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    Should I buy a petrol or diesel car??

    Im looking to buy a used VW Golf 2014 model. Should I go for a petrol or diesel. The diesels are more efficient and are low on road tax and are a bit cheaper. But should I be getting a diesel considering the changes the government will bring soon?

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    Depend so if you want to try and live with a DPF and other modern diesel quirks.

    These days I would go for petrol unless you do a lot of miles....

    Petrol unless you do big mileage. These Dpf filters have spoilt diesel engines.

    Petrol.. Unless you are blasting up and down a motorway and high mileage your just waiting for problems with a low mileage diesel car.. I had 2 and never again, both had DPF and other issues... Plus the way the government is going against diesel cars I think they will loose value..

    Petrol...ain't you been listening to the news? I ain't but I've heard £10 extra to drive in the congestion charge zone and more expensive parking and if you ain't doing 15 - 20k miles or more per year there's no benefit to diesel.
    Edited by: "jg213" 19th Feb

    I think the Government will be dragged to the courts if they come down too hard on diesel cars as they strongly encouraged us to buy them.

    What is going to happen to all the diesel lorries?

    jg213

    Petrol...ain't you been listening to the news? I ain't but I've heard £10 … Petrol...ain't you been listening to the news? I ain't but I've heard £10 extra to drive in the congestion charge zone and more expensive parking and if you ain't doing 15 - 20k miles or more per year there's no benefit to diesel.



    For pre 2006 diesel cars...

    I've always had petrol, but now have diesel. I wish I changed earlier. I'm never going back to petrol, I get so many more miles out of a tank.

    Original Poster

    Thanks for all the replies. Im just thinking if i get a diesel, the value will drop really quickly if the government decide to get rid of all diesel cars by 2025 in London and other cities. I think diesels have already lost value because Golf diesels seem to be cheaper than petrols.

    I think to be on the safe side, il just got for the petrol.

    I only do 6k a year on my diesel... Typically get around 550 miles out of a tank which lasts me a month and costs around £50-55 depending on price. I'd say only 25% of that is motorway miles... No issues yet (30k in). Owned from new.
    Edited by: "DarrylJohn" 19th Feb

    d84rk_knight

    Thanks for all the replies. Im just thinking if i get a diesel, the value … Thanks for all the replies. Im just thinking if i get a diesel, the value will drop really quickly if the government decide to get rid of all diesel cars by 2025 in London and other cities. I think diesels have already lost value because Golf diesels seem to be cheaper than petrols.I think to be on the safe side, il just got for the petrol.



    In 8 years time, how much do you hope to recoup from a petrol?

    Fair enough if going new... but I really wouldn't let a potential issue in 8 years time put you off a diesel now.

    Good chance you'll get a decent trade in for an electric in 2025... Government schemes no doubt.

    Edited by: "DarrylJohn" 19th Feb

    Do all these people that go on about DPF own a diesel and have that problem or is it a friend of a friend had a problem once. I've owned 3 diesel cars since 2010 and never once had a problem with them. I do around 5k a year which is town use apart from maybe two 360mile round trips a year.

    Petrol. Diesels generate Nitrogen oxides fumes which are noxious in a closed cabin environment (unless you keep your windows down all the time)

    dush_yant

    Petrol. Diesels generate Nitrogen oxides fumes which are noxious in a … Petrol. Diesels generate Nitrogen oxides fumes which are noxious in a closed cabin environment (unless you keep your windows down all the time)


    Yeah, I've died in mine like 6 times.

    dush_yant

    Petrol. Diesels generate Nitrogen oxides fumes which are noxious in a … Petrol. Diesels generate Nitrogen oxides fumes which are noxious in a closed cabin environment (unless you keep your windows down all the time)



    ​wondered what that smell was....doh! wot a load of tosh.

    Poppyj1

    Do all these people that go on about DPF own a diesel and have that … Do all these people that go on about DPF own a diesel and have that problem or is it a friend of a friend had a problem once. I've owned 3 diesel cars since 2010 and never once had a problem with them. I do around 5k a year which is town use apart from maybe two 360mile round trips a year.



