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    Snooker Fans - Opinions on Power Snooker?

    Lazy day off so have started watching Power snooker currently showing on bbc4, what do people think of it? Personally i don't really know what to make of it!

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    Just started to watch it now and its a good job I have sky+ so I can go back over the rules again.

    It looks like it could be a good format once you get used to the rules but snooker has been dead on its feet for many years so it needs something to revive it but we will have a better idea when we have seen different players having a go and this is a a great oppertunity to see the new talent that is Luca Brecel.

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    zezlez

    Just started to watch it now and its a good job I have sky+ so I can go … Just started to watch it now and its a good job I have sky+ so I can go back over the rules again.It looks like it could be a good format once you get used to the rules but snooker has been dead on its feet for many years so it needs something to revive it but we will have a better idea when we have seen different players having a go and this is a a great oppertunity to see the new talent that is Luca Brecel.



    LOL at ronnie swearing on live tv! Brecel showed alot of promise but i think he mad alot of stupid little mistakes in that game and sometimes he played a little too aggressively. The pink to the middle pocket being a good example, he played it far too fast.
    I've decided im really not a fan of the format, the sport has a big and loyal enough following already. I think that sometimes a few less frames are needed but thats about it.
    I can't think of any other sport where a revamp has been needed! A dart board has always been the same, pool has always been the same, golf, cricket etc etc so why does snooker have to have another variety?

    so what are the new rules for power snooker?

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    Eez1

    so what are the new rules for power snooker?



    powersnooker.com/rul…php

    lol those rules sound awesome.

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    whatsThePoint

    I think the trouble with snooker is no matter where in the world you play … I think the trouble with snooker is no matter where in the world you play its almost exactly the same table and conditions, so something like this that tries to spice it up a bit is going to be good for the game



    But why do you think it needs "spicing up" ?

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    whatsThePoint

    For the same reason millions of other have stopped watching, its getting … For the same reason millions of other have stopped watching, its getting boring Try thisgo out on the streets and ask people to name 5 snooker players, i bet very few will name someone who started playing in the last 5 years



    Although I think that could apply to quite a few sports including tennis, rugby or darts i do agree with you that the usual names would come up (white, ronnie, higgins etc).
    I dont think the game has got boring at all (although others obviously do!). I fail to see how if you have an interest in a sport it can suddenly become boring?
    Overall I do agree that something had to be done to please the majority losing interest in the game but I dont think power snooker is the answer.
    Edited by: "dh058977" 30th Oct 2010

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    ok that carter vs selby game was a little more exciting

    I know it's not Snooker. But this guy is just awesome

    Lots of other videos too.

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    DarkKnight

    I know it's not Snooker. But this guy is just awesomeLots of other videos … I know it's not Snooker. But this guy is just awesomeLots of other videos too.



    Me playing snooker
    The mrs playing snooker

    Yeah, were a special couple! lol

    dh058977

    I can't think of any other sport where a revamp has been needed! A dart … I can't think of any other sport where a revamp has been needed! A dart board has always been the same, pool has always been the same, golf, cricket etc etc so why does snooker have to have another variety?



    Cricket is not a good example.

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    Looks interesting. Will take a while to get used to but if it takes off I can see myself watching it.

    The game is the same as its always been, more so than almost any other sport. Its the modern day players who have ruined it, devoid of personality. There's not many likeable characters and also poor coverage from traditional media such as the BBC.

    Darts is the same game on BBC and Sky Sports but the way its presented to the audience in the latter is leagues ahead of the traditional BBC offering. The same with the BBC coverage of Formula 1, its insightful and caters for both dip in and hardcore viewers unlike the ITV coverage which was shocking.

    I think its more about how the game is presented to the public rather than changing the game itself, but obviously those selling the right for sport almost never chose the network that will give them the best coverage, just the network that offers the most money. The best example fo that is cricket. The 2005 test matches testify that, the country watching channel 4 for the ashes, it moved to sky and the popularity took a huge hit, which down the line has affected attendances at grounds.


    Edited by: "super_leeds_86" 30th Oct 2010

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    whatsThePoint

    Snooker = 1 variety + power nowDart board at least 6 types of board,even … Snooker = 1 variety + power nowDart board at least 6 types of board,even if not used for profession matchs that i know ofhttp://www.darts501.com/Boards.htmPool, lots of different ways of playingGolf, lots of different courses and ways of playingCricket, 20/20 football 5 a sidethe list goes on and on of snooker until now being one of the few games that hasn't got another way of playing it



    There are many different games to play within snooker on a standard table (as there are many varieties of other sports like you have shown) but I was refering to the professional game (cricket perhaps being a crappy example, athough I dont actually know anything about it! lol)

    Just taking into account the professional game we already have snooker, premiership snooker and now power snooker
    Edited by: "dh058977" 30th Oct 2010

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    whatsThePoint

    The other sports you mention have the small amount of time taken to play … The other sports you mention have the small amount of time taken to play in their favour, take F1 as another example, people are always complaining thats boring but the race only goes on for 2 hours at most and in that time something exciting usually does happen and if not well its only a couple of hours and its overBut maybe boring is the wrong word, perhaps its also down to people having a bigger choice of things to do not, at its peak you only had 4-5 channels to watch and no internet to occupy your time so even if you weren't the biggest fan, you watch because nothing else was on



    I completely agree with the time aspect. Thats why earlier I mentioned that I think maybe having less frames is a better idea than creating a whole new version of the game.
    I also had thought that implimenting the idea of a shot clock into the normal game would be a good idea but then how hard would it be to impose a new ruling into an already established game? Is it then easier to do as they have and create a new variety of the game?

