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    Sam Aallardyce For sale The Telegraph exclusive investigation and other investigations

    Sam Allardyce used his position as England manager to negotiate a £400,000 deal and offered advice to businessmen on how to “get around” FA rules on player transfers, The Telegraph can disclose.

    telegraph.co.uk/new…le/

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    Original Poster

    He agreed to travel to Singapore and Hong Kong as an ambassador and explained to the “businessmen” how they could circumvent Football Association rules which prohibit third parties “owning” players.
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    Oh dear

    Original Poster

    deeky

    Oh dear


    Yeah doesn't make good reading for him
    During Allardyce’s meetings with the reporters he also:

    Criticised his predecessor Roy Hodgson, dubbing him “Woy” and saying that he “hasn’t got the personality” for public speaking;
    Said England’s players were underperforming because they had a “psychological barrier” and “can’t cope”;
    Suggested that players who were not being played for their club should not be picked for England;
    Described the FA decision to redevelop Wembley as “stupid”.
    Edited by: "archer1204" 26th Sep 2016

    archer1204

    Yeah doesn't make good reading for him During Allardyce’s meetings with t … Yeah doesn't make good reading for him During Allardyce’s meetings with the reporters he also:Criticised his predecessor Roy Hodgson, dubbing him “Woy” and saying that he “hasn’t got the personality” for public speaking;Said England’s players were underperforming because they had a “psychological barrier” and “can’t cope”;Suggested that players who were not being played for their club should not be picked for England;Described the FA decision to redevelop Wembley as “stupid”.



    I personally don't see a problem with points 2 and 3, it's the rest of the stuff, the dodgy dealings.

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    deeky

    I personally don't see a problem with points 2 and 3, it's the rest of … I personally don't see a problem with points 2 and 3, it's the rest of the stuff, the dodgy dealings.


    Agreed just highlighted the bullet points for the people who cant be bothered to follow the link

    Original Poster

    What Sam said
    IN QUOTES | What Sam Allardyce said
    On why Roy Hodgson, former England manager, would not be a good public speaker:

    “He’d send them all to sleep, Roy. Woy. He hasn’t got the personality for it.”

    On where Roy Hodgson went wrong as England manager:

    “Players let him down in the end. I think maybe he, he was too indecisive. Cast a bit of an anxiety over to the players maybe. I mean prior to the Iceland game, he won all 10 qualifiers. We'd drawn with Russia, we should have won. We beat Wales, and that was our worst performance. We drew with Slovakia, and we only had to draw with Iceland to get through ... he just collapsed.”

    On Gary Neville, former assistant manager England manager, advising Hodgson on the decision to substitute on Marcus Rashford during the match against Iceland in the Euros:

    “They were arguing for 10 minutes about bringing him on, him and Gary Neville. So Gary was the wrong influence for him. ----ing tell Gary to sit down and shut up, so you can do what you want. You’re the manager, you do what you want, not what they anyone else”

    On the chances of footballers playing for England:

    "Can’t play them then. Joe Hart. Jack Wilshere, on the bench for Arsenal. Oxlade-Chamberlain on the bench. You can play them, but they’re not playing for the club. When they’re not playing for the club, they’re just short of match practice.”

    On Wembley Stadium:

    “They [the FA] stupidly spent £870 million on Wembley, so they’re still paying that debt off. They completely rebuilt it. If they’d built it anywhere else, it would have cost about £400 million. They completely floored it and then rebuilt the new stadium which is fabulous, but that sort of debt is not really what you want. Most of the money the FA make[s] will go to the interest on the debt.”

    On the gambling habits of current or former senior England players:

    "[A club owner] bailed [a player] out twice. That’s players for you, dealing with the boredom, see. It were worse in our time … we gambled more in our time than they do now. We played cards, played cards all the way back [from away matches] … you’d do your wages in.”

    On the Football Association:

    “They’re all about making money aren’t they? You know the FA’s the richest football association in the world? Well, I shouldn’t say that. They’re not the richest at all. What they do is they have the biggest turnover in the world with £325 million.”