    ​Never had problem either.

    dush_yant

    Petrol. Diesels generate Nitrogen oxides fumes which are noxious in a … Petrol. Diesels generate Nitrogen oxides fumes which are noxious in a closed cabin environment (unless you keep your windows down all the time)



    Petrol engine fumes, on the other hand, are lovely though..lol

    Buy any petrol car with an LPG conversion. You have a choice whether to use petrol or LPG at a touch of a button. LPG is cheaper, and if you want something powerful means you can run a luxury big engine car for small car money .

    Proveright

    Buy any petrol car with an LPG conversion. You have a choice whether … Buy any petrol car with an LPG conversion. You have a choice whether to use petrol or LPG at a touch of a button. LPG is cheaper, and if you want something powerful means you can run a luxury big engine car for small car money .



    Lpg ruins engines

    10k+ diesel
    <10k petrol

    dush_yant

    Petrol. Diesels generate Nitrogen oxides fumes which are noxious in a … Petrol. Diesels generate Nitrogen oxides fumes which are noxious in a closed cabin environment (unless you keep your windows down all the time)



    ​Maybe true, if you have a hose pipe from the exhaust into the cabin. Should be fine for those of us not trying to top ourselves though.

    For the first time in 20 years I bought a diesel car and straight away there's a difference. Cheaper road tax and more mpg. I wouldn't worry too much about the DPF, as long as the car is driven at high revs (motorway etc) every now and again. Also by 2025, the car probably wouldn't be worth that much too be considered a big loss.

    gpawan

    Lpg ruins engines



    ​so does diesel and petrol if u don't look after them. not really sure if the lpg ruins them or they get ruined anyway few guys have had there engines replaced who were running lpg but at 300k+ the petrol engine probably would have gone aswell

    really depends on ur mileage don't forget diesels cost more to service aswell and repair if anything does go wrong but

    donaldduck2

    I think the Government will be dragged to the courts if they come down … I think the Government will be dragged to the courts if they come down too hard on diesel cars as they strongly encouraged us to buy them.What is going to happen to all the diesel lorries?,,



    Buses,trains,taxis,ships(these all seem to left running most of their time for little justifiable reason),generators etc.

    what about electric car like the Nissan leaf if u got off road parking u could even try that lease deal advertising on hotukdeals

    "Lpg ruins engines ".

    Absolute rubbish . LPG burns at a slightly higher temperature and is a cleaner fuel. The spark plugs dont get clogged up so easily and last longer and the emissions are less , so no problems with an MOT test.
    Most set ups start up on petrol then when warm enough switch over to gas. In my experience there is no difference in how long an engine will last .

    Proveright

    "Lpg ruins engines ".Absolute rubbish . LPG burns at a slightly higher … "Lpg ruins engines ".Absolute rubbish . LPG burns at a slightly higher temperature and is a cleaner fuel. The spark plugs dont get clogged up so easily and last longer and the emissions are less , so no problems with an MOT test. Most set ups start up on petrol then when warm enough switch over to gas. In my experience there is no difference in how long an engine will last .



    It is actually quite harsh on an engine but if fitted properly should be fine

    Dpf is only an issue if you tootle about and never give your car any throttle. Ive got a diesel wi a dpf which does mostly town driving and short journeys. I do the same long journey twice a month and theres a nice long straight which i hold it in fourth flat out for about a mile.

    This is enough to clear out a dpf filter they are not as big an issue as people make out

    craigstephens

    ​Maybe true, if you have a hose pipe from the exhaust into the cabin. S … ​Maybe true, if you have a hose pipe from the exhaust into the cabin. Should be fine for those of us not trying to top ourselves though.


    I used to think the same but the way Nitrogen oxides dissipate means it will invariably come into the cabin.

    Poppyj1

    Do all these people that go on about DPF own a diesel and have that … Do all these people that go on about DPF own a diesel and have that problem or is it a friend of a friend had a problem once. I've owned 3 diesel cars since 2010 and never once had a problem with them. I do around 5k a year which is town use apart from maybe two 360mile round trips a year.



    Had a diesel 59 VW Golf since 2011-egr needed replacing last year after going into limp mode on several occasions, despite doing daily motorway mileage. Quoted £1400 from vw to fix. Eventually fixed for £600 by vw after a 'goodwill' gesture. My car is part of the emissions scandal. Seriously considering petrol for the next car...

    dush_yant

    I used to think the same but the way Nitrogen oxides dissipate means it … I used to think the same but the way Nitrogen oxides dissipate means it will invariably come into the cabin.



