Royal Mail hires 30,000 workers to crush strike

guardian.co.uk/uk/…mps

Wonder how all the RM workers will react to that?

108 Comments

Original Poster

guardian.co.uk/uk/…mps

Wonder how all the RM workers will react to that?

Its funny how the CWU is still complaining as it seems their idea of "talks" is having RM cave in to all their demands and if they dont RM are the criminals and the uncaring ones etc.

Banned

they should just sack these whiny employees and hire some foreigners not only will they do the job efficiently theyll appreciate what they get

cant imagine that these extra workers will be out on the streets delivering mail.

Banned

Good , Sack All Those ****** That Do This Every Xmas To Ruin Peoples Lives..

They Got It Sweet At Rm... Tell Them To Jog On As There Are Millions Of People That Are Willing To Work For Less Money And More Hours Then These Jokers.. ... Lazy Sh1ts Get Me Fuming

kapows;6607459

they should just sack these whiny employees and hire some foreigners not … they should just sack these whiny employees and hire some foreigners not only will they do the job efficiently theyll appreciate what they get



zzzzzz is it me or does someone quote this evertime there is a royal mail thread..nice one:thumbsup:

Original Poster

massmail666;6607401





"Each police force is assessing and reviewing the implications for public disorder that might arise from industrial action. An apocalyptic spokesman said: "It is important that we keep the public safe as well as always preserving the right to protest."

Jeezuz.....

Banned

masterruckus;6607481

zzzzzz is it me or does someone quote this evertime there is a royal mail … zzzzzz is it me or does someone quote this evertime there is a royal mail thread..nice one:thumbsup:



lol i think its you...or maybe not cos this is the first time ive commented or even viewed a royal mail thread lol

Finally a company showing the middle finger to whingebag employees, you don't like your job go get different one. FFS all you got to do is push the right letter through the right door.

bring in scab workers so there will be widespread disorder...another great move by royal mail

Banned

boothy;6607545

bring in scab workers so there will be widespread disorder...another … bring in scab workers so there will be widespread disorder...another great move by royal mail



what ever they are , its better then the monkies they use now a days..

they cant even put 2 and 2 together to put the right letter in the correct door?!?!?!?


idiots !!!:?

kapows;6607459

they should just sack these whiny employees and hire some foreigners not … they should just sack these whiny employees and hire some foreigners not only will they do the job efficiently theyll appreciate what they get



I'm not a RM employee or a supporter of their action, but i think you will find theres 2 sides to every story.
Im sure (if u do even work) you wouldnt lie down and take anything your bosses threw at you no matter how unreasonable?

You're obviously foreign yourself, coming out with with crap like that. :roll:

Banned

for those that cant be arsed to click the link:


Royal Mail is heading for a bitter confrontation with postal workers after announcing plans to recruit an army of 30,000 temporary staff in an attempt to crush the national strike that starts this week.

In a move that stunned union leaders and raised tensions between management and workers to new levels, Royal Mail said it had ordered the biggest recruitment drive in its history "to help keep the mail moving during the strikes called by the Communication Workers Union (CWU)". Sources inside the CWU, which has called national strikes for Thursday and Friday, questioned whether the move was legal and suggested that it could be challenged in the courts.

As householders and businesses braced themselves for massive disruption, business secretary Lord Mandelson appeared to give his backing, saying he was "beyond anger" with the union for obstructing change and modernisation.

"This is a matter of life and death for the future of the Royal Mail," Mandelson told the Observer. "This national strike will drive away yet further customers and further business, possibly never to return to the Royal Mail."

Fears are now growing that the strikes could unleash some of the worst industrial strife since the miners' strike of 1984-85 with the focus being on possible violence at picket lines.

The Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo) said that it was closely monitoring the situation and had issued guidance to forces on dealing with large-scale strike action.

Each police force is assessing and reviewing the implications for public disorder that might arise from industrial action. An Acpo spokesman said: "It is important that we keep the public safe as well as always preserving the right to protest."

On Thursday CWU workers at mail distribution centres across the country will come out on strike. Royal Mail insists there will still be collections and deliveries. On Friday, however, those who actually collect letters and parcels from postboxes and deliver them will strike, meaning there were will be no service to households and businesses across much of the country. Royal Mail is also suspending its "next-day delivery" guarantee, under which customers pay extra to ensure letters and parcels arrive before 1pm on the next working day.

The company normally employs an additional 15,000 staff in the run-up to Christmas. But tonight it said that it had decided to double that number "to help offset the impact on customers of the CWU's unjustified and irresponsible strikes".

