Found 16th May 2010
I got a letter from my son's school advising about a trip they are offering to Stockley farm. Lovely I thought. The cost is £7.50 for the day including travel. Not bad really.

However a month or so ago the kids all took part in a sponsored 'Jolly Jog' which raised in total £500, a percentage was donated to Sport relief with the rest going towards funding the nursery trip.

I can't fathom why they are charging so much when the admission to the farm is £7.00 without the group booking discount! I know that there is also the travel cost to add on, but I feel they are being a little cheeky because I would assume even if a large portion of the sponsorship money was given to sport relief there would still be at least £200 in the kitty for about 60 kids (over 2 trips), oh and we also have to provide packed lunches.

I am going to pay the cost because I wouldn't want him missing out, but I think it is a little on the cheeky side. Especially when I know that the rest of the school are going on day trips costing under £4.00, and when my neice attended the same nursery a couple of years ago they managed to take the kids, and any accompanying adults to Chester Zoo fro £3.00 per head!

Rant over LOL!

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If we were talking large sums of money, you might have a point.

Not sure I'd be whinging too much about a coach trip and admission costing 2 pints of beer.

Have you thought about asking for charity donations?

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guv;8622774

If we were talking large sums of money, you might have a point.Not sure … If we were talking large sums of money, you might have a point.Not sure I'd be whinging too much about a coach trip and admission costing 2 pints of beer.Have you thought about asking for charity donations?



I'm not really that bothered and the price is not really an issue, just think its a bit mean because of the amount of money they have already raised for it (supposedly). However may be an issue for a lot of other parents as the area is council estate with a lot of single parents on benefits (not me though!!), in particular there are a couple of families who have 2 kids attending the nursery.

Unfortunately, the cost of travel has really soared over the last couple of years, for that many children - and they will need a lot of adults to supervise if they are nursery age - it will be at least 2 coaches.

My sons going to a forest and they are charging us £6.75, expensive bus fair I guess!!!!, i think they charge enough to cover none payers too, because there is always some that never pay.

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are you assuming they kept £200 out of the £500 or do you know?

So....... 2 coaches... how much do you think hiring a coach for the day costs?... unless it's only down the road... in the region of £250 per coach.

Our School funds which have been raised from various activities subsidises each trip, but never pays for all of it. And we have over 22k in the bank from fundraising! (tight monkeys!)

jonb2412;8622816

So....... 2 coaches... how much do you think hiring a coach for the day … So....... 2 coaches... how much do you think hiring a coach for the day costs?... unless it's only down the road... in the region of £250 per coach.



agreed. Our school pay approx £220 for a 53 seater coach for a day trip

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With schools it's all about the money you think that's bad.........

DS2 school is awful and I can compare it with my DS1 school as he goes to another school, they use the same companies for stuff, for example.........

Hand made Christmas cards, ds1 school £2, ds2 school £8, for the same thing, same supplier!

DS2 always has non uniform days for donation of this, that or the other, has to be done, I don't mind as you do see the rewards, expensive business having kids in school!

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casparwhite;8622814

are you assuming they kept £200 out of the £500 or do you know?



Don't know for sure, but the original info was sponsorship money was for towards the trip, then on the day they said 'a small percentage will be donated towards sports relief' I am just hazarding a guess really because £300 out of the original £500 is more than I would consider a small percentage, but just estimating really. Even if more than half was given still leaves a nice little contribution to subsidise trip.

geegee-pinata;8622826

Our School funds which have been raised from various activities … Our School funds which have been raised from various activities subsidises each trip, but never pays for all of it. And we have over 22k in the bank from fundraising! (tight monkeys!)



Crikey that is a bit mean!

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jonb2412;8622816

So....... 2 coaches... how much do you think hiring a coach for the day … So....... 2 coaches... how much do you think hiring a coach for the day costs?... unless it's only down the road... in the region of £250 per coach.



20 minute journey poss half hour, am unsure of couch costs really, and didn't realise it would cost quite that much, but as mentioned, 2 years ago to Chester Zoo £3.00 all in including adults, even at the time admission was triple that!

I would assume they have to take out an insurance policy for the trip?

The coach driver would cost £100 surely

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silkymolo;8622797

I'm not really that bothered and the price is not really an issue, just … I'm not really that bothered and the price is not really an issue, just think its a bit mean because of the amount of money they have already raised for it (supposedly). However may be an issue for a lot of other parents as the area is council estate with a lot of single parents on benefits (not me though!!), in particular there are a couple of families who have 2 kids attending the nursery.



The admission is £7.00. You are bing asked to pay 50p for the coach fair.

Have I really missed something here? Not sure what the rant is for? Is it a whip round you need?

OP - don't forget that insurance for the children etc...will also be included in the price.

Doesn't sound like much at all considering the costs of coachs.. Even on a short trips, they aren't exactly cheap to hire..

Plus i'd imagine as somebody has already pointed out, insurance costs..

Wish i could go on a day trip with travel included for £7.50 :thumbsup:

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take him there yourself?