    On the Duke of Cambridge failing to appear at the launch of the Euro 2020 football tournament:

    “The only one that never turned up was Prince William. He’s our ambassador for the Football Association, so it would have been nice if he’d have turned up but he obviously had more, much busier things on.”

    On Prince Harry:

    “Harry’s a naughty boy. He’s a very naughty boy, very naughty. He shows his bottom and all sorts.”

    Original Poster

    Upcoming next few days after a 10 month telegraph investigation
    FOOTBALL FOR SALE | What the Telegraph investigation will reveal
    The Telegraph began investigating corruption in English football last year after receiving information that specific managers, officials and agents were taking or receiving cash payments to secure player transfers. Over the coming days the Telegraph will detail how:

    The assistant manager of a high-profile football club accepted a £5,000 cash “bung”

    Ten managers were named by players’ agents as taking bribes to fix player transfers

    Two well-known managers discussed becoming ambassadors for the same fictitious firm as Sam Allardyce

    Another high-profile manager admitted his players broke FA rules by betting on their own games but he failed to report it

    A senior figure at a Premier League club helped undercover reporters to formulate a plan to bribe managers

    Edited by: "archer1204" 26th Sep 2016

    Corruption in british sport? What next? Before you know it, they'll be taking drugs for ailments they don't have. What's that? They already are!

    And sam allardyce has got loads of personality good god somebody wake me up zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Original Poster

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    He will be fine because of him stating that he would have to run things by the powers that be.

    Although that could mean that the powers that be are also involved in scams, in which case it will all be swept under the carpet sharpish.

    Looks like he could be on his way.

    deeky

    Looks like he could be on his way.



    Just like hoddle was, couple of plonkers.

    Well at least he'll be the only England manager in history to have a 100% win record lol.

    Are there people out there who genuinely still believe that football isn't rotten to the core with corruption?

    Already have odds on his successor.

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    For God's sake, we're doomed

    delboyd

    Are there people out there who genuinely still believe that football … Are there people out there who genuinely still believe that football isn't rotten to the core with corruption?


    Its not football, its the individual.

    deeky

    Already have odds on his successor.For God's sake, we're doomed



    Howe best bet, said it all along. He'll be a breath of fresh air for England.

    J4GG4

    Howe best bet, said it all along. He'll be a breath of fresh air for … Howe best bet, said it all along. He'll be a breath of fresh air for England.



    ​Don Howe? He deserves it

    J4GG4

    Its not football, its the individual.



    Football as an industry is rotten to the core, we just don't know enough of the inside. Look what happens when the entire FIFA organisation is discredited. Two weeks in the news then never heard of again.

    delboyd

    Football as an industry is rotten to the core, we just don't know enough … Football as an industry is rotten to the core, we just don't know enough of the inside. Look what happens when the entire FIFA organisation is discredited. Two weeks in the news then never heard of again.



    Again individuals using their position to gain financially.

    Many people would do the same with or without a football background.

    deeky

    Already have odds on his successor.For God's sake, we're doomed


    Pardew is the Telegraphs' man, they backed him when Woy was emptied - bit miffed when Allardyce was picked ahead of him. Surprised odds are so short - he was 14s and 12s last time; can't say he's improved that much that he's at 5s. oO

    seriously. you want for this job for decades and you do this.. come on Sam. Im a big fan and so
    happy you got the job and now you mess it up :(. Just shows the greed is always there no matter how
    much money you have.

    Needs to go and to be honest it might be a good thing for English football. He was an uninspired hire and hopefully they rectify that with their next hire. Personally I'd go for someone like Jurgen Klinsmann and have a young English coach work under him with an eye to taking over somewhere down the line.

    shabbird

    seriously. you want for this job for decades and you do this.. come on … seriously. you want for this job for decades and you do this.. come on Sam. Im a big fan and so happy you got the job and now you mess it up :(. Just shows the greed is always there no matter how much money you have.



    I wasn't sure, is this since he became England manager?

    deeky

    I wasn't sure, is this since he became England manager?


    yes.. just before his first game was the first "meeting" and last week another meeting.