Those employed on temporary contracts were not being brought in "to do our postmen's work when they are out on strike, but to make sure that we have people to help clear any backlogs between strikes, as well as to help, as happens every year, with the seasonal build-up of mail in the run-up to Christmas". It added that the move was "fully in line with all employment law".

Royal Mail group chief executive Adam Crozier said: "We are continuing to urge the union to halt its appalling and unjustified attack on customers. At the same time, we are absolutely determined to do everything we can to minimise delays to customers' mail.

"Every year, Royal Mail recruits thousands of additional, fully vetted, temporary staff as part of the operation that successfully delivers the Christmas mail. This year we'll have twice as many people on board, and we'll have them in place much earlier in the autumn."

A CWU spokesperson said: "We're disappointed that Royal Mail appears to be more interested in sidelining the views and concerns of its staff than reaching an agreement to bring this dispute to an end.

"Instead of spending vast sums of money on untrained temporary workers we urge the Royal Mail to engage with talks to reach an agreement to get the permanent staff back to work. Royal Mail is planning for failure here instead of addressing the concerns of its staff. Postal workers deserve more than this dismissive attitude. CWU remains available for talks to avoid a strike."

The union maintains that Royal Mail has tried to force through modernisation and changes to working patterns without proper consultation. The strikes are expected to cause huge problems for both business and domestic customers. There are particular concerns within the NHS that letters due to go out shortly to people regarded as at risk from swine flu, and who would need vaccination, could be held up.

In an interview with the Observer, Dave Ward, deputy general secretary of the CWU, also claimed that Royal Mail was planning to scrap 60,000 jobs in the next two years.

Postal workers were in a "battle over the future of the industry... It [the dispute] is on a scale which comes along only every 50 or 60 years," he warned.

He added that state-owned Royal Mail was the last major industry in Britain not to have undergone a radical restructuring. But he stressed that the CWU was keen to find a solution to the dispute. Ward accepted "there is going to be pain along the way" for its members, adding: "We are determined but we desperately want to find a solution. I would not suggest this [dispute] is like the miners' strike in terms of bitterness."

Royal Mail admitted that modernisation plans would inevitably lead to job losses but insisted this weekend that it would abide by its policy of implementing only voluntary, and not compulsory, redundancies. It rejected the CWU's estimate of 60,000 jobs lost, but could not specify how many would be lost.

Larry Whitty, a former general secretary of the Labour party and now chairman of Consumer Focus, said: "If Royal Mail and the CWU are unable to engage in a positive manner, then it seems appropriate to us that mediation is a necessity and not a luxury."

Banned

skamma;6607570

what ever they are , its better then the monkies they use now a … what ever they are , its better then the monkies they use now a days..they cant even put 2 and 2 together to put the right letter in the correct door?!?!?!?idiots !!!:?



My postie is pretty darn good thanks.

Not sure if this type of escalation is a good move. I don't think a company telling it's entire workforce that it's replaceable is a good idea.

totally disagree with the strike-its time for the union to wake up and smell the coffee. Rm workers are already getting bonuses for "turning up to work on time","not going on the sick"-its a total joke tbh-they are just handing business to competitors when the internet/email has removed the need for many of their services.

Millions of "lost" items every year. They will of course be back in time for the christmas rush-cant pass up the chance of all their christmas tips and a few "undelivered parcels" to give their kids from santa:whistling:

Banned

FilthAndFurry;6607641

My postie is pretty darn good thanks.Not sure if this type of escalation … My postie is pretty darn good thanks.Not sure if this type of escalation is a good move. I don't think a company telling it's entire workforce that it's replaceable is a good idea.



I think it would help to be honest.. make them realise they are nothing special...

Banned

tinkerbell28;6607671

I agree by trade I am a paediatric nurse I could strike but never would … I agree by trade I am a paediatric nurse I could strike but never would and hubby is Armed forces so can't but we are being shafted too, the whole public sector is suffering they need to get real IMO.



+1 im with you totally...