A couple of years ago my Daughters nursery had a sponsored thing right before Christmas to fund the toys etc that Santa would give out.

They raised nearly £3000(by roughly 140-160 children).

For christmas the weans got a toy that coulda easily came out of poundland, it was a cardboard sheet with a story on and 4 little puppets depending on what the story was.

We wondered where the rest of the money went to also.

AshleyRFC;8623086

A couple of years ago my Daughters nursery had a sponsored thing right … A couple of years ago my Daughters nursery had a sponsored thing right before Christmas to fund the toys etc that Santa would give out.They raised nearly £3000(by roughly 140-160 children).For christmas the weans got a toy that coulda easily came out of poundland, it was a cardboard sheet with a story on and 4 little puppets depending on what the story was.We wondered where the rest of the money went to also.



Staff Christmas do?

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Alright, alright, there is obviously stuff I have not considered etc.

Again the price is not so much an issue as the fact of the sponsorship money supposedly subsidising it. Obviously I haven't thought of all the expenses.

I just thought it seemed a lot compared to previous trips, and the trips the other classes are going on. Paying the money is not the issue, its the difference between the prices I found a little odd.

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AshleyRFC;8623086

A couple of years ago my Daughters nursery had a sponsored thing right … A couple of years ago my Daughters nursery had a sponsored thing right before Christmas to fund the toys etc that Santa would give out.They raised nearly £3000(by roughly 140-160 children).For christmas the weans got a toy that coulda easily came out of poundland, it was a cardboard sheet with a story on and 4 little puppets depending on what the story was.We wondered where the rest of the money went to also.



So lets get this straight..

Is this thread a complaint that coach trips and admission are too expensive, or that someone has stolen some money? Can this be clarified as I'm really confused!

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AshleyRFC;8623086

A couple of years ago my Daughters nursery had a sponsored thing right … A couple of years ago my Daughters nursery had a sponsored thing right before Christmas to fund the toys etc that Santa would give out.They raised nearly £3000(by roughly 140-160 children).For christmas the weans got a toy that coulda easily came out of poundland, it was a cardboard sheet with a story on and 4 little puppets depending on what the story was.We wondered where the rest of the money went to also.



Nooooo, I would have been peeved! It's not an issue if they explain where the money's going but that's cheeky!!

jonb2412;8622816

So....... 2 coaches... how much do you think hiring a coach for the day … So....... 2 coaches... how much do you think hiring a coach for the day costs?... unless it's only down the road... in the region of £250 per coach.



and a little more tbh. i work at a community facility/childrens centre and we were charged £310 for a 52 seater to go a round trip of about 60miles

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guv;8622995

The admission is £7.00. You are bing asked to pay 50p for the coach … The admission is £7.00. You are bing asked to pay 50p for the coach fair.Have I really missed something here? Not sure what the rant is for? Is it a whip round you need?



Not at all, just seems like they are always asking for money, literally every week! The nursery snack money is dearer that the schools snack money, every week they ask for a donation to one cause or another.

The admission would not be £7.00, school bookings always include a nice healthy discount!

I was just having a little whinge, don't need financial assistance lol!!

I just felt like they were not utilising the sponsorship money but had not taken into account insurance etc, and honestly did not realise the cost of coaches these days. The dearest school trip I ever went on was about £7.00 at high school, 8am to 5pm to Eden camp in Yorkshire from stockport. The majority of school trips I went on were notional donations of a couple of quid no matter how far we were going (am 27 so is quite a while ago though)

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Disco;8623189

and a little more tbh. i work at a community facility/childrens centre … and a little more tbh. i work at a community facility/childrens centre and we were charged £310 for a 52 seater to go a round trip of about 60miles



Should have shopped around judging by the posts on here lol!

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I do know what you mean ds2 school is supposedly one of the best in the region, not suprised the amount of cash they ask for week in week out.

He has had council funding for a full time carer at school too, since Easter, yet to see this carer he is supposed to have, that's something for the LEA to look into, some school take the pee.

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silkymolo;8623213

Not at all, just seems like they are always asking for money, literally … Not at all, just seems like they are always asking for money, literally every week! The nursery snack money is dearer that the schools snack money, every week they ask for a donation to one cause or another. I went on were notional donations of a couple of quid no matter how far we were going (am 27 so is quite a while ago though)



Hmm. OK.... Without sounding rude, you're last Primary School trip was quite a while ago!

So the real gripe is that things in general are expensive in the school? Fair enough, but this coach trip isn't from MHO.

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tinkerbell28;8623286

I do know what you mean ds2 school is supposedly one of the best in the … I do know what you mean ds2 school is supposedly one of the best in the region, not suprised the amount of cash they ask for week in week out.He has had council funding for a full time carer at school too, since Easter, yet to see this carer he is supposed to have, that's something for the LEA to look into, some school take the pee.



That's terrible! This school is quite good, has had a lot of work and money put into it, and has a surestart centre attached to the nursery. Unfortunately however the class of people who send their kids aren't great. By no means tarring the entire estate, but it comes to something when hthe school appears on the local news because the Headteacher has threatened to ban people from the site due to swearing!! When I wait for my LO there are multiple parents stood chatting with every other word f**king or c**t, s**t, and it doesn't stop when the kids come out, very selfish to put that on other people's kids.

