School Project

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Found 13th Feb 2009
Hello all HUKD'ers i am 15 and i am doing a project on "Euthanasia" (Ill people and the elderly) please leave wheter you think it is right on not and why? any reply is great, thanks

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euthanasia in animals?

"Scholl"

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Whats that got to do with shoes?

Feet? Ooooh SCHOOL!

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well these questions always spark a debate. Personally i think yes if the person is terminally ill and is in alot of pain and its approved by a doctor(s)

I agree with it for certain diseases.
Like when your so riddle with cancer your skeletal and cant do for yourself ( ie need help to wash, go to loo)
For debilatating diseases like MS for same reason
If you got no quality of life you should be able to of made that decision when you were of sound mind, we dont allow pets /animals to live life the way we make sick people

splatsplatsplat;4372157

Feet? Ooooh SCHOOL!



lol :-D

Its a tricky area - I think that a legally whitnessed signed statement signed by the a terminally ill person whi is of sound mind should be acceptable but there are so many different circumstances where this would not apply that there is no concise answer to such a difficult question.

Good luck!!

i think this is a question better suited for boris johnson

yes i agree with it after watching my dad lose all his dignity lying in a hospice not even able to drink water and my mum died in hospital sceaming in pain,you would not let an animal suffer like that

My daughter has been set this homework also, she is the same age as you.

I think if you are doing this for a school project you need to consider how you personally feel about the issue. Can you see any instances when you could understand feeling so bad about life it was "acceptable" in some way to wish to end it? Or do you totally disagree with the idea? Can you expand upon those feelings or ideas at all?

Take a sheet of paper and note down all your thoughts under two headings "against euthanasia" and "for euthanasia".

A good argument is about clearly marking out your argument whatever that may be and communicating it effectively. Make an introductory paragraph and a summary/ conclusion to go at the end.

Good luck with it x x

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ettam123;4372199

yes i agree with it after watching my dad lose all his dignity lying in a … yes i agree with it after watching my dad lose all his dignity lying in a hospice not even able to drink water and my mum died in hospital sceaming in pain,you would not let an animal suffer like that



Sorry.

These intensely personal and usually very distressing times when someone is suffering unduly should they be left to end their lives with some dignity and without suffering. Medical ethics dictate than a doctor should prolong life as long as possible ... yet when an animal is suffering we are allowed, or chastised if we do not have its life terminated ... why?

i think everyone has the right to go in peace if thats what they want. if i couldnt take care of myself or had a bad illness where you just keep deteriating then you should be allowed the choice of euthansia.

i agree with it as after all you woul;d,nt let an animal suffer.

wulshaz;4372227

i agree with it as after all you woul;d,nt let an animal suffer.


snap

im really glad that i work at a vets as were able to be kind to dying animals. so we should be able to do the same for humans.

Very difficult one, but I think if a person is of sound mind, has a terminal illness and is in a lot of pain that can't be eased or they have absolutely no quality of life, then they should be able to choose to take a dignified 'exit'.

GoDutchGo;4372211

These intensely personal and usually very distressing times when someone … These intensely personal and usually very distressing times when someone is suffering unduly should they be left to end their lives with some dignity and without suffering. Medical ethics dictate than a doctor should prolong life as long as possible ... yet when an animal is suffering we are allowed, or chastised if we do not have its life terminated ... why?



they do it in hospices,they give people loads of morphine to kill the pain knowing its going to kill them,i watched my dad die like this and its better than seeing people in pain but dreadful that they are just lying there cant even open their eyes,but there alive,i would rather he had just been given an injection and that would have been it,it would have been much easier on the family

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"...it would have been much easier on the family"

That's What i think, Ending a persons suffering ends the familys suffering.

SOOO agree with it, always have but especially now. My husband's grandad is 95, living in a nursing home, is sick if he's taken out in a wheelchair (motion sickness) or car/ambulance and has now developed black feet and fingers due to poor circulation from his heart not pumping properly. The doctors say that gangrene will probably kick in soon - MY GOD, if he was an animal he would have been put out of his misery long long ago and if his owners had chosen to keep him alive (if he were an animal that is) then it have been classed as cruelty and they would probably have had the RSPCA onto them.

