Scam a scammer, wrong or right?

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Found 16th Mar 2010
Ok this is the deal:
On ebay if a seller sells and item that is found to be not genuine *when advertised as such* and the buyer discovers it is a fake paypal will refund the buyer the money and ask the buyer to destroy the item.
This leads to people trying to find items that look fake on ebay and can easily be proven to be fake buying it and claiming back their money from paypal with their proof. They then keep the item (although it is fake) and money.

The question is do you think this is wrong or right?

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yeah man completely. if someones happy to take the **** out of you then why should you show them any mercy.

not particularly either. But it's prb the most practical way for things to work.

I think it's pretty unfair to deliberately try to do someone wrong either way. But more fair to scam a scammer.

Make any sense?

wrong

of course, serves them right

as your mother said - two wrongs don't make a right
A scam is only a scam if there is an innocent party, so if they buyer knows the item is fake, they aren't being scammed but they are scamming the seller.

[QUOTE=wonder-baby;8124300]as your mother said - two wrongs don't make a right
A scam is only a scam if there is an innocent party, so if they buyer knows the item is fake, they aren't being scammed but they are scamming the seller.[/QUOTE]

lol just contradicted yourself there!

Banned

100% the sellers fault if they want to chance ripping people off and breaking the law by selling and posting fake goods, they will also know if the buyer discovers this fake knowingly or not they will get an instant refund without having to return due to the fact you cannot send fakes back through the post legally.

It's quite simple they either don't sell on ebay and risk being pulled at a market or make an honest living not selling fakes, problem solved.

Original Poster

"A scam is only a scam if there is an innocent party, so if they buyer knows the item is fake, they aren't being scammed but they are scamming the seller."

Would you not prevent the scam artist from obtaining money illegally and prevent someone (a third person party ) from being scammed as well.

i bought some fake baby uggs on ebay they were listed as real i went thro pp they said i had to return to the buyer for refund she asked for them returned recorded as proof, paypal were no real help to me i told ebay they just removed the listing i wasnt refunded and asked to destroy this was apx 7mths ago

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SABJ;8124845

i bought some fake baby uggs on ebay they were listed as real i went thro … i bought some fake baby uggs on ebay they were listed as real i went thro pp they said i had to return to the buyer for refund she asked for them returned recorded as proof, paypal were no real help to me i told ebay they just removed the listing i wasnt refunded and asked to destroy this was apx 7mths ago



You should of said to paypal it's illegal to send counterfeit items in post.

tinkerbell28;8124376

the fact you cannot send fakes back through the post legally.



Got a link?
Surprised at that, as GHD sent some fake straighteners back.

electriclinux;8124869

You should of said to paypal it's illegal to send counterfeit items in … You should of said to paypal it's illegal to send counterfeit items in post.



i didnt know it was i just thought that was the way of it i send the item back then get refund minus the post i thought that was a bit unfair, first time id had a problem tho so i didnt know :thinking:

I bought my girlfriend a london links bracelet on ebay, seller seemed very genuine high 100% positive feedback etc.. got it through and it was a good fake but still a fake, reported it to paypal as not as advertised, recieved a full refund within 2 weeks and kept the bracelet ( made a nice xmas pressie for my mrs mum lol ) then went to my local store a bought a genuine one, comparing them showed how bad the fake actually was!

I wouldnt go out my way to scam a scammer but they deserve it, ripping people off, when I bought her the genuine one the guy in the shop says literally every day they have people come in to buy charms and they have to tell them the bracelet is fake and they are gutted, even happened with a links watch, the person paid £500 for it, only £550 for a genuine one!

So screw the scammers they deserve it!

[quote=wonder-baby;8124300]as your mother said - two wrongs don't make a right
But i also heard the phase " give them a taste of their own medcine" !!!!......:-D

Banned

i've done this in the past... I see it as a "challenge" lol

Original Poster

bykergrove;8125397

i've done this in the past... I see it as a "challenge" lol



Have any good fakes :w00t:?

Banned

electriclinux;8125419

Have any good fakes :w00t:?



a pair of sony cans were probably my best "haul" really good fakes but a couple tell tale issues so the guy refunded me and shut up his shop! :w00t:

the headphones were worth about £70

wonder-baby;8124300

as your mother said - two wrongs don't make a rightA scam is only a scam … as your mother said - two wrongs don't make a rightA scam is only a scam if there is an innocent party, so if they buyer knows the item is fake, they aren't being scammed but they are scamming the seller.



I Don't see a problem with it. It becomes a problem if the person tries to sell the fake they've kept.
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