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Signing on Weekly for JSA? Why?

My sister has just finished a 5 year course at uni, well two months ago. Haven't been able to find any work in the health sector for which she is qualified.

She has finally decided to sign on (she has no choice), but has been told to sign on weekly at the job centre?

Does anyone know why? When i signed on for a month when i left college three years ago i didnt, and anyone i know who has signed on for it hasnt.

She actually is actively seeking a job like mad, not like the folk who just want to live on benefits.

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i think they change it from time to time, i know someone who signed on fortnightly but at some point he changed to weekly for a bit then back to fortnightly.

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CuteKitty26

i think they change it from time to time, i know someone who signed on … i think they change it from time to time, i know someone who signed on fortnightly but at some point he changed to weekly for a bit then back to fortnightly.



I can only read that they do it after 13 weeks, not from the start. Seems very strange.

I had this for a while, basically its a way to check they are looking for jobs and to "motivate" you.

It's at their discretion, it could be to motivate, MFA if they suspect the claimaint is working..any reason. I used to work as a signer, lol.

I blame the conservatives...maggie thatcher back with vengence!!!

not sure why it matters tbh

if u had to sign on 5 times a week would it really matter,its just there way of making sure ur actively seeking employment,things are going to be getting alot tougher for people on jsa,eventually people will be asked to do a job they dont want or would rather not do as its not what they,ve put down in there seached box,times are coming when people wont have a choice dont do a job we send u too,then u wont get any benifits

never been on the dole, but seriously only sign once a week? what about the rest of the 6 days?

dolers should be forced to sign 7am on crack of dawn and return at 6pm sunset sign again on the same day with proof of job hunting before they are handed the wanga.

every day, twice a day- watch the jsa claims vanish in no time

this country too soft

tut tut

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sedd33

never been on the dole, but seriously only sign once a week? what about … never been on the dole, but seriously only sign once a week? what about the rest of the 6 days?dolers should be forced to sign 7am on crack of dawn and return at 6pm sunset sign again on the same day with proof of job hunting before they are handed the wanga.every day, twice a day- watch the jsa claims vanish in no timethis country too softtut tut



lol what kind of planet are you living on? do you honestly think they have the resources for that? do you know how many people are claiming jsa and how many attend any one jobcentre?

nice idea, but would never work.

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Nice to see to see the usual "dole haters" about, have a look how many occupational therapy jobs are about.

None of her class mates have been able to find jobs.

This isnt the normal case of "16 year old council scum who cant be bothered to work".

How can a whole uni class not be able to find jobs, shes motivated to do the jobs, signed on for the nursebanks etc!

chillyyyy, JSA are a joke, the job centre are a joke, i dont know anyone they have actually helped. When i was unemployed it was "you look for jobs, fine, get out, see you in two weeks" No actual help.

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sedd33

never been on the dole, but seriously only sign once a week? what about … never been on the dole, but seriously only sign once a week? what about the rest of the 6 days?dolers should be forced to sign 7am on crack of dawn and return at 6pm sunset sign again on the same day with proof of job hunting before they are handed the wanga.every day, twice a day- watch the jsa claims vanish in no timethis country too softtut tut



Hope you never need someone who has trained for 5 years to help other people out. Well done you.

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michelleleemoo

not sure why it matters tbh



Because its a pain in the ass when the job centre are useless in the first place. They didnt even let her list the job she wants and what she is trained in.

Yet everyone else in her course who has signed in has been able too. Out of the 3 jobs she was made to put down, not one was occupational therapy related.

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chillyyyy

if u had to sign on 5 times a week would it really matter,its just there … if u had to sign on 5 times a week would it really matter,its just there way of making sure ur actively seeking employment,things are going to be getting alot tougher for people on jsa,eventually people will be asked to do a job they dont want or would rather not do as its not what they,ve put down in there seached box,times are coming when people wont have a choice dont do a job we send u too,then u wont get any benifits



Im worried if your telling people about jobs, and giving careers advice when your writing is that bad.

