Should I be worried!?

Sold my mobile phone on Ebay for a decent some of money, sent special delivery etc...
Now the issue I have is that having had a sneaky look at the buyers others purchases he has just purchsed a 'dummy' or shop display version of this phone for £3! My concern is that he will raise an issue with the phone with paypal and when he has to return the phone he will send back the 'dummy' phone in the original packaging i sent him.

If it is fraud the guy is obviously not very bright as it has logged on Ebay that he purchased a 'dummy' version of the phone he has got from me!

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maybe the dummy if for a child, so they play with that rather than ruining the buyers real phone

At least you have the noggin to find that out, i defo would be wary of him and keep a copy somewhere of his purchase, Im sure that ebay will see it tho. Still always worth being ahead of these people, if indeed, he is one of them........hope all goes smoothly

Don't worry, enjoy the sunshine

Original Poster

Thanks for the swift replies. I have copies of all transactions in case it does turn nasty. You all know how paypal always side with the buyer though!! May be interesting to see what happens... I will keep you posted!

lol pretty stupid of him...another point is if you sent it recorded. keep the receipt as normally it has the weights of the package. normally original phones weigh more than a dummy so even if he sends the dummy back you'll know cos the weight of the package will be different

surely if he tries anything dodgy (sending back the wrong phone) or claiming you sent him a dodgy one. You can just give ebay the auction number of the fake one.....

Mind you, that implies ebay have half a brain.

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tinkerbell28

Yes, I'd be worried. You recorded all the serial no's and took pics etc … Yes, I'd be worried. You recorded all the serial no's and took pics etc didn't you? Did you security mark the phone? But yes if he does it you have the added bonus that he is completely thick.



Yep. I have all the details logged as I am like that! they are also logged with VirginMobile when I registered the phone.

Original Poster

I may log my concerns with Ebay anyway, just in case he tries to sell the dummy phone on using my original packaging. Not sure if Ebay do watch accounts though for strange dealings.

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gs-rai

lol pretty stupid of him...another point is if you sent it recorded. keep … lol pretty stupid of him...another point is if you sent it recorded. keep the receipt as normally it has the weights of the package. normally original phones weigh more than a dummy so even if he sends the dummy back you'll know cos the weight of the package will be different



Having checked the details of the 'dummy' phone it is the same size, weight and look of a real phone so that woudln't work!

At least you have all the details of the original phone, so hopefully it should all be ok (even if they try to rob you).

If things go wrong and he does send the dummy phone back and you lose out you can always report the phone as stolen so they wont be able to use it either if the worst was to happen.

I would be very careful, I would also email the guy advising that you have seen the fact he has purchased this dummy phone and note the item number in the email, this will make him think twice regarding even trying to con you. If it innocent then so be it, it is not as if you are every going to talk to him again anyway and you have his money.

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maybe he bought a dummy version to see if he likes the phone, i know people who have done it. sometimes its easier paying a couple of quid for a dummy version rather than going to talk to idiots in a phone shop

don't message him and tell him you know he bought a dummy phone as that's weird and borderline stalking, he hasn't done anything wrong just leave him alone unless he actually does something fraudulent
Edited by: "DaveLister" 1st Sep 2010

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Jumpingphil

After he bought the real phone?


where does it say it was bought after the real phone?

Maybe he bought the dummy for the battery cover or something?

Did the phone you sold have general wear and tear that would have warranted something like this?

DaveLister

maybe he bought a dummy version to see if he likes the phone, i know … maybe he bought a dummy version to see if he likes the phone, i know people who have done it. sometimes its easier paying a couple of quid for a dummy version rather than going to talk to idiots in a phone shop don't message him and tell him you know he bought a dummy phone as that's weird and borderline stalking, he hasn't done anything wrong just leave him alone unless he actually does something fraudulent



Who buys a dummy version of the phone to see if they like it? Never heard anything so ludicrous.

How can a quick message be borderline stalking? Basically it is saying look numb nuts, I got your number, dont try anything stupid, here is your phone and thanks for the money. Nothing wrong with covering your ass just in case.

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DaveLister

where does it say it was bought after the real phone?



He defo got the dummy AFTER buying mine!

maybe he is planning on giving it as a gift and giving the person the dummy phone 1st for a wind up

DJNG22

I would be very careful, I would also email the guy advising that you … I would be very careful, I would also email the guy advising that you have seen the fact he has purchased this dummy phone and note the item number in the email, this will make him think twice regarding even trying to con you. If it innocent then so be it, it is not as if you are every going to talk to him again anyway and you have his money.




Surely this is a bit rude seeing as he hasnt done anything yet, could be a scammer but could also have a genuine reason for buying it.

I've bought my daughter a dummy version of my phone before, because kids always want what you've got, maybe this is what he has done? He hasn't actually done anything wrong yet, but yes, I would agree that it does seem a bit suspicious. EBay have a telephone support line which you can call, it may be worth just sounding this out an Ebay Representative before anything untoward happens. The call will be recorded/monitored as well so it will be on your file.

