Selling android boxes preloaded with Kodi and add-ons to become illegal?

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Found 28th Sep 2016
Fat man is taken to court for selling boxes able to stream pirated material. I think it's about time.
I wonder how much he has donated to the developers who put all the hard work in.

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The people buying these should be taken to jail. It takes minutes to set up yourself, peasants.

Selling pre loaded boxes will get banned hopefully.

Android boxes or kodi itself? No chance.

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benjammin316

The people buying these should be taken to jail. It takes minutes to set … The people buying these should be taken to jail. It takes minutes to set up yourself, peasants.



Some unscrupulous types up here charging £15 - £20 just to update boxes.

chimp14uk

Some unscrupulous types up here charging £15 - £20 just to update boxes.




Yeah ridiculous, but if there's a market for it someone will exploit people not in the know.

He is taken the ****?? £69 for a android box fully loaded , you can purchase them below £20 on some deals, he is ripping people off to start with

When's it likely to be banned?

I also thought the same, isn't this a good thing to stop those rip off merchants? It's unlikely they're probably paying tax either with the dodgy ebayers

Banned

Good. Completely pointless buying a box pre-loaded. This will help protect the stupid.

If you can't follow a simple tutorial on how to install Kodi, what are you going to do when an add on goes down or you want to install a new one? You will be back to square one again.

Just take some time to learn, it honestly doesn't take long to get the hang of it.

It really is no different to the old method of selling copied discs at a car boot sale, so whatever law applied then should be the same now.
I wouldn't be too fussed about whether customers are getting ripped off - they're aware of the price and choose to buy it.
I'd be more concerned that people still choose risk over reward when it comes to making a living.

All this means for me is that I would get pestered by mates to set sticks up for them instead of them paying some fat bloke on eBay to do it. FML.

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Rubisco

All this means for me is that I would get pestered by mates to set sticks … All this means for me is that I would get pestered by mates to set sticks up for them instead of them paying some fat bloke on eBay to do it. FML.



You would be a pretty bad friend if you didn't offer to do it for free (_;)

Since people know I know how to set up kodi with goodies, I've done it for a few people.

I think back to the days I was a complete kodi noob. But like you guys said, not difficult to learn as they are some very helpful people out there.

kiish

I also thought the same, isn't this a good thing to stop those rip off … I also thought the same, isn't this a good thing to stop those rip off merchants? It's unlikely they're probably paying tax either with the dodgy ebayers



maybe you'd like to retract your slanderous comments against someone whose business accounts are available on the companies house site

drasim

It really is no different to the old method of selling copied discs at a … It really is no different to the old method of selling copied discs at a car boot sale, so whatever law applied then should be the same now.I wouldn't be too fussed about whether customers are getting ripped off - they're aware of the price and choose to buy it.I'd be more concerned that people still choose risk over reward when it comes to making a living.



actually its completely different.

streaming was deemed to be legal by the European court of justice, because a cached copy of say a film wasn't deemed to be in breach of copyright law.

its only very recently that another court has ruled that linking to copyrighted material is in breach of copyright rules, which has lead to this case being possible.

eset12345

maybe you'd like to retract your slanderous comments against someone … maybe you'd like to retract your slanderous comments against someone whose business accounts are available on the companies house site



No need to get heated up darling, unless the accounts have been audited I could not care less because you can write whatever figures you want in the returns without any sort of verification.

Edited by: "kiish" 28th Sep 2016

EN1GMA

Selling pre loaded boxes will get banned hopefully. Android boxes or kodi … Selling pre loaded boxes will get banned hopefully. Android boxes or kodi itself? No chance.



Don't jinx it, there's some pretty technologically inept people out there making our laws.

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moneysavingkitten

Don't jinx it, there's some pretty technologically inept people out there … Don't jinx it, there's some pretty technologically inept people out there making our laws.



You will never be able to ban an android box on the basis it can run kodi. Pretty much any device you can think of could run kodi. PS4,xbox,I-pad etc etc..

MrScotchBonnet

You will never be able to ban an android box on the basis it can run … You will never be able to ban an android box on the basis it can run kodi. Pretty much any device you can think of could run kodi. PS4,xbox,I-pad etc etc..


Kodi on ps4? You learn something new everyday

MrScotchBonnet

You will never be able to ban an android box on the basis it can run … You will never be able to ban an android box on the basis it can run kodi. Pretty much any device you can think of could run kodi. PS4,xbox,I-pad etc etc..



You could ban Kodi though.

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EN1GMA

Kodi on ps4? You learn something new everyday



I don't mean it's available now. It would require major porting undertaking and you can run Linux Kernel on a PS4 so it's very possible. My point is, if there is a demand to be met, someone will meet it.

Android boxes won't be banned anyway.
Edited by: "MrScotchBonnet" 28th Sep 2016

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moneysavingkitten

You could ban Kodi though.



You could. Not sure how you could really enforce it though with services such as VPN.

