SORN vehicle parked on 'public driveway'

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Found 11th Oct 2016
There is a SORN vehicle of 6 years with no Tax MOT, parked where I live, and it's on one of many small public driveways.

I'm not really sure whether it's classed as off the road, because it is literally off the road, or it's still on the road considering it is on a bay off the road that anyone can park in.

Is there an official term for these bays? Reason is, it hasn't moved for a year (lived there a year) and it gets very busy in my little estate so ideally would love to have it towed away to free up space.

Anyone know if I can do anything, it's a crappy Saxo if it helps.

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By public driveway do you mean that nobody owns the land? If it's owned by the council then yes you can report it but if it's privately owned it's legal.

Man up & go ask the bloke what he's planning on doing with his car.

Banned

Public, private, public

Make your mind up

You got a screenshot of the bay from google streetview you can share?

miikeyblue

You got a screenshot of the bay from google streetview you can share?


You up to your old stalking tricks again mikey?

OldEnglish

You up to your old stalking tricks again mikey?



Yea, my suspended sentence has expired now

Is there an official term for these bays? Reason is, it hasn't moved for a year (lived there a year) and it gets very busy in my little estate so ideally would love to have it towed away to free up space.

Translated to WHAAAA WHAAAAA I can't get parked because the car is there whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Edited by: "Graham1979" 11th Oct 2016

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Graham1979

Is there an official term for these bays? Reason is, it hasn't moved for … Is there an official term for these bays? Reason is, it hasn't moved for a year (lived there a year) and it gets very busy in my little estate so ideally would love to have it towed away to free up space. Translated to WHAAAA WHAAAAA I can't get packed because the car is there whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!


Surely if you're just packing the car you don't need to park in a bay..

EMOriginal

Surely if you're just packing the car you don't need to park in a bay..



It's only a Saxo would have fit in a suitcase!

Banned

darkstryder360

Is there an official term for these bays?



Yep. PRIVATE & probably owned by the parish council & not subject to the road traffic act

Banned

the owner must have passed away hence its parked up with other family members, i don't know.

why don't you ask your naighbours. then take it from there on. ask council who the land belongs to as a last resort.

just set it on fire, it will soon be dealt with

sofiasar

the owner must have passed away hence its parked up with other family … the owner must have passed away hence its parked up with other family members, i don't know. why don't you ask your naighbours. then take it from there on. ask council who the land belongs to as a last resort.



It's been there a long time so they must be dead? That's quite a conclusion you've jumped to.

miikeyblue

It's been there a long time so they must be dead? That's quite a … It's been there a long time so they must be dead? That's quite a conclusion you've jumped to.



Desperate to park his banger there instead. As I say its a case of, "I want to park there so you can move"

Graham1979

Desperate to park his banger there instead. As I say its a case of, "I … Desperate to park his banger there instead. As I say its a case of, "I want to park there so you can move"



Oh, I agree - he's clearly after freeing up the space, but to suggest they're dead?

The fact that the car is SORN'd suggests that the owner knew it was going to be off the road for a while - that's not the action of someone who's died suddenly - nor is it the action of someone who knows they're dying and is putting their affairs in order - they'd simply sell the car.

Ask your local authority if the highway (and lay-by) is adopted. If it is then it's public and you can ask the police to do their duty and remove the unlicensed vehicle. If it's not adopted then it is private and you are therefore restricted !

If it is untaxed you can report it to your local police (dont use 999) tell them you can smell fuel around it, and they will come take a look.
Pour a litre or 2 of petrol near the rear of it (so it stinks of fuel).. worked for me, 2 days later the offending eyesore was towed away.

more than one way to skin a cat .............

I got a neighbour who has no road tax, parks on the road and tells everyone the space outside his house is his.
Nice bloke.