    Full story here with video

    Original Poster

    The vultures are circling heres a live upto date feed from the guardian seems to being updated in minutes
    theguardian.com/foo…ive

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    shabbird

    yes.. just before his first game was the first "meeting" and last week … yes.. just before his first game was the first "meeting" and last week another meeting.Full story here with video


    cheers shab i was just about to post that i would say on that video evidence alone he will probably have to go all for £400,000 when he was getting a guaranteed £3 million from the england job plus bonuses

    Edited by: "archer1204" 27th Sep 2016

    Original Poster

    shabbird

    yes.. just before his first game was the first "meeting" and last week … yes.. just before his first game was the first "meeting" and last week another meeting.Full story here with video


    Have you watched the video shab

    J4GG4

    Again individuals using their position to gain financially.Many people … Again individuals using their position to gain financially.Many people would do the same with or without a football background.



    We don't endorse corporate fraud in banking, so why do we endorse it in football?

    is anyone surprised really? loads of dodgy goings-on while at Bolton, usually involving his son Craig somewhere in the process.

    He's crooked & that's all there is to it X)

    Just another story of rich people getting richer. at the expense of everyone else.. and lets be honest very little morals left in any part of football

    Original Poster

    9m ago
    18:40
    Hello everyone. Should Allardyce depart, it is thought that Gareth Southgate will be the man to oversee England’s upcoming World Cup qualifiers against Malta and Slovenia, on 8 October and 11 October respectively.

    Steve Bruce has replaced Alan Pardew as the bookies’ favourite to be the next permanent England manager, and it is unlikely that Southgate’s view on the permanent job will have shifted from the summer, when he distanced himself from the position before Allardyce was appointed.

    archer1204

    Have you watched the video shab


    Just saw it now. But was reading the article. Must say he saved himself abit at the end when it
    came to bungs. That would end his career like George Graham.

    Original Poster

    Looks like sam will be able to resign rather than being sacked

    archer1204

    9m ago18:40Hello everyone. Should Allardyce depart, it is thought that … 9m ago18:40Hello everyone. Should Allardyce depart, it is thought that Gareth Southgate will be the man to oversee England’s upcoming World Cup qualifiers against Malta and Slovenia, on 8 October and 11 October respectively.Steve Bruce has replaced Alan Pardew as the bookies’ favourite to be the next permanent England manager, and it is unlikely that Southgate’s view on the permanent job will have shifted from the summer, when he distanced himself from the position before Allardyce was appointed.



    From Allardyce to Bruce. Fantastic.

    Southgate on the other hand has done some interesting things with the under-21s.

    Original Poster

    shabbird

    Just saw it now. But was reading the article. Must say he saved himself … Just saw it now. But was reading the article. Must say he saved himself abit at the end when it came to bungs. That would end his career like George Graham.


    Definitely but only 67 days in and looks like he will resign tonight and as a radio caller just said he has either been greedy or stupid either way he has to go.With the follow up investigations the telegraph are yet to print over the next few days he wont be the last.

    archer1204

    Definitely but only 67 days in and looks like he will resign tonight and … Definitely but only 67 days in and looks like he will resign tonight and as a radio caller just said he has either been greedy or stupid either way he has to go.With the follow up investigations the telegraph are yet to print over the next few days he wont be the last.


    I hope not as Im really a big fan of his. Have followed him since his Bolton days and
    have always backed his teams. Im sad that finally he gets his dream job he messes it up.

    Hope he stays as he could do wonders for England but I fear his days are numbered.

    bye bye Moyes and welcome back Alladyce. Sunderland fans will be dancing if he leaves the England job

    Original Poster

    With the video release Sam cannot now come out and say a different side of events as it clearly shows he was the one to tell them how to get around the rules etc
    The FA has asked for full transcripts so there is more to come out which either we will be drip fed or Sam stands down rather than being sacked really cant see him staying in his position.

    DarkEnergy2012

    is anyone surprised really? loads of dodgy goings-on while at Bolton, … is anyone surprised really? loads of dodgy goings-on while at Bolton, usually involving his son Craig somewhere in the process.He's crooked & that's all there is to it X)




    Only one man is equipped with the high moral values and sense of propriety needed to repair the damage done by Allardyce.



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