Robbed on ebay someone sent different item back and claiming refund.

Sister sold a tv on ebay the model no is FH-19LHDC brand new boxed and it comes with a built on dvd player (checked contents before sending off) got the tv free with a phone contract.

Ebay member called to say its advertised wrong as it didnt come with a dvd player built on. Sent it back and ive checked contents. Hes sent model no FH-19LHD back its EXACT SAME but without dvd player.

What ive noticed is the screws have all been tampered with as they are black screws with scratched silver in the middle as if a screw driver had been used on it. Also the front casing STICKS with double sided tape to the inside of the tv but its been ripped as if the tv had been opened leaving a gap around the screen edge (can fit fingers down it).

I decided to open it up and upon doing this ive now noticed damaged inside a few plastic bits snapped off and again screws been used and not even tight in the chassis. Further inspection i can see what from outside looks like a removable blanking plate where the dvd player should go but inide its actually not a blanking plate its part of the casing just looks like a blanking plate.

So the buyer thought he could nick the dvd player but infact you cant so hes swapped the tvs around.

What should we do now? i fear the worst on this one.

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how did u pay??

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[COLOR="Sienna"]got an address?

I'll slash him up if you want. No charge for HUKD users.[/COLOR]

Did you take pictures of the item before you sent it?

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i hate it when ppl rip u off, just no need 4 it

contact police

Check advice on EBAY re fraud cases.

Advise the purchaser of your findings and demand your TV is returned forthwith as you have their address ... or you will notify ebay / paypal / police

Then.... notify ebay / paypal / police in any event, as it no doubt isnt the first nor last time someone will try such a scam !

Good Luck

Get his adress n go bang him out.

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get round knee cap the the twocer

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winifer;7085007

Did you take pictures of the item before you sent it?



Nope thats her mistake already told her this. I suppose if he wants to lie to rob we can also steal pictures from somewhere else. But tbh i think shes willing to refund him to get it over with. Although i urged her not to, im abit more stubburn than her and i cannot stand a theif.

He paid via paypal

dont refund him-simple as-he is a thief and deserves nothing-end of story

I'd send them a turd in the box and request a refund for postage.

Contact Ebay and see what they suggest.

Without pictures its there word against yours, more than likely sadly paypal with rule in there favour. Guess its touch and go which way a paypal claim would go, which seems the only likely option.

Make sure you tell paypal of all the damage etc that has appeared on a brand new tv, and hopefully they should find in your favour thought

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J4GG4;7085045

Nope thats her mistake already told her this. I suppose if he wants to … Nope thats her mistake already told her this. I suppose if he wants to lie to rob we can also steal pictures from somewhere else. But tbh i think shes willing to refund him to get it over with. Although i urged her not to, im abit more stubburn than her and i cannot stand a theif.He paid via paypal



[FONT="Century Gothic"][SIZE="5"][COLOR="DarkSlateBlue"]For the sake of others, please don't refund.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

You said.... Got free with phone ......

You should be able to obtain serial number etc from your contract.... inform police etc... they willl see you are genuine from your "detail in the detail" and hopefully act promptly to get to their address to recover your item.. .unless theyre wise enought to have got rid already... but it sounds like they already owned one and was getting a free replacement out of you ?

Dont refund them matey

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yh diffently make a complaint to pay pal as the item is not as described and is false advertisemnt they should find in your favor, good luck anyway x x x

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jadeemson;7085171

yh diffently make a complaint to pay pal as the item is not as described … yh diffently make a complaint to pay pal as the item is not as described and is false advertisemnt they should find in your favor, good luck anyway x x x



[FONT="Century Gothic"][SIZE="2"][COLOR="DarkOliveGreen"]someone didn't bother to read the thread........[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

vibeone;7085209

[FONT="Century Gothic"][SIZE="2"][COLOR="DarkOliveGreen"]someone didn't … [FONT="Century Gothic"][SIZE="2"][COLOR="DarkOliveGreen"]someone didn't bother to read the thread........[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]



Newbie for you :whistling:

did you not get an invoice with the serial number on when you first received the item?
Do any of the pictures you used on ebay display something different to the TV you have received back?

what's his user i.d, i imagine a couple of polite emails from us would help

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Thanks for the comments, rep on way.

Im going to call the guy myself tomorrow and ask him kindly to send our tv back and we'll leave it at that or we will take the matter further. But i will get as much details as i possibly can.

J4GG4;7085246

Thanks for the comments, rep on way.Im going to call the guy myself … Thanks for the comments, rep on way.Im going to call the guy myself tomorrow and ask him kindly to send our tv back and we'll leave it at that or we will take the matter further. But i will get as much details as i possibly can.



Cool, good luck with it anyway mate

threaten the person abit, that should work.. ;-)

whatever u do don't mention paypal as they will always take the buyers side no matter what..

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J4GG4;7085246

Thanks for the comments, rep on way.Im going to call the guy myself … Thanks for the comments, rep on way.Im going to call the guy myself tomorrow and ask him kindly to send our tv back and we'll leave it at that or we will take the matter further. But i will get as much details as i possibly can.