££ JASE ££;6607585

I'm not a RM employee or a supporter of their action, but i think you … I'm not a RM employee or a supporter of their action, but i think you will find theres 2 sides to every story.Im sure (if u do even work) you wouldnt lie down and take anything your bosses threw at you no matter how unreasonable?You're obviously foreign yourself, coming out with with crap like that. :roll:


Agreed, I wonder how the other posters would feel in the posties possition, only have to put letters through ect ect. Maybe try getting up at 4 or whatever godforsaken hour they get up. Walk a mile in the other mans shoe's :x

Banned

happy donkey;6607682

Agreed, I wonder how the other posters would feel in the posties … Agreed, I wonder how the other posters would feel in the posties possition, only have to put letters through ect ect. Maybe try getting up at 4 or whatever godforsaken hour they get up. Walk a mile in the other mans shoe's :x



finish work at 2 pm :roll:

terrible job!?!??! :roll::roll:

happy donkey;6607682

Agreed, I wonder how the other posters would feel in the posties … Agreed, I wonder how the other posters would feel in the posties possition, only have to put letters through ect ect. Maybe try getting up at 4 or whatever godforsaken hour they get up. Walk a mile in the other mans shoe's :x



whats getting up at 4 got to do with it?? do you see supermarket nighshift workers getting paid the wages the posties get? its a condition of the job which they accepted when they signed their contracts.

Banned

im sitting here on shift (highways control) with an ex RM employee ... he has said basically this whole 'strike is about ghost overtime..
basically they now have to actually work the hours they get paid for .. im getting more and more angry by the minute.. im gonna have to boycot this thread...

see you all in the next one!! :-)

barky;6607706

whats getting up at 4 got to do with it?? do you see supermarket … whats getting up at 4 got to do with it?? do you see supermarket nighshift workers getting paid the wages the posties get? its a condition of the job which they accepted when they signed their contracts.


1000 i thank u.
Your point being ?

Never had a problem with post but i dont believe in striking.,I have always been self employed and i believe if your not happy with your job go find another,If you are important enough they will do what it takes to keep you, if your not the bye bye,

tinkerbell28;6607759

OK, so how about the police, nhs, armed forces, teachers ALL are facing … OK, so how about the police, nhs, armed forces, teachers ALL are facing cutbacks, harder working conditions, and redundancies as the govt does not have the money, cutbacks and reform is needed, simples. I would rather my hubby was a postie tbh at the moment and I would rather the hours when I return to work but I love my job and studied hard for it.ALL public sector factions need to reform to be more efficient, save cash, and loose deadwood IMO, posties are speeding up their own demise.


All the above should get large rises, we sack the overpaid MPs and crucify the bankers. I dont say I support them just I dont support ripping services appart. Nobody has asked how much they could save by sacking the high paid management employed to do a hatchet job. I'm old enough to remember the miners strikes with Scargil saying they would close all the coal mines, Oh !! no we wont they said. Try asking youngsters where coal comes from now.

barky;6607656

totally disagree with the strike-its time for the union to wake up and … totally disagree with the strike-its time for the union to wake up and smell the coffee. Rm workers are already getting bonuses for "turning up to work on time","not going on the sick"-its a total joke tbh-they are just handing business to competitors when the internet/email has removed the need for many of their services.Millions of "lost" items every year. They will of course be back in time for the christmas rush-cant pass up the chance of all their christmas tips and a few "undelivered parcels" to give their kids from santa:whistling:



not sure which department in RM your work for but we have never in 23 years of working for RM got the above mentioned bonus,s and has for the missing mail could you prove the quoted figures its never the senders fault is it? :whistling:

well id just like to say on behalf of myself my husband and all our colleagues thanks for all your support! im pretty sure when your boss tells you on monday at the last moment that you have to do unpaid overtime just before your shift ends you,ll be really pleased and embrace his decision :x
btw those so called vetted casual staff are the ones with light fingers

easilyconfused;6608102

well id just like to say on behalf of myself my husband and all our … well id just like to say on behalf of myself my husband and all our colleagues thanks for all your support! im pretty sure when your boss tells you on monday at the last moment that you have to do unpaid overtime just before your shift ends you,ll be really pleased and embrace his decision :xbtw those so called vetted casual staff are the ones with light fingers



Just like the hundreds of thousands of people who do it every day I have done it and missed a last bus by as little as minutes and had to do a hours or so walk home, sucks but it was only way I would keep my job.

Banned

easilyconfused;6608102

well id just like to say on behalf of myself my husband and all our … well id just like to say on behalf of myself my husband and all our colleagues thanks for all your support! im pretty sure when your boss tells you on monday at the last moment that you have to do unpaid overtime just before your shift ends you,ll be really pleased and embrace his decision :xbtw those so called vetted casual staff are the ones with light fingers



erm, Ive stayed in the office till 12am and am in at 7am when my projects are coming to an end, and I work weekends some times too if things go wrong. and we dont get overtime.

why do i not moan? cause i knew what i was getting into when i signed up to my job.

suck it up and do your job or GTFO and become self employed or something.

bykergrove;6608312

erm, Ive stayed in the office till 12am and am in at 7am when my projects … erm, Ive stayed in the office till 12am and am in at 7am when my projects are coming to an end, and I work weekends some times too if things go wrong. and we dont get overtime.why do i not moan? cause i knew what i was getting into when i signed up to my job.suck it up and do your job or GTFO and become self employed or something.



