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    Hi i had been learning to drive but gave up
    and thinking about it for the amount i would be driving a car seems an expensive want

    So i though hey im gunna be doing about 6miles a day max why not get a scooter

    So i was wondering if you lot could give me any help on going about this

    Scooter = probably bout £650 for a 50cc
    Insurance = how much would it cost me an 18 year old
    CBT - how much is this and how long does it take to complete and last

    Is it best to get the scooter first and practice ina private area e.g car park then do my cbt ?

    All scooters are auto right ?

    Cheers

    Daniel

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    Err, Can't help with all of them, But not all scooters are Auto, Most 50cc's are, But most 125cc's aren't.

    If you want an Auto your looking for a "Twist and go".

    get a car!

    Daniel - personally, I wouldn't give up on driving just yet mate.

    Stick with it and you will get there in the end. You will regret not passing whilst you are young later on in life!

    With regards to Mopeds / Scooters, haven't got a clue mate and believe they should all be banished to a deserted Greek Island where 17 year old Chavs can drive them with no helmets on in peace....!

    let me know if you do want one i am trying to sell one and i'm not far from you not sure about the other stuff though, i brought it for my ex but he never used it

    Original Poster

    lol i know chavs ride mopeds but i shall change this lol

    I just need a scooter i mean for the distance im going and it be good for a little run around

    tracy013

    let me know if you do want one i am trying to sell one and i'm not far … let me know if you do want one i am trying to sell one and i'm not far from you not sure about the other stuff though, i brought it for my ex but he never used it




    Where you situated?

    Iom-RF

    Err, Can't help with all of them, But not all scooters are Auto, Most … Err, Can't help with all of them, But not all scooters are Auto, Most 50cc's are, But most 125cc's aren't.If you want an Auto your looking for a "Twist and go".




    Yer thats it - i just wanna ride and thats it no hassle

    peteivy

    get a car!



    I will later on in my life but i live otuside london and traffic is gridlocked every day so i can sneak past in my scooter and flip everyone off lol

    Banned

    dont get a moped i get p d off with them as they go so slow, they are also more dangerous and you could get a car for the same price. dont give up on driving you will prob end not taking your test for years if you do

    Banned

    also congrats on 2000 posts

    Banned

    Get a 125 2stroke mate as they dont go slow and will go about 60mph standard and you can pick a good one up second hand for about £600, CBT will take one day and you can't really fail it as it is not a test but its training and this costs about £100, insurance depends on what area you live in but third party only shouldnt bee too much.

    kcnw9

    dandoc2

    Where you situated?


    pm'ed you, got a helmet (used) and jacket (never used) as well

    If you buy anything secondhand, Don't buy a helmet!

    A helmet needs to fit correctly, They also deteriorate over time, Its the only thing that protects your head from the road if you ever came off, Make sure the helmets a good 'un!

    (Good helmets around around £150+)

    Original Poster

    I like the look of this on ebay



    But could be a bit slow

    Banned

    at one time i wanted an apprilia rx or rs

    Banned

    just thought id remind you that ebay links arent allowed :thumbsup: anyway i wouldnt be seen dead on that lol

    Original Poster

    hothothot

    just thought id remind you that ebay links arent allowed :thumbsup: … just thought id remind you that ebay links arent allowed :thumbsup: anyway i wouldnt be seen dead on that lol


    oh yeh lol sorry

    Go for it. You can de-restrict 50cc's easy enough these days. They are so much fun, especially in the summer. 125's are even more fun.

    If you are just going to be doing 6 miles every day then why not get a bike (on which you cycle). I cycle 7 miles every day to and from school and its really easy, each way takes 20 mins. Its muuuuch cheaper than getting a ped/car, you dont need petrol, you dont need insurance and you dont need to take a test + you'll be saving the evironment + your health.

    i have owned bikes and scoots when i was younger

    personally i think a scooter is a good way of getting round - i had one when i got my first job which was 3 miles down the road - it would have costed me £15 a week to get there on the bus - but i got a new scoot on finance for around 40 a month which gave me freedom - (i couldnt drive then)

    i loved it - at the end of the day most 50's these days come de-restricted and will do between 50-55 and 125's will hit 65ish

    best fun i ever had - and the thing is for short journeys (city etc) they are just as quick as a car

    as for cost - dont get too cheap a bike as you get what you pay for

    insurance should be no more than 200 (most tend to be under £120)

    as for the bike - personally i would go for either a aprilla or a italjet - my fave being either the italjet formula 50 or dragster 50/125

    any questions feel free to pm me as it is (or was up until 2 years ago) my specialist subject as i tended to do all my own repairs

    as for helmet - to be fair you want to spend around 100 if possible - but certainly no lower than 50 - theres always a good deal to be had

    pm me if you want to know anything else

    Banned

    Yeah get a good make bike like gilera, piaggio, aprilia or italijet as they have loads of parts available and most of them share the same engines.

    kcnw9

    i forgot gilera - the runner is a great scoot with leg warmers (not sure about new models) stay away from the DNA though - cops like to pull them over from my experience - also i think they look a bit tacky

    Banned

    yah and the dna looks like a ant lol, still not a bad engine tho so cant complain about them:thumbsup:

    kcnw9

    Original Poster

    Cyclings gr8 but you arrive sweaty etc

    What about this one on ebay is ti any good knewbold?

    Item number: 330153064153

    50CC £575 + £75 DELIVERY

    Banned

    dan i would get a job 1st if you havent yet got one :-D

    Original Poster

    hothothot

    dan i would get a job 1st if you havent yet got one :-D


    Well at the moment my work is limited to where i can get to via bus but there was a job but i couldnt get there as no bus route and it was quite a distance so having a scooter would be perfect

    Daniel

    Banned

    oh ok, i still say carry on learning to drive, how long have you been learning? done theory? did you take a test?