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dcx_badass

What if they use public transport and it costs them say £3 return each … What if they use public transport and it costs them say £3 return each time, that's £6 a day * 7 = £42 a week in transport, as you only get £~55 then you'd have £13 after costs, or would you increase JSA by £42 to cover it?



not forgetting the other issues like if you have kids having to get them up and ready, or maybe not getting them to school on time, paying their bus fares, having to have the evening meal either very early or late etc etc.

anyway sedd33 is just a troll who pops into threads, spouts rubbish then never returns to back up anything he says, so just ignore him

Which aspect of the health sector is your sister qualified in?, some areas are actively recruiting in decent numbers.

greenmachine12

Im worried if your telling people about jobs, and giving careers advice … Im worried if your telling people about jobs, and giving careers advice when your writing is that bad.

i do apologise for my spelling it was never my strong point at school,i feel this goverment has,nt even started with the unemployed yet,i feel there gonna hit everyone on benifits hard,and the knock on affect wont kick in unto the turn of the financial year comes in.

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DKLS

Which aspect of the health sector is your sister qualified in?, some … Which aspect of the health sector is your sister qualified in?, some areas are actively recruiting in decent numbers.



Occupational Therapy.

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chillyyyy

i do apologise for my spelling it was never my strong point at school,i … i do apologise for my spelling it was never my strong point at school,i feel this goverment has,nt even started with the unemployed yet,i feel there gonna hit everyone on benifits hard,and the knock on affect wont kick in unto the turn of the financial year comes in.



To the wasters that are doing it for a free life yes, people who genuinely want work, or have lose their jobs its not on.

You cant brand everyone who is unemployed and on the dole the same, the people that have been on it years yes.

so many hospital wards are closing down, meaning people are looseing jobs.

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Kitten13

so many hospital wards are closing down, meaning people are looseing jobs.



According to some of the good folks on here, they must be wasters and want a free ride on benefits.

greenmachine12

Occupational Therapy.



Tell her to get onto LinkedIn, there are a quite a few OT jobs advertised at the mo, obviously dependant on location, also get her to join the various groups linked to OT on their and network like crazy.



greenmachine12

Nice to see to see the usual "dole haters" about, have a look how many … Nice to see to see the usual "dole haters" about, have a look how many occupational therapy jobs are about. None of her class mates have been able to find jobs.This isnt the normal case of "16 year old council scum who cant be bothered to work".How can a whole uni class not be able to find jobs, shes motivated to do the jobs, signed on for the nursebanks etc!chillyyyy, JSA are a joke, the job centre are a joke, i dont know anyone they have actually helped. When i was unemployed it was "you look for jobs, fine, get out, see you in two weeks" No actual help.



Im not a 'hater' as you call people but i still have no sympathy for her. I graduated in November but because I knew there were very few jobs in my chosen field I decided that I would rather apply for jobs outside it as well rather than turn to JSA.

I might be pointing out the obvious....
http://www.jobs.nhs.uk/cgi-bin/advsearch

Good luck to your sister it must be very frustrating for her.

Also worth exploring if there are any IAPT practitioner vacancies as a lot of her skills would be transferable, albeit with some on the job training.

bellabonkers

I might be pointing out the … I might be pointing out the obvious....[url=http://www.jobs.nhs.uk/cgi-bin/advsearch]http://www.jobs.nhs.uk/cgi-bin/advsearch[/url]Good luck to your sister it must be very frustrating for her.



Alot of the time though, they are getting 300+ applications for each job.

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dh058977

Im not a 'hater' as you call people but i still have no sympathy for her. … Im not a 'hater' as you call people but i still have no sympathy for her. I graduated in November but because I knew there were very few jobs in my chosen field I decided that I would rather apply for jobs outside it as well rather than turn to JSA.



She has been applying for other jobs aswell, she finished her course on the second week of december. I do not thinking waiting untill the last week of feb to sign on is that bad.