Don't get me wrong I am not supermum by any means, the odd swear slips out in front of my kids as much as I try not to. But I would NEVER do it in front of other peoples kids!

I was leaving the nursery the other day and heard a 3yr old say to his mum 'he's a cheeky c**t isn't he?' with the mother simply saying 'yeah he is a bit' I was truly flabbergasted, and sort prayed I hadn't just heard that!

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guv;8623360

Hmm. OK.... Without sounding rude, you're last Primary School trip was … Hmm. OK.... Without sounding rude, you're last Primary School trip was quite a while ago!So the real gripe is that things in general are expensive in the school? Fair enough, but this coach trip isn't from MHO.



Talking about high school, but that's still a while ago!

Yeah in general they do ask for a lot which I find odd in a high benefit paid council estate area. Like I said the actual trip is not unfairly priced I just thought the sponsorship money would have reduced the cost a little more, but had obviously failed to think about a few things!

OP, I don't think youre taking into account the extra admission fees for the parents and teachers who will be keeping an eye on the rugrats ,

Secondly , all funds raised by schools arent specifically used to pay for any type of trips etc, they are used basically to keep the day to day running going........each school gets a budget at the start of each year and when its gone its gone, hence the fundraising.:thumbsup:

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transit;8623470

OP, I don't think youre taking into account the extra admission fees for … OP, I don't think youre taking into account the extra admission fees for the parents and teachers who will be keeping an eye on the rugrats ,Secondly , all funds raised by schools arent specifically used to pay for any type of trips etc, they are used basically to keep the day to day running going........each school gets a budget at the start of each year and when its gone its gone, hence the fundraising.:thumbsup:



I am only conveying what the letters said, and the teachers said. If they said that only part was to fund the trip fair play, don't understand why they can't just say what the money is for really!

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silkymolo;8623457

Talking about high school, but that's still a while ago! Yeah in general … Talking about high school, but that's still a while ago! Yeah in general they do ask for a lot which I find odd in a high benefit paid council estate area. Like I said the actual trip is not unfairly priced I just thought the sponsorship money would have reduced the cost a little more, but had obviously failed to think about a few things!



You say the money was for "a nursery trip" was it this one?

I can see this wrangles. Why not ask the school office what this money raised is used for if its not for the trip. My guess will be that part (at least) is. But at least you will get your answer.

transit;8623589

However theyre never going to tell you the money is being used for an … However theyre never going to tell you the money is being used for an alcohol fuelled knees up in the local



Must be a council estate thing?

silkymolo;8623517

I am only conveying what the letters said, and the teachers said. If they … I am only conveying what the letters said, and the teachers said. If they said that only part was to fund the trip fair play, don't understand why they can't just say what the money is for really!



Yeah i realise what youre saying and i'm not having a go, i was offering a small insight into what i know :thumbsup:


However theyre never going to tell you the money is being used for an alcohol fuelled knees up in the local

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transit;8623589

Yeah i realise what youre saying and i'm not having a go, i was offering … Yeah i realise what youre saying and i'm not having a go, i was offering a small insight into what i know :thumbsup:However theyre never going to tell you the money is being used for an alcohol fuelled knees up in the local



lol!!!!

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guv;8623588

You say the money was for "a nursery trip" was it this one?I can see this … You say the money was for "a nursery trip" was it this one?I can see this wrangles. Why not ask the school office what this money raised is used for if its not for the trip. My guess will be that part (at least) is. But at least you will get your answer.



You will be right, it's me not thinking of insurance etc and not realising how good a swizz operating coaches is, think I need a new line of work lol!!

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Price of Ciggies went up, Teachers smoke a lot, £200 isnt a lot of ciggies these days......

Coaches cost an absolute fortune these days, and group discounts for entry not usually much

I'll pay for the damn trip for your child!
Send me your name, bank account details and mothers maiden name or any other password information so that I can wire the monies across...

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jcampwala;8623735

I'll pay for the damn trip for your child!Send me your name, bank account … I'll pay for the damn trip for your child!Send me your name, bank account details and mothers maiden name or any other password information so that I can wire the monies across...



PM on way LOL!!

Lot of places have stopped group discounts or have really cut back the dicount they give. My sons playgroup won't go to Twycross Zoo anymore as the discount they offered was terrible.

just wait till your little one goes on a residential school trip!! they're sooooo expensive!!

My childrens school used to be like this, until they got a new Headmaster, who sent out a letter in the first week, saying he would stop all the begging letters/fundraising/theme days etc. And if he needed money for trips etc it would be broken down so we know what we have to pay for. Its much better and now when they ask i dont begrudge. It was so bad it was costing us a fortune bookclub/snack/theme day/afterschool club etc.

At one point they charged us £7.50 to go to a local wildlife park...entrance is free and the park is 400m away ...the best of it all my eldests class went to the same park 3 days before for free as a treat....figure that one out
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