Road rage attack, oaps attacked by 4 lads!!!

Found 17th Jun 2009
hope you feel suitably tough now lads.

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Original Poster

awful

Probably best if i don't comment on this ........ :x

Original Poster

how could you bring yourself as a fit young lad to hit an old woman, IN A GANG OF FOUR also !!

Banned

thats totally shocking, even more so thats its oaps they attacked, but for a start they should not of just driven on, voilence aint the answer but maybe if they stopped right away might not of happened? these people who did it should be locked up for life though

Its a Sl*G motor used by thugs.

It will come around. Act like that and they have, will get stabbed beaten up etc.

Bunch of WAN*ERS.

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gsettle24;5514354

thats totally shocking, even more so thats its oaps they attacked, but … thats totally shocking, even more so thats its oaps they attacked, but for a start they should not of just driven on, voilence aint the answer but maybe if they stopped right away might not of happened? these people who did it should be locked up for life though



mate i have a feeling they only drove on cos they probably saw the faces of who was driving (4 young lads) and it looked grim for them, they will of been frightened :?

kungfu;5514345

how could you bring yourself as a fit young lad to hit an old woman, IN A … how could you bring yourself as a fit young lad to hit an old woman, IN A GANG OF FOUR also !!



Some places women are barely seen as people,

smithyp1;5514334

Probably best if i don't comment on this ........ :x



Know what you mean, me thinks I was thinking the same as you :x

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kungfu;5514378

mate i have a feeling they only drove on cos they probably saw the faces … mate i have a feeling they only drove on cos they probably saw the faces of who was driving (4 young lads) and it looked grim for them, they will of been frightened :?



I suppose but in the first place they shouldnt of just drove on, frightened or not, not trying to defend these mindless shthouse thugs for one min but shouldnt of drove off, should be locked up tho, or brig back death penalty

It's not sad enough that her name is 'Beryl Bell' !

Original Poster

hope these are caught soon, cant bear them to get away with this :-(

"Fearing the reaction of the driver and his passengers"?

They fled the scene? Obviously the other car's driver and passengers actions are wholly unreasonable but I must say I'd be furious if somebody clipped my wing mirror then drove off (fearing my potential reaction is a BS excuse)

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[email protected];5514485

"Fearing the reaction of the driver and his passengers"?They fled the … "Fearing the reaction of the driver and his passengers"?They fled the scene? Obviously the other car's driver and passengers actions are wholly unreasonable but I must say I'd be furious if somebody clipped my wing mirror then drove off (fearing my potential reaction is a BS excuse)



turn it the other way then mate, say you clipped a car full of lads and you saw the instant angry reaction and knew you where in for a kicking if you stopped , be tempted to drive on and report it at a police station? i would :thumbsup:

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[email protected];5514485

"Fearing the reaction of the driver and his passengers"?They fled the … "Fearing the reaction of the driver and his passengers"?They fled the scene? Obviously the other car's driver and passengers actions are wholly unreasonable but I must say I'd be furious if somebody clipped my wing mirror then drove off (fearing my potential reaction is a BS excuse)



exactly what i was trying to say, well put lol

gsettle24;5514420

I suppose but in the first place they shouldnt of just drove on, … I suppose but in the first place they shouldnt of just drove on, frightened or not, not trying to defend these mindless shthouse thugs for one min but shouldnt of drove off



+1

It was stupid and illegal.

gsettle24

should be locked up tho



perhaps. We only have an account from somebody that hit another vehicle then drove off - if it was a young man what would we be saying? This old 'gent' might have got out of his car shouting and carrying a lethal weapon? This account is biased - given all the facts I might well want the old fella locked up for aggressive behaivour and dangerous driving. His license has been taken away, right?

gsettle24

or brig back death penalty



No.

kungfu;5514521

turn it the other way then mate, say you clipped a car full of lads and … turn it the other way then mate, say you clipped a car full of lads and you saw the instant angry reaction and knew you where in for a kicking if you stopped , be tempted to drive on and report it at a police station? i would :thumbsup:



We've done just that!

Remember if you do need to stop for someone in a case like this - to try to stop where there are lots of other people. It's better to hold up a busy road than be attacked on a side road somewhere.

It's shocking that anyone can treat people like this. I hope justice is served!

kungfu;5514521

turn it the other way then mate, say you clipped a car full of lads and … turn it the other way then mate, say you clipped a car full of lads and you saw the instant angry reaction and knew you where in for a kicking if you stopped , be tempted to drive on and report it at a police station? i would :thumbsup:



That's assuming that they were in the right because they're old and came out of the incident worse off.