    ​OK, will a tin foil helmet like yours protect me?

    Mermoo

    Had a diesel 59 VW Golf since 2011-egr needed replacing last year after … Had a diesel 59 VW Golf since 2011-egr needed replacing last year after going into limp mode on several occasions, despite doing daily motorway mileage. Quoted £1400 from vw to fix. Eventually fixed for £600 by vw after a 'goodwill' gesture. My car is part of the emissions scandal. Seriously considering petrol for the next car...



    Mistake there was
    A) going to VW to get it fixed
    B) not getting the EGR valve removed and deleted entirely.
    C) buying a VW

    EGR valves are like your appendix. The car doesn't need it to run, and all it does is cause problems. It's a slice of EU red tape in your engine which they don't contribute to the cost of when it goes wrong.

    Always said if the EGR valve or DPF ever fail in my mondeo, they are being removed - unless the EU wants to contribute towards the cost of getting it replaced.
    Edited by: "118luke" 20th Feb

    I have had a lpg car which did 325000 miles before losing traction a valve s40
    Had diesel cars since 2008 only two diesel cars gave me trouble a mazda6 2005 & Ford cmax 1.6 2005
    Never had a problem with any vag car and I have had 6/7
    But if u are in London then I would only go green any other city diesel all the way

    118luke

    Mistake there was A) going to VW to get it fixedB) not getting the EGR … Mistake there was A) going to VW to get it fixedB) not getting the EGR valve removed and deleted entirely.C) buying a VWEGR valves are like your appendix. The car doesn't need it to run, and all it does is cause problems. It's a slice of EU red tape in your engine which they don't contribute to the cost of when it goes wrong.Always said if the EGR valve or DPF ever fail in my mondeo, they are being removed - unless the EU wants to contribute towards the cost of getting it replaced.



    you'll have to find a dodgy MOT station if you remove the DPF as its part of the test.

    Edited by: "paulj48" 20th Feb

    And remember always treat ur cars as ur women u don't trust them their egr get clogged
    U take them to designer shops they will bankrupt u
    Etc etc u got the point

    paulj48

    you'll have to find a dodgy MOT station if you remove the DPF as its not … you'll have to find a dodgy MOT station if you remove the DPF as its not part of the test.



    ​No u don't when they use term delete it means it delete egr from ecu
    I deleted mine n mine got mot'd in Belfast where u can't get dodgy ones

    Poppyj1

    Do all these people that go on about DPF own a diesel and have that … Do all these people that go on about DPF own a diesel and have that problem or is it a friend of a friend had a problem once. I've owned 3 diesel cars since 2010 and never once had a problem with them. I do around 5k a year which is town use apart from maybe two 360mile round trips a year.


    I've had issues with a 2012 Insignia doing motorway work, DPF lights coming on and the engine pressure sensor failing twice (expensive to change as its part of the glowplug) and an exhaust pressure map sensor replaced all blamed by the garage due to driving style. Wife drives on the motorway but as its got 6 gears then 70mph is 2000 revs.
    Edited by: "paulj48" 20th Feb

    paulj48

    you'll have to find a dodgy MOT station if you remove the DPF as its part … you'll have to find a dodgy MOT station if you remove the DPF as its part of the test.


    Only if you remove it totally, You can hollow them out and it will 100% pass MOT :).

    shauneco

    Only if you remove it totally, You can hollow them out and it will 100% … Only if you remove it totally, You can hollow them out and it will 100% pass MOT :).


    This will cause it to smoke more and possibly fail the emissions and is pretty obvious to the MOT tester, whether they turn a blind eye or fail you is obviously the risk you take.
    Edited by: "paulj48" 20th Feb

    paulj48

    This will cause it to smoke more and possibly fail the emissions and is … This will cause it to smoke more and possibly fail the emissions and is pretty obvious to the MOT tester, whether they turn a blind eye or fail you is obviously the risk you take.


    No it won't, It may possibly minimally smoke a tiny bit more, For a diesel to fail a smoke test there would have to be something drastically wrong with the engine, It's harder to fail than pass.

    It's not an emission test like petrol and if hollowed out under current mot conditions it would pass 99.9% of the time.
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