I know there is dodgy ground somewhere with people trying to get their inheritance a little too early, but surely something can be sorted out whilst the person is still sound of mind with a doctor and solicitor present and these 2 people then jointly make the decision that enough is enough. It's just awful seeing someone suffer and to go through cancer or alzheimers (or similar) must be unbearable, I just hope that the politicians realise this and bring it in as law before any of my family need it.

There you go, rant over, I feel better now!!

" I think that a legally whitnessed signed statement signed by the a terminally ill person whi is of sound mind should be acceptable"

But what if someone who is perfectly fit and healthy is in a tragic accident and everyone who knows them knows that they wouldn't want to live in a vegatitive state, but they've got to be kept alive? And they hadn't signed anything saying they would like to be oh god, what term do you use?..... put to sleep??

I would hate to be "trapped" in my body with no real way to walk, talk, eat, wash myself etc.
Mind you, my nan suffered from dementia, forgot who we all were, who she was, that my grandad had died and became incontinent and very very confused. If a doctor said to me "well, she's not who she was, so can we off her now?" I don't think I could have condoned it. You always keep hoping for a miracle I guess.


Also, what's the difference between alive and living? Is suicide as a result of depression considered as euthanasia?

Dimitar Berbatov;4372301

"...it would have been much easier on the family"That's What i think, … "...it would have been much easier on the family"That's What i think, Ending a persons suffering ends the familys suffering.



sweetie... a certain amount yes... but the death of someone you love isnt the "end" of suffering for many people. Expand upon your argument and think it through further x x

ettam123;4372279

they do it in hospices,they give people loads of morphine to kill the … they do it in hospices,they give people loads of morphine to kill the pain knowing its going to kill them,i watched my dad die like this and its better than seeing people in pain but dreadful that they are just lying there cant even open their eyes,but there alive,i would rather he had just been given an injection and that would have been it,it would have been much easier on the family


yes I know someone who was allowed to die with their family around him in a very calm and moving way ... not in this country and with 2 doctors concent... I do feel for you ettam123 :-(

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"My husband's grandad is 95, living in a nursing home, is sick if he's taken out in a wheelchair (motion sickness) or car/ambulance and has now developed black feet and fingers due to poor circulation from his heart not pumping properly. The doctors say that gangrene will probably kick in soon"

[LEFT][CENTER]What do you think would be best for him?[/CENTER][/LEFT]

ettam123;4372279

they do it in hospices,they give people loads of morphine to kill the … they do it in hospices,they give people loads of morphine to kill the pain knowing its going to kill them,i watched my dad die like this and its better than seeing people in pain but dreadful that they are just lying there cant even open their eyes,but there alive,i would rather he had just been given an injection and that would have been it,it would have been much easier on the family



:friends:

*hugs* for you

chryssie;4372317

" I think that a legally whitnessed signed statement signed by the a … " I think that a legally whitnessed signed statement signed by the a terminally ill person whi is of sound mind should be acceptable"But what if someone who is perfectly fit and healthy is in a tragic accident and everyone who knows them knows that they wouldn't want to live in a vegatitive state, but they've got to be kept alive? And they hadn't signed anything saying they would like to be oh god, what term do you use?..... put to sleep??I would hate to be "trapped" in my body with no real way to walk, talk, eat, wash myself etc.Mind you, my nan suffered from dementia, forgot who we all were, who she was, that my grandad had died and became incontinent and very very confused. If a doctor said to me "well, she's not who she was, so can we off her now?" I don't think I could have condoned it. You always keep hoping for a miracle I guess. Also, what's the difference between alive and living? Is suicide as a result of depression considered as euthanasia?




If you agree with it then I think you should sign something like you would sign up to be an organ donor which would cover you for any accidents/illnesses in future life, basically saying that when you have no quality of life then the doctor can authorise to "put you to sleep".

I think the euthanasia need more nightclubs.

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I am an Organ Donor and i'm 15

Annie1508;4372426

If you agree with it then I think you should sign something like you … If you agree with it then I think you should sign something like you would sign up to be an organ donor which would cover you for any accidents/illnesses in future life, basically saying that when you have no quality of life then the doctor can authorise to "put you to sleep".



thats like a DNR request.

if a person wants to die, it is their right. If they are unable to do it themselves then they shoudl be allowed to have someone help. but there should be official means of documenting this so its all legit, i.e. a doctor signs his name to show its been done

i always thought that was another way of sayin kids in asia

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"You have given too much rep out in the last 24 Hours"

But gave it too the first 5 real posters or so.