Mod & Ed

in b4 the sanctimonious comments

too late

op I really feel for your sister, I know nurses ( ex colleagues ) who have worked in the nhs for over 25 yrs ( 30 in some cases ) who are very concerned about their jobs at the mo, my oh's niece has recently qualified as a physio, she was very lucky and found employment where she did work experience, but over half her class still have not found jobs in their field.
Edited by: "wishihadadonkey" 24th Feb 2011

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DKLS

Tell her to get onto LinkedIn, there are a quite a few OT jobs advertised … Tell her to get onto LinkedIn, there are a quite a few OT jobs advertised at the mo, obviously dependant on location, also get her to join the various groups linked to OT on their and network like crazy.



Isnt that a bit like facebook?

Thanks for the people who put sensible replies :-)

Kitten13

Alot of the time though, they are getting 300+ applications for each job.



I know...I work for the NHS...I've seen jobs disappear before I can even apply since as they withdraw them after a certain number of applicants.

greenmachine12

To the wasters that are doing it for a free life yes, people who … To the wasters that are doing it for a free life yes, people who genuinely want work, or have lose their jobs its not on.You cant brand everyone who is unemployed and on the dole the same, the people that have been on it years yes.

this is why the goverment will make u take any old job,this for most people wont be a problem as those who want to work will do any job until they find the right one,those that dont well they will have there benifits cut,i do feel this will not be easy,as quite alot of people need a set income to pay the bills.

greenmachine12

She has been applying for other jobs aswell, she finished her course on … She has been applying for other jobs aswell, she finished her course on the second week of december. I do not thinking waiting untill the last week of feb to sign on is that bad.



Thats good, hopefully the jobcentre wont force her to apply for anything and everything. I guess I was just lucky finding a job almost straight away doing what I wanted to do. Although im going to interviews and applying even now!

I suppose it could also be another way of massaging the jobseeker figures.
Someone who has trained for 5 years hardly wants to end up in a job with no propspects. But if they are hassled enough I guess they may decide not to sign. Whoopie doo da - another signer must now be working if they are not signing.
Maybe its a way of encouraging work for free as so many other interns seem to have to do these days - or a chance to take part in the big society.

I really hope things work out for your sister soon. Anyone with half a brain knows that the NHS is being slimmed down.


Edited by: "WoolyM" 24th Feb 2011

WoolyM

I suppose it could also be another way of massaging the jobseeker … I suppose it could also be another way of massaging the jobseeker figures. Someone who has trained for 5 years hardly wants to end up in a job with no propspects. But if they are hassled enough I guess they may decide not to sign. Whoopie doo da - another signer must now be working if they are not signing. Maybe its a way of encouraging work for free as so many other interns seem to have to do these days - or a chance to take part in the bit society.I really hope things work out for your sister soon. Anyone with half a brain knows that the NHS is being slimmed down.



All the PCT staff are trying to be absorbed into the local hospitals so that also makes things a lot harder at the moment as well.

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Has your sister asked the JC why?

After thought......hmmn not just working for free but working for free in the newly privatised health service.
Got to do all you can to maximise profits for Andrew Lansley

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DLM

Has your sister asked the JC why?



No not yet, she thought it was normal.

greenmachine12

Isnt that a bit like facebook?Thanks for the people who put sensible … Isnt that a bit like facebook?Thanks for the people who put sensible replies :-)



Yes its like a professional version of facebook, great for career networking, job searching etc, and you dont get any of the twaddle that you get on facebook.

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greenmachine12

No not yet, she thought it was normal.



Maybe she has asked for extra help or they might think she needs it.

Most benefit claimers get paid fortnightly now (my bro works in JCP)

They sign on one week get paid the next.

Imcome support is fortnightly too now. (at one time they asked how you preffered it)

I hope the people who voted Conservatives are bearing the brunt as much as me and other genuine people. I have been off work since July and had £983 taken out of my pay in September as they dont pay SSP anymore if you have claimed it in last 12 months. I am all for cutting benefits for lazy **** but not for genuine people

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