+1

With me the latest was 2am getting a quote out. When the client says "Jump" you ask how high on the way up.

Banned

bykergrove;6608312

erm, Ive stayed in the office till 12am and am in at 7am when my projects … erm, Ive stayed in the office till 12am and am in at 7am when my projects are coming to an end, and I work weekends some times too if things go wrong. and we dont get overtime.why do i not moan? cause i knew what i was getting into when i signed up to my job.suck it up and do your job or GTFO and become self employed or something.



Different types of work come with different types of expectations.

If I were doing shift work in an environment such as the post office, I wouldn't expect to work unpaid longer than I was required to.

Banned

Some_Bloke;6608372

+1With me the latest was 2am getting a quote out. When the client says … +1With me the latest was 2am getting a quote out. When the client says "Jump" you ask how high on the way up.



And I've got stories of working at ungodly hours, surviving only on caffeine and rushing to meet deadlines - but I also count myself as lucky because I do something I love, rather than working in a call centre or something similar.

But I have worked in those types of jobs before and I was out of there as soon as my shift finished.

Banned

FilthAndFurry;6608382

Different types of work come with different types of expectations.If I … Different types of work come with different types of expectations.If I were doing shift work in an environment such as the post office, I wouldn't expect to work unpaid longer than I was required to.



if a postie thinks they are too good to work unpaid then maybe they should have got a better education and got a better job.

some of my friends have engineering/economics/geography degrees from great universities and they are out of a job and wouldn't mind working as a postie to just make ends meet.

so maybe posties should see how good they have it and suck it up when they get asked to do some unpaid overtime as they are not the only ones.

happy donkey;6607682

Agreed, I wonder how the other posters would feel in the posties … Agreed, I wonder how the other posters would feel in the posties possition, only have to put letters through ect ect. Maybe try getting up at 4 or whatever godforsaken hour they get up. Walk a mile in the other mans shoe's :x



dont like the hours, dont do the job, SIMPLES! lazy gits! there are so many people out there looking for work and cant get it and these workers are complaining coz they have 'too much' work! I'd love their job! finishing at 2pm and being well paid must be sooooo hard!

theyve actually had it easy for so long.
they got paid by the shift even if they used to finish early they got paid the same amount
they now have to work as a team so if ones sick they have to cover for him and get the job done

I'm sure all those woolies staff would happily take the posties position

Problem is, where do you find an extra 15,000 staff to do this job at short notice (i mean properly)
We'll end up with a load of sticky-fingered half-wits, and who knows, maybe we'll end up wishing our mail was stuck in the sorting office..... instead of in some thieving scroats back pack as he leaves 'work'.

Bad times ahead me thinks whatever happens

skamma;6607690

finish work at 2 pm :roll:terrible job!?!??! :roll::roll:



So ten hours is great? lmao

lprangle21;6608478

dont like the hours, dont do the job, SIMPLES! lazy gits! there are so … dont like the hours, dont do the job, SIMPLES! lazy gits! there are so many people out there looking for work and cant get it and these workers are complaining coz they have 'too much' work! I'd love their job! finishing at 2pm and being well paid must be sooooo hard!



why are you all not doing that job then if its so easy?? hmmmm :whistling:

Emzy81;6608792

why are you all not doing that job then if its so easy?? hmmmm :whistling:



Cos we havent applied for it simples.

tinkerbell28;6608146

No worries I used to do it in a heartbeat when I was concerned for the … No worries I used to do it in a heartbeat when I was concerned for the handover of a sick child, it happens to my hubby daily on deployment, I sit here for hours trying to speak to him:whistling:



USED to ?? :w00t:
Post a comment
Avatar
@
    Text
    Top Discussions
    1. Just heard this...2 ★★★★★★★★★★★★★★ congrats to all on 392k ★★★★★★★★★★★★★★7763880
    2. (heads up) Mini SNES price finally dropped on Amazon pre orders56
    3. What an absolute disgrace2147
    4. Xbox One X pre order £449.99 @ Game (out 9th Nov)2446

    See more discussions