    DarkKnight

    I know it's not Snooker. But this guy is just awesomeLots of other videos … I know it's not Snooker. But this guy is just awesomeLots of other videos too.



    Incredible. Only someone with some knowledge of snooker/pool could really appreciate just how awesome that is.

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    deek72

    Incredible. Only someone with some knowledge of snooker/pool could really … Incredible. Only someone with some knowledge of snooker/pool could really appreciate just how awesome that is.



    Not that impressed, after a couple they became samey. It's not that difficult to place objects just out of a ball's path while setting shot up which makes it look more impressive than it is. The one with all the glasses on the table is an example. Hit the ball round the table a few times to get the path right then places glasses around ball path. More impressive in that case would be to randomly place glasses then get him to avoid them first time.

    master_chief

    Not that impressed, after a couple they became samey. It's not that … Not that impressed, after a couple they became samey. It's not that difficult to place objects just out of a ball's path while setting shot up which makes it look more impressive than it is. The one with all the glasses on the table is an example. Hit the ball round the table a few times to get the path right then places glasses around ball path. More impressive in that case would be to randomly place glasses then get him to avoid them first time.



    Thanks for proving my point.

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    MC just made a good observation which makes perfect sense to anyone with knowledge of snooker...all the shots are edited, they don't run on continuously so how many attempts or how the shot was set up spoils the affect somewhat

    when John Virgo does his trick shots you see the whole thing, which is far more impressive in my book.

    Just watched a bit, seems like something me and my mate would dream up after a couple of beers. Could be exciting though, would hope it never 'takes over' the traditional game, but there's definitely a place for it. Might watch some more at 6

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    I remember that too, but for all we know they guy on the link could have had 99 failed attempts before getting it good enough to put on that vid.

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    whatsThePoint

    They already have less frames, world championship final used to be a lot … They already have less frames, world championship final used to be a lot more than first to 18 and first to 10 is about the max for everything else nowadaysYou could try having a stop watch in the normal game but i think the slower players would just give it a miss or maybe thats what snooker needs, fast, exciting. risk taking players only with prize money being rewarded by the amount of cheering done by the crowds for a brilliant shot



    I know they already do but is it enough? In a fast paced modern world do people really have enough time to sit down and watch 10 frames anymore? Or am i just thinking into this too much lol

    What's the max break? Just tried to work it out but it made my brain hurt

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    sancho1983

    What's the max break? Just tried to work it out but it made my brain hurt



    Well technically the highest break would be by potting the power ball red and then doing a 147 style break in the power ball time while always taking each shot from the baulk for quadruple points on each shot! LOL

    Obviously thats never going to happen so I dont actually know what the highest achievable break would be.
    Edited by: "dh058977" 30th Oct 2010

    That's pretty much the time my head started hurting. Plus a bonus for the century

    master_chief

    Not that impressed, after a couple they became samey. It's not that … Not that impressed, after a couple they became samey. It's not that difficult to place objects just out of a ball's path while setting shot up which makes it look more impressive than it is. The one with all the glasses on the table is an example. Hit the ball round the table a few times to get the path right then places glasses around ball path. More impressive in that case would be to randomly place glasses then get him to avoid them first time.



    You're not impressed?
    How many other people could pull off those shots?

    You wanted a randomly placed example, so here you go.... Link
    At around 3:10, a group of people places balls randomly. He then figures out where to shoot the ball and does it perfectly.

    I don't know why you can't say he is good? He is a multi-time world champion at his game. Won numerous world records. And was even the captain of FC Porto (Football) for a few years. So i would say he is pretty talented


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    deek72

    Thanks for proving my point.



    It's funny as I've been watching snooker about 25 years. I also watch a bit of pool and trick shot competitions and have played to an ok standard. I've just seen better trick shots in my time but he is a master of cue control. Th epoint I was making is are the shots in the video a result of expert trick shottery or more expert planning? We can't say for certain either way.

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    DarkKnight

    You're not impressed? How many other people could pull off those … You're not impressed? How many other people could pull off those shots?You wanted a randomly placed example, so here you go.... LinkAt around 3:10, a group of people places balls randomly. He then figures out where to shoot the ball and does it perfectly. I don't know why you can't say he is good? He is a multi-time world champion at his game. Won numerous world records. And was even the captain of FC Porto (Football) for a few years. So i would say he is pretty talented



    Yeah that's a better video. I'm not having a go about the guy, just that video.

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    whatsThePoint

    Last video wasn't that impressive, easy to set up most of them by hitting … Last video wasn't that impressive, easy to set up most of them by hitting the white ball round the table to see where it goes and then putting the yellow/red ball in place knowing where the white ball will finish when you place the same shot again



    That's what I was getting at. There's no doubt he has the talent but you need to see the set up, a bit of context etc. I could make a video of myself doing some magic tricks that would wow anyone who doesn't know what an edit is.

    master_chief

    Yeah that's a better video. I'm not having a go about the guy, just that … Yeah that's a better video. I'm not having a go about the guy, just that video.



    I see what you mean. I'm sure he had a few tries to get them right, but still, pulling off the shot is impressive enough.

    Snooker is quite a difficult game. Especially if you have some long shots/snookers to pull off.
    But watching three cushion billiards (Where you have to hit one ball, then hit three cushions before hitting the other ball) is extremely difficult and makes Snooker look like a starter. So you need to be very talented, and not rely on editing.

    Ive been watching bits off this. As the days gone on the audience seem more intoxicated. Should make an interesting final. Cant watch the final. It should be a good one though!
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