This might be accurate but it might also be true that the other driver just wanted them to stop and was made very angry by continued poor driving and failure to stop. Anyway, he didn't go to a Police station - he drove off then stopped and involved himself in a confrontation with the people he was 'scared' of. We know nothing of the manner in which he approached the other car or potential weapons he was carrying. I hate the assumption that somebody is in the right because they're old or found themself worse of after a fight.

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[email protected];5514613

That's assuming that they were in the right because they're old and came … That's assuming that they were in the right because they're old and came out of the incident worse off. This might be accurate but i[SIZE="5"]t might also be true that the other driver just wanted them to stop and was made very angry[/SIZE] by continued poor driving and failure to stop. Anyway, he didn't go to a Police station - he drove off then stopped and involved himself in a confrontation with the people he was 'scared' of.



oh right yeah, cheers for putting that in perspective, the beating of two old people by a gang of 4 young lads is now completely acceptable :?

Celticsun;5514398

Know what you mean, me thinks I was thinking the same as you :x



:x me three

Totally pathetic. Let's hope those jackasses carry on and get themselves knifed by their fellow hoods.

kungfu;5514634

oh right yeah, cheers for putting that in perspective, the beating of two … oh right yeah, cheers for putting that in perspective, the beating of two old people by a gang of 4 young lads is now completely acceptable :?



Look - it isn't acceptable but neither is hitting somebody's car and then driving away - both are illegal and we only have this old couple's POV - which may be a very inaccurate record of events.

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[email protected];5515203

Look - it isn't acceptable but neither is hitting somebody's car and then … Look - it isn't acceptable but neither is hitting somebody's car and then driving away - both are illegal and we only have this old couple's POV - which may be a very inaccurate record of events.



Look - im talking about the attack itself, not some stupid wing mirror damage.So your saying there are certain (serious not lala land like the oap might of pulled an uzi) scenarios that this beating is acceptable??? oh lawd this forums got some ridiculous fence sitters, suppose if it was your nan and grandad you would just be chillin with a diet coke in the hospital waiting room ready to say ha told you you should of stopped sooner nan? :w00t:

total scum.

another case for bringing capital punishment.

[email protected];5515203

Look - it isn't acceptable but neither is hitting somebody's car and then … Look - it isn't acceptable but neither is hitting somebody's car and then driving away - both are illegal and we only have this old couple's POV - which may be a very inaccurate record of events.



Maybe but its not worth taking the risk of stopping anymore. I have been in a similar situation. It was the other drivers fault completely (he was well over on my side of the road coming round a bend) but he got out of his car and behaved in a very threatning manner. I was scared witless.

Sorry I dont really mean that I condone not stopping after a minor collision. Its very difficult.

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boothy;5515280

total scum.another case for bringing capital punishment.



nah giles reckons the oaps may have 'angered' them so its prob their fault, stupid old fools eh, being frightened like that by a gang of lads, silly. :thumbsup:

also if your didnt notice.. the collision happened on pollard lane and they stoppped on pollard lane...might of been just driving to a safer place a bit down the road...

kungfu;5515251

Look - im talking about the attack itself, not some stupid wing mirror … Look - im talking about the attack itself, not some stupid wing mirror damage.So your saying there are certain (serious not lala land like the oap might of pulled an uzi) scenarios that this beating is acceptable??? oh lawd this forums got some ridiculous fence sitters, suppose if it was your nan and grandad you would just be chillin with a diet coke in the hospital waiting room ready to say ha told you you should of stopped sooner nan? :w00t:



No - it isn't acceptable - I haven't said for a second that any of this is. I'm just saying we're drawing conclusions without the facts. Also, it doesn't make sense if this old chap wasn't being aggressive...

He clipped a wing mirror, drove away because he was scared then stopped because he was scared? He should have acted properly - if he wasn't aware of what was going on then he shouldn't have a license.

I would be furious if somebody hit my mirror and then drove off - I think we would all be. I happen to be a very non-violent person. Sometimes if you hit a wing mirror of somebody that is aggressive you'll find that fleeing wasn't a good idea.

Why is it any worse that this person was old? Wouldn't it be equally disgusting if it had happened to any of us?

kungfu;5515296

nah giles reckons the oaps may have 'angered' them so its prob their … nah giles reckons the oaps may have 'angered' them so its prob their fault, stupid old fools eh, being frightened like that by a gang of lads, silly. :thumbsup:also if your didnt notice.. the collision happened on pollard lane and they stoppped on pollard lane...might of been just driving to a safer place a bit down the road...



I'm saying that we don't know.

The old man MIGHT have been aggressive. He was scared then not scared?

How long is Pollard Lane? He wasn't moving to a safer place - he said he was scared.

