*Rumor* Xbox to make multiplayer free!

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Posted 18th Jul 2020
Take this with a massive pinch of salt, but the latest buzz on the net is Xbox is set announce they are making Xbox live free! Kinda see where the rumor comes from as they have other revenue streams such as Gamepass. What do you think?
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Can’t see that they would lose an absolute fortune. Hope it’s true though
They have stopped selling 12 months gold.
Hopefully this means multiplayer could go free, but it could mean we'll have to buy Ultimate going forward.

I wouldn't be surprised if multiplayer does goes free. Or if people's existing Gold gets converted to Ultimate. It would fit in with their pro-consumer marketing.
Edited by: "somaKing" 18th Jul
I could see this being true. PS seem to be winning in the anticipation game at the moment so offering free multiplayer would definitely make people take notice!
I can kinda see it as well, especially with Gamepass being available on PC and you can play with your friends without an Xbox live sub
They’ll just want everyone to do game pass Ultimate for online I reckon. No way could they make online free as it makes them money. One can hope it’ll be free though.
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Hope so I might use my Xbox again it's collecting dust whilst I'm enjoying my PC without any of that ****
darkfrost118/07/2020 11:03

They’ll just want everyone to do game pass Ultimate for online I reckon. N …They’ll just want everyone to do game pass Ultimate for online I reckon. No way could they make online free as it makes them money. One can hope it’ll be free though.


This.

They have pretty much managed to get everyone invested into the Xbox brand with £1 Game Pass upgrades and they will just add all-you-can-eat live and X Cloud access into the equation. Everyone will feel that invested they will feel compelled to renew their Game Pass (or whatever they choose to call it) Subscription - only in the future there is absolutely no way in the world they will make a loss with £1 subs, it will cost everyone a lot more to renew. In the absence of any real quality 1st party games / Series X exclusives not available on any other platform, or high end first party studios, it’s really smart marketing on Microsoft’s part.
Edited by: "joeydeacon" 18th Jul
I have 4 separate years of Gold still to redeem. I am GPU at the moment. If they offer 1:1 conversion I would be happy.
joeydeacon18/07/2020 20:58

In the absence of any real quality 1st party games / Series X exclusives …In the absence of any real quality 1st party games / Series X exclusives not available on any other platform, or high end first party studios, it’s really smart marketing on Microsoft’s part.


Joey prepare to eat those words after the Xbox Games Showcase this coming Thursday!
Yoshimitsu18/07/2020 22:48

Joey prepare to eat those words after the Xbox Games Showcase this coming …Joey prepare to eat those words after the Xbox Games Showcase this coming Thursday!


I own both a PS4 and Xbox along with a multitude of other systems, not really into one platform vs the other but my PlayStation gets used on a regular basis, the Xbox less so and that has been the case for some time. It’s all subjective of course and everyone will have their own preferences, but it’s going to need some seismic shift in their strategy for me to buy into the whole Series X thing. It’s all about the games and for me personally they just don’t have them, they haven’t for a while, I see no reason to buy the Series X at this point.

Don’t get me wrong I see where they are going with their brand and who their target market is, I accept I don’t fall within that.
Edited by: "joeydeacon" 18th Jul
joeydeacon18/07/2020 23:01

I own both a PS4 and Xbox along with a multitude of other systems, not …I own both a PS4 and Xbox along with a multitude of other systems, not really into one platform vs the other but my PlayStation gets used on a regular basis, the Xbox less so and that has been the case for some time. It’s all subjective of course and everyone will have their own preferences, but it’s going to need some seismic shift in their strategy for me to buy into the whole Series X thing. It’s all about the games and for me personally they just don’t have them, they haven’t for a while, I see no reason to buy the Series X at this point. Don’t get me wrong I see where they are going with their brand and who their target market is, I accept I don’t fall within that.


This year already from Xbox we have seen games like Bleeding Edge, Gears Tactics, Minecraft Dungeons, Ori and the Will of the Wisps and Wasteland Remastered.

Also third-party exclusives like Bless Unleashed, Ooblets, Phantasy Star Online 2, Session, Space Engineers, Waking and We Were Here Together.

Upcoming games by Xbox like Age of Empires IV, Battletoads, CrossfireX, Everwild, Grounded, Halo Infinite, Microsoft Flight Simulator, Project: Mara, Psychonauts 2, Senua's Saga: Hellblade II, Tell Me Why and Wasteland 3.

Upcoming third-party exclusives like 12 Minutes, Bartlow's Dread Machine, Bright Memory Infinite, Call of the Sea, Drake Hollow, KartRider: Drift, Last Stop, Orphan of the Machine, Pisces, Second Extinction, Scorn, The Artful Escape, The Ascent, The Falconeer, The Medium and Tunic.

They have a bigger output and variety of games than both Sony and Nintendo combined. I don't understand how you are not part of their target market
Yoshimitsu18/07/2020 23:17

This year already from Xbox we have seen games like Bleeding Edge, Gears …This year already from Xbox we have seen games like Bleeding Edge, Gears Tactics, Minecraft Dungeons, Ori and the Will of the Wisps and Wasteland Remastered.Also third-party exclusives like Bless Unleashed, Ooblets, Phantasy Star Online 2, Session, Space Engineers, Waking and We Were Here Together.Upcoming games by Xbox like Age of Empires IV, Battletoads, CrossfireX, Everwild, Grounded, Halo Infinite, Microsoft Flight Simulator, Project: Mara, Psychonauts 2, Senua's Saga: Hellblade II, Tell Me Why and Wasteland 3.Upcoming third-party exclusives like 12 Minutes, Bartlow's Dread Machine, Bright Memory Infinite, Call of the Sea, Drake Hollow, KartRider: Drift, Last Stop, Orphan of the Machine, Pisces, Second Extinction, Scorn, The Artful Escape, The Ascent, The Falconeer, The Medium and Tunic.They have a bigger output and variety of games than both Sony and Nintendo combined. I don't understand how you are not part of their target market



You’ve listed a lot of games there, but a large number of which I wouldn’t go near. Tell Me Why, Bartlow’s Dread Machine (from a couch coop perspective) and The Medium look interesting, but not enough to warrant picking up the Series X just yet.