MrScotchBonnet

You could. Not sure how you could really enforce it though with services … You could. Not sure how you could really enforce it though with services such as VPN.



Not being able to enforce things doesn't seem to stop them trying to implement crazy laws.

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moneysavingkitten

Not being able to enforce things doesn't seem to stop them trying to … Not being able to enforce things doesn't seem to stop them trying to implement crazy laws.



Nope.

moneysavingkitten

You could ban Kodi though.


You could and something else would rise in its place pretty much the same day. Computers are used to hack, don't Mean you ban computers.

EN1GMA

You could and something else would rise in its place pretty much the same … You could and something else would rise in its place pretty much the same day. Computers are used to hack, don't Mean you ban computers.



It's a bit like pirate bay isn't it? They blocked that, now there's millions of them. Didn't stop them trying.

moneysavingkitten

It's a bit like pirate bay isn't it? They blocked that, now there's … It's a bit like pirate bay isn't it? They blocked that, now there's millions of them. Didn't stop them trying.


You've got to admire their naivety X)

Nintendo managed to get Flashcarts made illegal to sell in the UK. can imagine the movie industry could do something similar with purpose built boxes, but that would be like making Raspberry Pi or similar illegal.
Edited by: "haritori" 28th Sep 2016

eset12345

actually its completely different. streaming was deemed to be legal by … actually its completely different. streaming was deemed to be legal by the European court of justice, because a cached copy of say a film wasn't deemed to be in breach of copyright law.its only very recently that another court has ruled that linking to copyrighted material is in breach of copyright rules, which has lead to this case being possible.



Not really, the person buying the service isn't getting prosecuted, it's always the person selling the service. So the streaming aspect is null and void. Same with CS / IPTV
Just because installing an app is easier than decoding on the fly then streaming out, doesn't mean that they're distinguishable.

I'm not against it by the way, I'm one of the worst offenders! I am an end user though, not a business

haritori

Nintendo managed to get Flashcarts made illegal to sell in the UK. can … Nintendo managed to get Flashcarts made illegal to sell in the UK. can imagine the movie industry could do something similar with purpose built boxes, but that would be like making Raspberry Pi or similar illegal.



They would have to ban mobile phones laptops & tablets as they can all run kodi.

This is local to me, technically if he is selling the plain software on a box then he is doing nothing wrong, if a customer goes home and installs naughty software thats their doing.

If I sold you a family car and you then used it in a bank robbery would that be my fault?

Downloaded Kodi once and set it up, tons of pornography streaming on Kodi making up the majority of channels once I blocked them to make it "family friendly", then realised Plex has more or less the same stuff as all the unblocked channels remaining so got rid of Kodi.

Graham1979

This is local to me, technically if he is selling the plain software on a … This is local to me, technically if he is selling the plain software on a box then he is doing nothing wrong, if a customer goes home and installs naughty software thats their doing. If I sold you a family car and you then used it in a bank robbery would that be my fault?


He is selling ''fully-loaded Kodi boxes with third-party add-ons that provide access to pirated copies of films and TV series, or provide free access to subscription television channels.''

tregs

He is selling ''fully-loaded Kodi boxes with third-party add-ons that … He is selling ''fully-loaded Kodi boxes with third-party add-ons that provide access to pirated copies of films and TV series, or provide free access to subscription television channels.''



gazettelive.co.uk/new…403

From a local "newspaper" if you could call it that. Thing I have never understood with Kodi et al is that it must be logged by your service provider what you're accessing etc. The old boxes would just pluck the singel out the air and decode it.

I'm afraid Kodi etc has just past me by.

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Graham1979

This is local to me, technically if he is selling the plain software on a … This is local to me, technically if he is selling the plain software on a box then he is doing nothing wrong, if a customer goes home and installs naughty software thats their doing. If I sold you a family car and you then used it in a bank robbery would that be my fault?



Did you bother to read the article?

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Graham1979

http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/kodi-box-court-case-im-11946403From a local "newspaper" if you could call it that. Thing I have never understood with Kodi et al is that it must be logged by your service provider what you're accessing etc. The old boxes would just pluck the singel out the air and decode it.I'm afraid Kodi etc has just past me by.



In a different article it mentions that during the 18 month investigation, he was found to be selling the boxes pre-loaded. I'm assuming they sent some people in to purchase them and have recorder their findings.

Graham1979

http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/kodi-box-court-case-im-11946403From a local "newspaper" if you could call it that. Thing I have never understood with Kodi et al is that it must be logged by your service provider what you're accessing etc. The old boxes would just pluck the singel out the air and decode it.I'm afraid Kodi etc has just past me by.


Another item from the same source: gazettelive.co.uk/new…918
He is challenging the legality of selling the boxes
Edited by: "tregs" 28th Sep 2016

tregs

Another item from the same source: … Another item from the same source: http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/kodi-court-case-middlesbrough-trader-11943918He is challenging the legality of selling the boxes




strange I could buy my mummy a box of cigarettes or a bottle of plonk that would cause her harm without issue.
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