Smart light switch without neutral
Looking to move over to smart bulbs, however realised I would need smart light switches so I can still control the bulbs if someone has turned off the light switch.
The majority of the switches i've seen all require a neutral wire, which none of mine have. Just wondering how people have overcome this?
Closest i've found is the Energenie MIHO024 Mi|Home Light Switch which will also require the dedicated hub. However they only appear to be single light swicthes and for one switch I want to replace it has two switches.
I have seen the SESOO light switches on Banggood, which look really nice and have a variety of sizes. It appears to control via an app the require the SONOFF bridge. As this will be RF to the bridge, any idea what the range would be like? Im in a 3 story house, would the light switch on the top floor reach the bridge on the bottom floor?
Any tips or advice greatly appreciated!
The majority of the switches i've seen all require a neutral wire, which none of mine have. Just wondering how people have overcome this?
Closest i've found is the Energenie MIHO024 Mi|Home Light Switch which will also require the dedicated hub. However they only appear to be single light swicthes and for one switch I want to replace it has two switches.
I have seen the SESOO light switches on Banggood, which look really nice and have a variety of sizes. It appears to control via an app the require the SONOFF bridge. As this will be RF to the bridge, any idea what the range would be like? Im in a 3 story house, would the light switch on the top floor reach the bridge on the bottom floor?
Any tips or advice greatly appreciated!
Mainly the hallway - When people stay over and need to get up in the night, instead of having to faff around with their phone to switch them on, they can use the switch.
Not looking at the option of motion sensors at the moment either.
Hue does have dimmer switches as well
Ah brilliant, thank you. Do you have any that you could reccomend?
So frustarting that the Energenie MIHO024 Mi|Home dosn't do a two way switch!
I had a brief look at Fibaro as saw that mentioned a lot, however got confused by how to actually implement it!
Screwfix do a large range I think Link
with the hue system, you need the hub, the expensive bulbs and then also switches for it to work.
Thanks for that. Don't suppose you have a link for the wired version as only seem to be able to locate the wireless version online.
i think its these but im waiting for a price drop. with these, you can keep your existing lighting but still have smart control without losing the wall switch. these are the double switch version but theres also the single switch version.
gearbest.com/ala…tml
some of the xiaomi stuff does work with samsung smart things hub but again. its whether people have developed software for the hub to get certain xiaomi devices working.
Brillaint, thanks for that. Certainly given me another avenue to look down.
I have also seen I LumoS Luxury Black Glass Panel LED WIFI RF On/Off Touch Light Switches which comes with a variety of colours/styles/ gangs, looks very sleek and reasonably priced. Does require the Broadlink RM Pro hub.
Work great with alexa too so I can tell alexa to dim, turn of etc as well as through the iphone app.
Only downside is they don't work with LED lights or more then 250 watts
I think to keep things simple, and reasonably cheap! im going to go with the hue light switch. I've since found several adadpter plates you can buy to make it more attractive!
ebay.co.uk/itm…y01
So I but the Hue bridge and Hue light switches.
On the landing I will use IKEA GU10's as they are the right size, a decent price and from what i've read can be picked up and controlled by hue.
However for the coloured GU10's I want to use in one room, how would I get it so they are controlled by the hue light switch? Do most bulbs pair with the hue bridge? (I've searched but can't seem to see these ones mentioned). Would I need to buy something like Samsung SmartThings to asssist with this?
It looks like a good product and could be an alternative to alternative to the Hue but reviews are mixed and not sure if it will work in U.K.
the ikea lights are available in the hue app and can be configured for the light switch the same way as hue bulbs
Id be willing to bet reading the description by it saying there is a blue led indicator light when light is off, that it won’t work without neutral.
Thats great to read, cheers Danny. Unfortunatly Ikea is quite a way from me, so would have to order online. If push comes to shove then i'd get the Ikea hub as luckily it doesnt seem that expensive.
Any idea on other 3rd party bulbs? These are the standard size GU10 colour ones i've been looking at the and reviews/youtube clips i've seen give them the thumbs up.
amazon.co.uk/Goo…rch
I need 5 for the downstairs room, so going with the official hue ones would work out pricey as i'd also have to look at getting deeper fittings to house the bulbs. If there was someway I could get those to work with the hue dimmer switch then it would make life a lot simplier and cheaper!
Also, for the Ikea bulbs, did you get the £7 or £12 ones?
Yeah the hub is an option too, I’m debating getting one also.
as for other bulbs I’ve not tested any others, have a look into Samsung smartthings as I think that is a way you can tie in all different standard bulbs on a network and use their switches and sensors. If you can’t get the bulb into the hue app you can’t use the dimmer.
Finally for the Ikea £7 or £12 it depends where you are putting them. The £7 are just dimable white I used them fine in the kitchen/bathroom but I don’t think they’d be suitable for living room mood lighting. The £12 do dimable White from cool to warm tones. I will say they they don’t dim as low as the Phillips but for their price they are good quality!