I think that's BS - you don't drive off and that claim that was in fear - particularly when driving off in the first place is a criminal offense.

In conclusion, old people are not innocent because they are old.

The actions of these young men are disgusting.

Fleeing the scene of an accident is illegal and appauling. No excuses.

The media reporting of this is one-sided and will scare old people.

Original Poster

So do you think they would of drove off if when it happened they looked across at the other car and saw 4 girls all smiling and shrugging there shoulders saying never mind lets pull over and swap details, i think you know quite well what sort of hostile response they probably got the instant it happened and they panicked.

LJM;5515286

Maybe but its not worth taking the risk of stopping anymore. I have been … Maybe but its not worth taking the risk of stopping anymore. I have been in a similar situation. It was the other drivers fault completely but he got out of his car and behaved in a very threatning manner. I was scared witless. Sorry I dont really mean that I condone not stopping after a minor collision. Its very difficult.



This might have been how the old man responded. Perhaps he tried to blame the other driver?

kungfu;5515394

So do you think they would of drove off if when it happened they looked … So do you think they would of drove off if when it happened they looked across at the other car and saw 4 girls all smiling and shrugging there shoulders saying never mind lets pull over and swap details, i think you know quite well what sort of hostile response they probably got the instant it happened and they panicked.



How do we know they were even aware of the fact they'd done it? I've seen old people doing awful things and carrying on...

The attack was inexcusable and cowardly but if these 4 lads were arrested by the police and resisted arrest and were caught on camera doing so, I wonder how many of you would be saying the police were violent scum......

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[email protected];5515387

The media reporting of this is one-sided and will scare old people.


oh mate you need to get real fgs!! ok so wheres the 4 lads to explain that they where simply defending themselves from this vicious old man??? they would surely come forward to explain it was vital self defence they acted in???

[email protected];5515421

How do we know they were even aware of the fact they'd done it? I've seen … How do we know they were even aware of the fact they'd done it? I've seen old people doing awful things and carrying on...



why is it you are completely missing the point??? this is a disgusting attack on two oaps!! and YES it matters that they are oaps to me,as they are frailer and weaker than young people

I'm saying that everyone is painting their own picture of what happened based on a biased report. We don't know - the old man COULD have pulled out a machine gun - do you think he'd have told the BBC news?

kungfu;5515425

oh mate you need to get real fgs!! ok so wheres the 4 lads to explain … oh mate you need to get real fgs!! ok so wheres the 4 lads to explain that they where simply defending themselves from this vicious old man??? they would surely come forward to explain it was vital self defence they acted in???



I wouldn't if I'd already been tarred with the brush of this report.

Again, I'm not excusing their behaviour I'm saying it's wrong for us to decide what happened based on this report.

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[email protected];5515440

I'm saying that everyone is painting their own picture of what happened … I'm saying that everyone is painting their own picture of what happened based on a biased report. We don't know - the old man COULD have pulled out a machine gun - do you think he'd have told the BBC news?



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kungfu;5515425

why is it you are completely missing the point??? this is a disgusting … why is it you are completely missing the point??? this is a disgusting attack on two oaps!! and YES it matters that they are oaps to me,as they are frailer and weaker than young people



To me they're people. People are as important as each other. There are aggressive, horrible old men and women and they don't deserve better treatment because they are old. I've been pushed out of the way in queues, had old women roll backwards into my car... etc etc...

Don't assume that this person, because they were old, put their hands up, apologised and offered his insurance details - you don't know what happened.

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[email protected];5515503

To me they're people. People are as important as each other. There are … To me they're people. People are as important as each other. There are aggressive, horrible old men and women and they don't deserve better treatment because they are old. I've been pushed out of the way in queues, had old women roll backwards into my car... etc etc... Don't assume that this person, because they were old, put their hands up, apologised and offered his insurance details - you don't know what happened.



i give up... once again point missed , dunno what youre trying to prove mate, if you think these two oaps deserve what they got then just leave the thread and have your little secret thoughts on your own eh


Please for one second imagine its your grandparents and they did not have a machine gun in the car (probably true eh)

[email protected];5515503

To me they're people. People are as important as each other. There are … To me they're people. People are as important as each other. There are aggressive, horrible old men and women and they don't deserve better treatment because they are old. I've been pushed out of the way in queues, had old women roll backwards into my car... etc etc... Don't assume that this person, because they were old, put their hands up, apologised and offered his insurance details - you don't know what happened.



And then they beat his wife who got out to get four young, fitter and stronger men off her husband.

Yes, very well deserved. Heroes in fact.

Old people suck, in fact people of all ages suck. Doesn't make it any better though.
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