Lazyoaf

If it is untaxed you can report it to your local police (dont use 999) … If it is untaxed you can report it to your local police (dont use 999) tell them you can smell fuel around it, and they will come take a look.Pour a litre or 2 of petrol near the rear of it (so it stinks of fuel).. worked for me, 2 days later the offending eyesore was towed away.more than one way to skin a cat .............



Yea, lets waste police time on a SORN'd vehicle that's being kept in a space off the public highway...

I'm guessing communal car park we got loads in our new build housing estate trouble is no one uses the carpark and still parks up and down the estate roads including my wife  everybody has two parking spots in our communal carpark some people do have sorn cars in there own spot and in my opinion that's nobody else's business
Edited by: "larrylightweight" 11th Oct 2016

Here you go.
https://www.gov.uk/report-untaxed-vehicle

Report it and it will be checked out next time enforcement are in your area. If on council maintained land it will be clamped then towed.

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Graham1979

Is there an official term for these bays? Reason is, it hasn't moved for … Is there an official term for these bays? Reason is, it hasn't moved for a year (lived there a year) and it gets very busy in my little estate so ideally would love to have it towed away to free up space. Translated to WHAAAA WHAAAAA I can't get parked because the car is there whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!



OMG X) X) that is true though. I often cry myself to sleep.

Thanks for advice... I do like the idea of pouring fuel on the floor I think that could work oO

Lazyoaf

If it is untaxed you can report it to your local police (dont use 999) … If it is untaxed you can report it to your local police (dont use 999) tell them you can smell fuel around it, and they will come take a look.Pour a litre or 2 of petrol near the rear of it (so it stinks of fuel).. worked for me, 2 days later the offending eyesore was towed away.more than one way to skin a cat .............



​I don't think police will remove the car though, in my area they just put a yellow sticker stating 'police aware'. Removing it would be dvla and even then I think they clamp the car. Could be wrong. Also op did you say the car has been there for six years?

ow1ie

Ask your local authority if the highway (and lay-by) is adopted. If it is … Ask your local authority if the highway (and lay-by) is adopted. If it is then it's public and you can ask the police to do their duty and remove the unlicensed vehicle. If it's not adopted then it is private and you are therefore restricted !


This.

if it is public - they have can it removed as long as no one has an interest in it - if they do, VOSA can act as there's no tax etc.

DAMNOME

Here you go. https://www.gov.uk/report-untaxed-vehicleReport it and it … Here you go. https://www.gov.uk/report-untaxed-vehicleReport it and it will be checked out next time enforcement are in your area. If on council maintained land it will be clamped then towed.



correct but with an error - council cannot remove if there is a vested interest in the car

If its on sorn it has to have insurance. not sure about having an mot tho

ixi1456

If its on sorn it has to have insurance. not sure about having an mot tho



Ummmm no. If it's sorn and not on the public highway, it doesn't need insurance or MOT.
Hence why I have multiple motorbikes in my garage that have no insurance, tax or MOT.
If you want to tax a vehicle, you need MOT and insurance.

ktm666

Ummmm no. If it's sorn and not on the public highway, it doesn't need … Ummmm no. If it's sorn and not on the public highway, it doesn't need insurance or MOT.Hence why I have multiple motorbikes in my garage that have no insurance, tax or MOT.If you want to tax a vehicle, you need MOT and insurance.



​true, not sure where people keep getting this 'it must be insured' garbage from

The local authority has the power to remove any vehicle, where it is a danger to the public (after attempting to trace the owner, insist they move/repair it). Where contact fails and the danger remains the authority has a duty of care to its public to remove (and subsequently scrap if contact is not made) any vehicle, regardless if the vehicle is SORN or not.

SORN does not remove the requirement from the local authority, where danger is present to the public. Hence make a vehicle meet the "danger" criteria to get it removed...

how do you know it is SORN? try reporting it to the council as an abandoned vehicle.

robertsclark

how do you know it is SORN? try reporting it to the council as an … how do you know it is SORN? try reporting it to the council as an abandoned vehicle.



Easy enough for anyone to check

vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/
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