ceiling rose. The earth (the one with the green yellow sheath shown on the second picture goes into the brass connection on the ceiling rose (the one just behind the earth wire in the second picture) the earth for your new fitting goes into the same place.

    Dont worry about the live brown connection that looks to be going to a blue wire (right hand side second picture) Theres a brown sleeve on this connection to show that this is the switched live.

    Original Poster

    Here is the old connector and the new connector that came with the light (on the right).

    http://i57.tinypic.com/59wrd.jpg[/img]

    You're one terminal short. So you need another piece of connector, if you haven't got one then using pliers break the brass connector from the old ceiling rose and use this to connect the earth wires.

    yes you could use the block provided for all the cables excluding the earth.

    take the two plain blues and twist the exposed copper bits together first before securing in the connector block - this way you don't have the chance of one coming out later. Same process for the three browns. and finally the same process for the single blue with brown sleeve.

    the connect blue light fitting wire to the double blue, and the brown to the blue with brown sleeve

    you will need another connector to join the two earth wires.

    Then stuff the connector into the plaster board

    EliTom

    Sophiasky

    Pictures as follows:-[/img][/img]Thank you.


    Using the new connector and taking the cables from left to right in the picture.
    Connect the blue wire from your light together with the 2 blue wires.
    Connect the 3 brown wires together.
    Connect the brown from your new light together with the last blue with the brown sleeve.
    Then the earths have to be connected together with another connector.

    elitom

    yes you could use the block provided for all the cables excluding the … yes you could use the block provided for all the cables excluding the earth.take the two plain blues and twist the exposed copper bits together first before securing in the connector block - this way you don't have the chance of one coming out later. Same process for the three browns. and finally the same process for the single blue with brown sleeve.the connect blue light fitting wire to the double blue, and the brown to the blue with brown sleeveyou will need another connector to join the two earth wires.Then stuff the connector into the plaster boardEliTom


    I would remove your comment #5 because if he does that he is going to have problems with other lights not working.

    Original Poster

    Thank you for all of your help, off to buy another connector now - does it matter what colour it is - mine is white, but have seen different coloured ones on-line?

    dereklogan7

    I would remove your comment #5 because if he does that he is going to … I would remove your comment #5 because if he does that he is going to have problems with other lights not working.



    yeah noticed that - not interconnected connections !!

    EliTom

    Sophiasky

    Thank you for all of your help, off to buy another connector now - does … Thank you for all of your help, off to buy another connector now - does it matter what colour it is - mine is white, but have seen different coloured ones on-line?



    nope so long as it is plastic !

    EliTom

    No doesn't matter. Get some insulating tape as well and tape them up.

    Original Poster

    dereklogan7

    No doesn't matter. Get some insulating tape as well and tape them up.



    Bought some yesterday, no problems there. Thank you.

    elitom

    yeah noticed that - not interconnected connections !!EliTom


    Yeah nice one.

    Original Poster

    All done - with your help, the wiring up was not too bad. The trouble I had was trying to fix it to the ceiling plate - there was a lot of wiring, etc, to fit in, however, now all done, once again thank you.

    In future get some wago connectors, they're great for making fast connections of cables, no screw terminals to work loose . You can hide everything above the ceiling and just leave the switched live, return and earth coming down through the ceiling. Never again will people say I put all the blacks and all the reds together and it doesn't work!

    Original Poster

    liamf12

    In future get some wago connectors, they're great for making fast … In future get some wago connectors, they're great for making fast connections of cables, no screw terminals to work loose . You can hide everything above the ceiling and just leave the switched live, return and earth coming down through the ceiling. Never again will people say I put all the blacks and all the reds together and it doesn't work!



    Thank you for your advice. Will look at those if I have need to do something similar in the future.
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