Just not really into first person or FPS games at all but I can see why people would be jumping into it for games like Bright Memory Infinite, Second Extinction and Scorn, they do look impressive.

An expensive console doesn’t look impressive sat on a shelf switched off.
joeydeacon19/07/2020 09:30

You’ve listed a lot of games there, but a large number of which I wouldn’t …You’ve listed a lot of games there, but a large number of which I wouldn’t go near. Tell Me Why, Bartlow’s Dread Machine (from a couch coop perspective) and The Medium look interesting, but not enough to warrant picking up the Series X just yet.Just not really into first person or FPS games at all but I can see why people would be jumping into it for games like Bright Memory Infinite, Second Extinction and Scorn, they do look impressive.An expensive console doesn’t look impressive sat on a shelf switched off.


God this guy is a ridiculous Xbox fan boy, can't even see any negatives with them.

He also reels out this not very impressive list of games to defend them including things like Psychonauts 2 which is coming to EVERYTHING, Minecraft Dungeons also on everything, and "exclusives" which are on PC for dirt cheap.
I imagine they want to push people to get the game pass if it includes gold/online.
spruceyb19/07/2020 10:20

God this guy is a ridiculous Xbox fan boy, can't even see any negatives …God this guy is a ridiculous Xbox fan boy, can't even see any negatives with them.He also reels out this not very impressive list of games to defend them including things like Psychonauts 2 which is coming to EVERYTHING, Minecraft Dungeons also on everything, and "exclusives" which are on PC for dirt cheap.


I am talking positively about Xbox on a topic to do with Xbox and you are referring to me as a "ridiculous Xbox fan boy" Would that not make you a troll?
Yoshimitsu20/07/2020 17:08

I am talking positively about Xbox on a topic to do with Xbox and you are …I am talking positively about Xbox on a topic to do with Xbox and you are referring to me as a "ridiculous Xbox fan boy" Would that not make you a troll?


Someone makes a comment on how Games as a service is a good business move for Microsoft especially with their 1st party output not being great. Then you chime in with a statement that "They have a bigger output and variety of games than both Sony and Nintendo combined" which makes you a Xbox fan boy.

You came with the same thing in a thread about every console, so yeah fanboy.
spruceyb20/07/2020 17:18

Someone makes a comment on how Games as a service is a good business move …Someone makes a comment on how Games as a service is a good business move for Microsoft especially with their 1st party output not being great. Then you chime in with a statement that "They have a bigger output and variety of games than both Sony and Nintendo combined" which makes you a Xbox fan boy.You came with the same thing in a thread about every console, so yeah fanboy.


Making people aware that Xbox has a bigger output and variety of games while providing examples maybe helps to make someone aware of games they did not know about. Shadow of the Colossus on PlayStation is one of favourite games but does this suddenly make me a Sony fanboy
Yoshimitsuu20/07/2020 17:44

Making people aware that Xbox has a bigger output and variety of games …Making people aware that Xbox has a bigger output and variety of games while providing examples maybe helps to make someone aware of games they did not know about. Shadow of the Colossus on PlayStation is one of favourite games but does this suddenly make me a Sony fanboy


They really don't have a bigger output or more variety though.
Then consider quality. Look at the 40 Best Exclusives of this generation.
metacritic.com/pic…tch
PS4 = 20 Titles
Switch = 14 Titles
Xbox = 6 Titles 2 were Ori and 3 were Forza, so yeah that's massive variety. And the final one was Titanfall whose sequel was Multiplat.

When @joeydeacon expressed his opinion that he's not a Xbox target customer, you argued that his opinion was wrong. That's the type of thing that makes you come of as a fanboy.
spruceyb20/07/2020 18:18

They really don't have a bigger output or more variety though.Then …They really don't have a bigger output or more variety though.Then consider quality. Look at the 40 Best Exclusives of this generation.https://www.metacritic.com/pictures/best-console-exclusive-games-ps4-xb1-switchPS4 = 20 TitlesSwitch = 14 TitlesXbox = 6 Titles 2 were Ori and 3 were Forza, so yeah that's massive variety. And the final one was Titanfall whose sequel was Multiplat.When @joeydeacon expressed his opinion that he's not a Xbox target customer, you argued that his opinion was wrong. That's the type of thing that makes you come of as a fanboy.


I didn't say he was wrong and I was going out of my way to make him feel more inclusive by providing examples of Xbox having a large variety of games for everybody that cannot be played on any other console.

I will be the first to admit Microsoft needs to have higher scoring first-party games than just Forza and Ori. Credit to Sony and Nintendo for releasing first-party games that get great scores and hopefully we will see more of this from Microsoft now that they have built up their first-party studios.

Also believe it is important to show people many of the games they overlook when thinking about Xbox. They have hundreds of indie and AA games not available on any other console and although individually they wouldn't be considered system sellers, when you add them all together they really show just how much variety there is.
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