So how does this Game to HDD thingie work on xbox thats comin up?

surely microsoft has not just open its doors to piracy or is there some security things?

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well for one you will still need the actual game in the drive while you play it.

It will still spin up every few minutes and load the odd bit of data from the disc, so it's not going to literally rip the whole 4.7 gb disc to the hdd and play it from there, it will just use this as a cache to load a game much faster.

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the dandy p;3135409

well for one you will still need the actual game in the drive while you … well for one you will still need the actual game in the drive while you play it.



awww, was gonna make a big trip to blockbusters!!

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cheers, i get it now, rep added

i just think it's mainly microsoft responding to the outcry of the 360 being too loud, without actually redesigning a whole new model.

the dandy p;3135409

well for one you will still need the actual game in the drive while you … well for one you will still need the actual game in the drive while you play it.It will still spin up every few minutes and load the odd bit of data from the disc, so it's not going to literally rip the whole 4.7 gb disc to the hdd and play it from there, it will just use this as a cache to load a game much faster.



Well, thats entirely wrong.

It will rip the entire game off the disc and put it on the hdd. Games may be as big a 8gb.
The disk will have to be in there, but theres been no word on how often it will spin up apart from the initial disk check.

deathtrap3000;3135450

Well, thats entirely wrong. It will rip the entire game off the disc and … Well, thats entirely wrong. It will rip the entire game off the disc and put it on the hdd. Games may be as big a 8gb.The disk will have to be in there, but theres been no word on how often it will spin up apart from the initial disk check.



come on then...how do you know I was 'entirely wrong' if there is no word on it yet then?
And in what way is it entirely wrong? The only thing I said that could be disputed is that it will rip the ENTIRE disc to the hard drive.
Where did I state that a game would not be ripped to a hard drive?

the dandy p;3135456

come on then...how do you know I was 'entirely wrong' if there is no word … come on then...how do you know I was 'entirely wrong' if there is no word on it yet then?



ok not entirely wrong, just mostly.

deathtrap3000;3135474

ok not entirely wrong, just mostly.



and regarding what parts was I mostly wrong with?
At the moment you have basically said...
'this guy is wrong, but I don't know the answer yet, and neither does anybody else...in fact he might be correct'

You are seriously having a laugh if you think that the 360 won't spin at all once you have copied a game to the hdd.

i agree dandy ......... no1 would let you rip it onto HD without you needing disc otherwise you can borrow games then never buy the game

microsoft rely on game sales ..........

the dandy p;3135478

and regarding what parts was I mostly wrong with?At the moment you have … and regarding what parts was I mostly wrong with?At the moment you have basically said...'this guy is wrong, but I don't know the answer yet, and neither does anybody else...in fact he might be correct'You are seriously having a laugh if you think that the 360 won't spin at all once you have copied a game to the hdd.



Ill break it down for you then

'It will still spin up every few minutes'
might do might not, more likely not as there is no point. How do you know it will spin up at all after its been checked for legitimacy.

'and load the odd bit of data from the disc'
Which is wrong because all the data will already be on the hdd.

'so it's not going to literally rip the whole 4.7 gb disc to the hdd and play it from there, it will just use this as a cache to load a game much faster.'
Which is wrong because it does literally rip the whole disk to the hdd and play from there and also games can be up to 9gb. GTA4 alone is about 6.8gb.

So mostly wrong.
We will see who has the last laugh:-D

is this released?

november ish time i think

faevilangel;3135557

november ish time i think



yeh, here it says november seems likely, although not definate.
Before the end of the year though:joystiq.com/tag…rd/

Its all good then!

However as for ripping "back-ups" to the hard drive I dont see it taking too long for one of the teams to make a workaround that allows this, either a patch file or a kind of universal disc with the legitimacy check files from many games on it.

A sceptical side of me says that microsoft may not even be too bothered as although they wont be selling as many games if this happens they will be selling lots of 120gig drives at double what they should be based on the price of 2.5" sata drives and a housing for them.

So revenue lost on games sales will be made up on hard drive sales:thumbsup:

At least until someone finds a solid way of using external hard drives via USB anyway. If it can be coded it can be hacked, and theres plenty who enjoy doing that for the fun of the challenge:thumbsup:

You can already upgrade your hard drive with a bit of DIY, without flashing your XBOX or anything - theres a guide on here. I think it's about half the price of buying the 120GB drive.

Jelly;3136423

You can already upgrade your hard drive with a bit of DIY, without … You can already upgrade your hard drive with a bit of DIY, without flashing your XBOX or anything - theres a guide on here. I think it's about half the price of buying the 120GB drive.



True, but it still means buying the M$ overpriced 20 gigger:x Ideal solution would be someone to crack game loading via either usb or some interface utilising the 360's hard drive interface, this way you could copy files from the pc easily (not just dodgy games, im thinking music/video etc etc) and the limit is still a poxy 120 gigs Ive got an original xbox with 300 gigs in it:-D why the pathetic size limits?

I'm going to have to have a go at upgrading a 20gig drive to 120 though when the update arrives, i'm ok for now as ive got the 120 that came with my console, but storage for me is always an issue, why do we have to be restricted?

go to pcworld.com, there is a hack to make a 120 GB hard drive work with xbox360

it has to be the certain drive ...... you just need to add a file to the drive so the xbox can read it ......

its far cheaper than buying microsoft one

i will get link in a sec

pcworld.com/art…tml

harlzter;3139430

True, but it still means buying the M$ overpriced 20 gigger:x Ideal … True, but it still means buying the M$ overpriced 20 gigger:x Ideal solution would be someone to crack game loading via either usb or some interface utilising the 360's hard drive interface, this way you could copy files from the pc easily (not just dodgy games, im thinking music/video etc etc) and the limit is still a poxy 120 gigs Ive got an original xbox with 300 gigs in it:-D why the pathetic size limits?I'm going to have to have a go at upgrading a 20gig drive to 120 though when the update arrives, i'm ok for now as ive got the 120 that came with my console, but storage for me is always an issue, why do we have to be restricted?



I reckon the limit is because the XBOX will only recognize upto 120GB (because thats the highest capacity drive MS have released atm).

If I'm not mistaken, in the new 'fall' update, you'll be able to copy Music, Videos and Pictures from external sources (USB and Ethernet/WiFi) to the internal hard drive.

edit; Possibly from the DVD drive as well! (Doubtful though).
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