    Banned

    Please do not get that bike off ebay, it will not last long, these chinese cheap bikes dont last long at all, buy one of the makes already stated up there^

    kcnw9

    Get a push bike, far less hassle.

    :thumbsup: :-D :-D

    dandoc2

    Hi i had been learning to drive but gave up and thinking about it for the … Hi i had been learning to drive but gave up and thinking about it for the amount i would be driving a car seems an expensive want



    Anythings expensive now-adays

    dandoc2

    So i though hey im gunna be doing about 6miles a day max why not get a … So i though hey im gunna be doing about 6miles a day max why not get a scooter



    Well 6 miles a day isn't much to be fair, I'd say cycle. But if you have to go down busy roads etc. You'd definatly get a good bike for £350. But, your best off getting a 4-stroke 125cc bike to be fair. My friend has an XR125 (which is for sale at the minute, 5k miles), geared bike, does 240 miles to a full tank which costs him £12. So if my maths is correct, probably wrong, your paying approx 40p a journey.

    Scooter = Hmm. 125 scooters aren't great, seeing as your over 17 you can have a bike up to 125cc on a CBT. I'd say push your price range up, because your better off with a geared bike, or a well branded (aprilla, yamaha, derbi, honda, etc) bike seeing as your looking at reliability more than anything.

    Insurance = With no road experience, cost my friend £459 on an XR125 with one years experience on a 50cc ped. Other friend had a race tuned RS125, cost him just over £540, and on a Derbi SM50 it cost one of my mates £350.

    CBT = On a geared bike the test can be up to 2hours longer as you are having to get use to clutch and gears. On a scooter its usually 2hours just for a quick rag around a carpark then onto the road to be assessed. So in theory on a geared bike it could take up to 4hours.

    dandoc2

    Is it best to get the scooter first and practice ina private area e.g … Is it best to get the scooter first and practice ina private area e.g car park then do my cbt ?



    Will always benefit if you can get some practice. Same with everything.

    dandoc2

    All scooters are auto right ?



    Yes.


    James

    Original Poster

    jamesterror

    Anythings expensive now-adaysInsurance = With no road experience, cost my … Anythings expensive now-adaysInsurance = With no road experience, cost my friend £459 on an XR125 with one years experience on a 50cc ped. Other friend had a race tuned RS125, cost him just over £540, and on a Derbi SM50 it cost one of my mates £350.



    ouch sod that then i could get a car insured for that

    hothothot

    oh ok, i still say carry on learning to drive, how long have you been … oh ok, i still say carry on learning to drive, how long have you been learning? done theory? did you take a test?



    Umm started my lessons january and stopped may

    Have had 20 lessons-im not bad im just a very nervous person and think of the worse -----i can parallel park - bay park and 3 point turn (not amazing ) all pretty well --ive not smashed anybodys car -- drivings fine as long as its on level ground - traffic i can cope but ive stalled many times in traffic because i bring my clutch up too much so i can ease along in the congestion

    I havent taken my theory and id be ina mad rush to pass my theory as sep 1st they change it to like a 70 mark exam not the current outta 35

    I think i could pass my driving test if it wasnt for the hill start but becos you do do that im not taking it for a long while

    Could do with some practice in an enclosed area so i can master the clutch but no luck where i am in surrey

    dandoc2

    ouch sod that then i could get a car insured for that



    I'd like to see where!

    Even on your parents insurance and a tin box will be near enough £700+ depending on the car, Security, where you live etc.

    I wouldn't be surprised if insurance topped out at £1000+ for a new driver.

    Original Poster

    Iom-RF

    I'd like to see where!Even on your parents insurance and a tin box will … I'd like to see where!Even on your parents insurance and a tin box will be near enough £700+ depending on the car, Security, where you live etc.I wouldn't be surprised if insurance topped out at £1000+ for a new driver.


    Yer your probs right but £500 insurance for a moped is way too much i thought it be like £150 tops

    When i do get a car (mini original :D) im guna have it parked in the garage to get my cost down and say i live in a house surrounded by steel gates and everyone who lives around here is called jesus

    dandoc2

    ouch sod that then i could get a car insured for that



    Really? I'd like to know where since your still having lessons. Most people I know at 18 are paying at least £700 on insurance =/ Know someone on their first year of driving paid £1300 TPFT on a Saxo V Reg 1.1.

    Its not £150 tops for a ped lol, go check out Bennetts.co.uk. I've tried for a RS50, SM50 and a DT50 and its been between £250 - £400 third party fire and theft.

    Original Poster

    jamesterror

    Really? I'd like to know where since your still having lessons. Most … Really? I'd like to know where since your still having lessons. Most people I know at 18 are paying at least £700 on insurance =/ Know someone on their first year of driving paid £1300 TPFT on a Saxo V Reg 1.1.Its not £150 tops for a ped lol, go check out Bennetts.co.uk. I've tried for a RS50, SM50 and a DT50 and its been between £250 - £400 third party fire and theft.


    I did a est for a mini and it came to £900 but if i go on my dads i can get it for £600

    james

    those insurance prices are mad!

    the rs is a common "bike" rather than a scooter - same with the first one - trust me your talking under 200 i guarantee

    Hill starts are easy once you know how to do them, plenty of gas and slowly bring the clutch up and then let off the hand brake, i've done 20 lessons now and i learned how to do a hill start yesterday.

    Get a car & then wait til your 21 & get a proper bike !!!

    A nice 600CC Hornet/Bandit/Fazer will see you right

    Banned

    you can get a car insured for about £500 if your 18 some of my friends have, but their car is only worth about £500 and they have a high excess thingy.
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