[FONT="Book Antiqua"][SIZE="3"][COLOR="Navy"]Make sure you

1) say the police have already been informed
2) make it clear you have the serial number of the original TV
3) make it clear that if the other TV (ie: the one he still has) has been damaged or opened in any way, you will want a full payment or the police will take it further

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you need to do all the research you can on the person

I ain't an expert, but if you contact ebay/paypal and get your view across before his, then they may favour you, but do not let him win at all!

I effing hate eBay! full of scum!

and good luck matey, I really hope it works out for you

i sold a working xbox360 to someone who then said it was faulty and sent it back and i was going to refund until i noticed it wasnt my xbox at all as i took pics,logged everything so in the end he didnt win.moral of the story,always fear the worst when selling and log everything in detail.great at sending a big fu to the wannabe thief:p

lesson learnt really, take a picture of the item sent and make sure u record down everything. Unless u got proof of the details then its ure word against theirs.

i am assuming you took a picture to advertise the product on ebay? Does this have a picture of the dvd player?

DO NOT REFUND the item, and tell ebay and paypal about it. U just gonna have to fight this in the event it goes to paypal. Good luck

vibeone;7085287

[FONT="Book Antiqua"][SIZE="3"][COLOR="Navy"]Make sure you1) say the … [FONT="Book Antiqua"][SIZE="3"][COLOR="Navy"]Make sure you1) say the police have already been informed2) make it clear you have the serial number of the original TV3) make it clear that if the other TV (ie: the one he still has) has been damaged or opened in any way, you will want a full payment or the police will take it further[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]




Good advice under normal circs...
but

TBH, this is likely to encourage them to get rid... if not already done so....

I would personally play it a bit niaive when contacting them until they agree to let you have your TV back,
( hopefully get it back ! )

& as i said earlier, TELL EBAY, POLICE etc ... so that they can "commence enquiries" asap to get ur TV back.... coz I'm sure this won't be their first / last time.. .& its likely to be the best way of gettin ur TV

does the box have a serial number on? contradicting numbers would mean different item so u could take pictures of those to help your case.

don't refund at all, you should never let them get away with it even if you can't be bothered to fight it.

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this is crucial.........

did you sign for it when the tv was returned?

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tinkerbell28;7085428

Quite simple really, you have a pic of what you listed with dvd player … Quite simple really, you have a pic of what you listed with dvd player and a pic of what was returned without, with no tranist damage but man handeled. Also where you purchased from pop to show what the item was, boxes with serials etc.You MUST report it to the police for a crim ref asap you will get one and forward this to pp and phone, phone, phone them until resloved.



good advice - get the crime ref number and make sure paypal have it!

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Very interesting read!

Im going to be busy repping tonight!

I think i will go down the route of calling the police then ebay then paypal, then the guy.

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mug51;7085403

does the box have a serial number on? contradicting numbers would mean … does the box have a serial number on? contradicting numbers would mean different item so u could take pictures of those to help your case.don't refund at all, you should never let them get away with it even if you can't be bothered to fight it.



Ive searched the whole box and no it doesnt, however i need to get my sis to dig out the original invoice in hope the serial number is on there.

Bummer , hope you get it sorted

Sorry to hear about your sister's misfortune. I think you've been given the best advice RE: phoning police and informing seller that you will take matter further.

It might be of some interest to you that I once got scammed for an Xbox game on eBay. I paid £12 via bank transfer but never received anything. After I contacted the seller they told me they didn't have the game and told me to do one. I contacted my local police and they personally visited me to take a statement and evidence. They investigated the matter and one phonecall later from the police, the matter was sorted amicably. I received a cheque for the £12 a couple days later. Happy days!

I have nothing but praise for my local police, makes a change from the Avon and Somerset Constabulary who've been nothing but useless when dealing with them for much more serious crimes.

I know this is neither here nor there,but did you tell the buyer to return it or did they do that off their own back ?

The police wont help you, they will be too busy catching people doing 71mph on the motorway.

You have thier address, just go down there with a few of your mates & "kindly" demand yout TV back & also keep his money !

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deb8z;7087408

I know this is neither here nor there,but did you tell the buyer to … I know this is neither here nor there,but did you tell the buyer to return it or did they do that off their own back ?



She told them to return it according to him

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ChrisUK;7087549

The police wont help you, they will be too busy catching people doing … The police wont help you, they will be too busy catching people doing 71mph on the motorway.You have thier address, just go down there with a few of your mates & "kindly" demand yout TV back & also keep his money !



Im south of england he is north of scotland.

Gone to the police and they advised to call him to sort it as they cant do anything as its not a police matter. I called the guy and he assured me its not been swapped or anything, think hes about 60 or 65 but the tv didnt get delivered to him it got delivered to his sons girlfriends work place so it went through his sons hands first. Hes claiming he recieved the tv and unpakced it and noticed it didnt have a dvd player so sent it back.

Tbh i think my sis has messed up big time in every step of the way with regards to backing herself up. Too trustworthy.
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