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DJNG22

Who buys a dummy version of the phone to see if they like it? Never heard … Who buys a dummy version of the phone to see if they like it? Never heard anything so ludicrous.How can a quick message be borderline stalking? Basically it is saying look numb nuts, I got your number, dont try anything stupid, here is your phone and thanks for the money. Nothing wrong with covering your ass just in case.


loads of people do, why do you think they have dummy phones in phone shops? so people can see what the phone is like

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Jumpingphil

"Sold my mobile phone on Ebay for a decent some of money, sent special … "Sold my mobile phone on Ebay for a decent some of money, sent special delivery etc... ""he has just purchased a 'dummy' "


didn't notice that bit, unless this guy is mistaken and the seller has only just left the buyer feedback for the dummy phone. either way i'd still wait to do anything

DaveLister

loads of people do, why do you think they have dummy phones in phone … loads of people do, why do you think they have dummy phones in phone shops? so people can see what the phone is like



But noone actually buys dummy phones. I have never decided on what phone to get by looking at the dummy ones either.

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micoo

But noone actually buys dummy phones. I have never decided on what phone … But noone actually buys dummy phones. I have never decided on what phone to get by looking at the dummy ones either.


i know 2 people who have, obviously not for a stupid amount of money but £2-3 is nothing. costs more than that to get to town and park. you'd think no one over the age of 10 would get their mum to bake them a cake for a competition but it happens

DaveLister

i know 2 people who have, obviously not for a stupid amount of money but … i know 2 people who have, obviously not for a stupid amount of money but £2-3 is nothing. costs more than that to get to town and park. you'd think no one over the age of 10 would get their mum to bake them a cake for a competition but it happens



Aww, that did make me giggle.

DaveLister

i know 2 people who have, obviously not for a stupid amount of money but … i know 2 people who have, obviously not for a stupid amount of money but £2-3 is nothing. costs more than that to get to town and park. you'd think no one over the age of 10 would get their mum to bake them a cake for a competition but it happens



Then the poeople you know are retards, why pay for a dummy phone when you can simply saunter into the local shop when you are near and play with the real thing. (I baked the cake btw)

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micoo

Then the poeople you know are retards, why pay for a dummy phone when you … Then the poeople you know are retards, why pay for a dummy phone when you can simply saunter into the local shop when you are near and play with the real thing. (I baked the cake btw)


i did just explain why

DaveLister

i did just explain why



you said cos its cheaper than going to town, but i said do it if your already in town

either way its a side issue, who the **** buys a phone if they have only held a dummy?

Perhaps he is planning on reselling it. Could be using the dummy for the shop window.

Original Poster

I think I will leave it and see what develops.
Some interesting points raised on here though so thanks for all your help.

has the buyer recieved your phone yet ? if so have they not left feedback ? i would wait and see if they leave feedback over the next day or so .........if they dont then maybe start to worry ! good luck and hope it is just a case of buying a dummy for kids or something !

yeah OP dont let on to the buyer that you have any suspicions. But you could always send a polite follow up email saying that you hope he likes it and that you have all the serial number etc in case he needs it.

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s_paul

yeah OP dont let on to the buyer that you have any suspicions. But you … yeah OP dont let on to the buyer that you have any suspicions. But you could always send a polite follow up email saying that you hope he likes it and that you have all the serial number etc in case he needs it.



That sounds like a good idea. that way it seems more polite and doesn't let him know I have any idea about what his motives may, or may not be!

Jumpingphil

Am I missing something here?A few people have mentioned taking serial … Am I missing something here?A few people have mentioned taking serial numbers and photos and security marking the phone.How does that help?After all, the OP could have sent a dummy phone himself.I'm not casting doubts on you Norfolk, but I just don't understand how having that info could help you.Please someone enlighten me in a friendly way.



It probably couldnt do anything, but if the buyer believes that the op has all this info they may think twice about trying to scam him. Even if the OP blags it and doesnt have that info the buyer doesnt know.

Original Poster

Here we go!
Buyer has just started a paypal claim saying 'the earpiece is faulty', wants a full refund!
I have just sent all my proof of suspected fraud to paypal and said I will contact the police if the phone I receive back is a 'dummy'.

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I would email him saying it was working perfectly when it left you and as it has taken a week anything could have happened in that time. Ask him to get a quote for repair from a local shop and see what he says.

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in fact, as a way of letting him know you know what he's doing, you could mention that sometimes dummy phones have earpieces in them, would he not be able to use that one

Knowing Ebay and Paypal they will probably still side with him.

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norfolk_enchance

Here we go!Buyer has just started a paypal claim saying 'the earpiece is … Here we go!Buyer has just started a paypal claim saying 'the earpiece is faulty', wants a full refund!I have just sent all my proof of suspected fraud to paypal and said I will contact the police if the phone I receive back is a 'dummy'.



Nice response.

Hopefully the dumb **** will give up and remain out of pocket.
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