Sorry 'ClaritofMind' i gave you rep earlier!

Sheep87;4372509

if a person wants to die, it is their right. If they are unable to do it … if a person wants to die, it is their right. If they are unable to do it themselves then they shoudl be allowed to have someone help. but there should be official means of documenting this so its all legit, i.e. a doctor signs his name to show its been done



Exactly, we're supposed to be the superior race and yet we have no control over whether or not we (and our families) suffer or not. I think the people that need to make the decision to make it legal daren't make it for the few people that will "go off on one", why don't they do a national vote and see what the results are, I think they would be suprised.

Dimitar Berbatov;4372556

"You have given too much rep out in the last 24 Hours"But gave it too the … "You have given too much rep out in the last 24 Hours"But gave it too the first 5 real posters or so.Sorry 'ClaritofMind' i gave you rep earlier!



Thats cool. I am always helping my kids with essays such as this so it's just my usual "Mum" stuff...lol :thumbsup:

In all seriousness here Berb. I did Religious Studies for my GCSE's - god knows why but I'll give this a shot.

Euthanasia is basically aiding someone to die without feeling anything. I agree with this as my Mum works as a mental health patient, and some of her patients have to have 24/7 care - literally every second a care worker must be present and within arms reach, reason being, the mentally disabled person wants to harm himself and end his own life.

In my view, he really dosen't want to be alive, and it seems he's being punished by being kept alive for the sake of it.

In other areas for example, a flesh eating disease, where sooner or later your going to die. I agree again with euthansia, I can't begin to imagine the pain of a flesh eating disorder, nor the emotional grief, but if a person wishes to end their life to stop the pain - its their life, nobody can understand what its like for that person.

Hope this helps in some way, shape or form.

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Meadsy4742;4372677

In all seriousness here Berb. I did Religious Studies for my GCSE's - … In all seriousness here Berb. I did Religious Studies for my GCSE's - god knows why but I'll give this a shot.Euthanasia is basically aiding someone to die without feeling anything. I agree with this as my Mum works as a mental health patient, and some of her patients have to have 24/7 care - literally every second a care worker must be present and within arms reach, reason being, the mentally disabled person wants to harm himself and end his own life. In my view, he really dosen't want to be alive, and it seems he's being punished by being kept alive for the sake of it. In other areas for example, a flesh eating disease, where sooner or later your going to die. I agree again with euthansia, I can't begin to imagine the pain of a flesh eating disorder, nor the emotional grief, but if a person wishes to end their life to stop the pain - its their life, nobody can understand what its like for that person.Hope this helps in some way, shape or form.



Thanks Alot, Good Read. Very Interesting to hear everyone's stories and views on the matter, Thanks again.

Meadsy4742;4372677

In all seriousness here Berb. I did Religious Studies for my GCSE's - … In all seriousness here Berb. I did Religious Studies for my GCSE's - god knows why but I'll give this a shot.Euthanasia is basically aiding someone to die without feeling anything. I agree with this as my Mum works as a mental health patient, and some of her patients have to have 24/7 care - literally every second a care worker must be present and within arms reach, reason being, the mentally disabled person wants to harm himself and end his own life. In my view, he really dosen't want to be alive, and it seems he's being punished by being kept alive for the sake of it. In other areas for example, a flesh eating disease, where sooner or later your going to die. I agree again with euthansia, I can't begin to imagine the pain of a flesh eating disorder, nor the emotional grief, but if a person wishes to end their life to stop the pain - its their life, nobody can understand what its like for that person.Hope this helps in some way, shape or form.



However should that "ill" person with the aid of psychotherapy, medication, medical intervention then successful recover from their mental illness/ physical illness, and you would have allowed them euthanasia whilst they were ill... have you not then committed murder? ( not saying you have, just providing the argument ) Is the mentally ill person fully aware of their desires and the consequences of that? Who decides if they are or arent? And if they arent, who then decides whether their thanatoic desires are "acceptable" or not?

Minefield.

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dcx_badass;4372699

Yes as long as heavily regulated. I presume you are in a Catholic school?



If it's me you are talking to then Yes, This one to be exact.

eastkilbridenews.co.uk/lan…33/

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my daughter is the same age and had this at school, if it is the same then this is about your ideas for/againt euthanasia not everyone elses
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