student who threw a fire extinguisher off the building admits violent disorder

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Found 24th Nov 2010
The student who threw the fire extinguisher off the building admitted he did it and now goes to crown court.The maximum sentence he can get is 5 years.

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at last some good news if he gets the max

Original Poster

If he gets the maximum sentence would that stop anyone else doing it again?

archer1204

If he gets the maximum sentence would that stop anyone else doing it … If he gets the maximum sentence would that stop anyone else doing it again?



nope, idiots will be idiots. He could have killed someone and should be made to think about his actions
Edited by: "leemole101" 24th Nov 2010

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archer1204

If he gets the maximum sentence would that stop anyone else doing it … If he gets the maximum sentence would that stop anyone else doing it again?



Has any sentence stopped other people doing the same crime?
But hopefully it will make him think twice before trying to kill people next time

throw the book ( or fire extinguisher ) at him !!!

Sloth/Mod

What a let off.

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Inb4 plum says it was an accident and the police deserved it

Im surprised they didnt go for attempted murder

Original Poster

talking of plum wonder where he is these days

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archer1204

talking of plum wonder where he is these days



Preparing his defence? X)

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archer1204

talking of plum wonder where he is these days



buying fertiliser

He's not being done for attempted murder?
I'm sure a fire extinguisher to the head from the top of a building would leave more than a scratch

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DarkKnight

He's not being done for attempted murder?I'm sure a fire extinguisher to … He's not being done for attempted murder?I'm sure a fire extinguisher to the head from the top of a building would leave more than a scratch



but they would have to prove he had the intention to kill to charge with attempted murder.
he won't get the max either, probs 2-3 years max

Original Poster

If he gets 2-3 years what message is that sending out?

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colinsunderland

but they would have to prove he had the intention to kill to charge with … but they would have to prove he had the intention to kill to charge with attempted murder.he won't get the max either, probs 2-3 years max



I'd put money on community service and a couple of hundred quid fine.

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archer1204

If he gets 2-3 years what message is that sending out?



if he's admitting it he can't get 5 years, as it would get reduced on appeal.

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I would say £80 fixed penalty
Edited by: "dog_cop" 24th Nov 2010

Syzable

I'd put money on community service and a couple of hundred quid fine.



£9000 sounds fair. oh wait

What about the hundreds of others that take part in these things and don't even get charged?

colinsunderland

but they would have to prove he had the intention to kill to charge with … but they would have to prove he had the intention to kill to charge with attempted murder.he won't get the max either, probs 2-3 years max



What else would he have been trying to do though, other than brutally injure/kill someone?

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Hopefully he will get slashed up and bummed in prison.

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DarkKnight

What else would he have been trying to do though, other than brutally … What else would he have been trying to do though, other than brutally injure/kill someone?



theres your answer. if charged with attempted murder he could say he didnt intent to hurt anyone, or even he just wanted to brutally injure them, and be found not guilty. very hard toprove attempted murder in a case like this

He should have plenty of time to do his assignments in prison.

colinsunderland

theres your answer. if charged with attempted murder he could say he … theres your answer. if charged with attempted murder he could say he didnt intent to hurt anyone, or even he just wanted to brutally injure them, and be found not guilty. very hard toprove attempted murder in a case like this



I can't see any way where he could get out of it, apart from of course the rubbish justice system.

I mean you could just say "I didn't mean to injure someone" in any case as an excuse, for example if you throw a filing cabinet off a skyscraper and miss a load of people by inches, and then get let off because you didn't hit anybody.
The potential is still there and he should be locked away for it.

they should give him 5 years and make him pay the prison fees..........................oh the irony
Edited by: "Alfonse" 24th Nov 2010

gari189

What about the hundreds of others that take part in these things and … What about the hundreds of others that take part in these things and don't even get charged?



thousands went there with a peaceful protest in mind ( my neice being one of them ) they didn't really have to start smashing $hit up did they?

DarkKnight

I can't see any way where he could get out of it, apart from of course … I can't see any way where he could get out of it, apart from of course the rubbish justice system.I mean you could just say "I didn't mean to injure someone" in any case as an excuse, for example if you throw a filing cabinet off a skyscraper and miss a load of people by inches, and then get let off because you didn't hit anybody.The potential is still there and he should be locked away for it.



For arguments sake, every time you get in a car you have the potential to kill someone.

freeDUMB

For arguments sake, every time you get in a car you have the potential to … For arguments sake, every time you get in a car you have the potential to kill someone.



Yeah but in this case, it's more like you driving on the pavement.
As the person knew that what he was doing could possibly kill someone.

guv

Inb4 plum says it was an accident and the police deserved itIm surprised … Inb4 plum says it was an accident and the police deserved itIm surprised they didn't go for attempted murder



So guv, I am glad you weren't in a lynching party! Seems I was right not to jump to conclusions. While Somebody did throw a fire extinguisher it was to the guy you would have had banged up and other people would have had dead for it.

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There is no denying the defendant was an idiot and did something extremely dangerous. However many more people die from the effects of government and commercial cutbacks than die when people are resisting them.

However these are called accidents and mostly deemed unfortunate and nobodies fault regardless of the fact they are caused through money saving policies. The most dangerous job you can have is in the building industry and it is going to get worse in the coming recession.

So I would always support people fighting cuts. However I would also argue they are disciplined, organised and focus their anger in the right place.

f everyones i I have been fixing my loft ladder/hatch, putting in a new toilet and collecting Fertiliser (horse manure for the school allotment).

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freeDUMB

For arguments sake, every time you get in a car you have the potential to … For arguments sake, every time you get in a car you have the potential to kill someone.



When I get in a car, I do so to get from A to B.

When I throw a fire extinguisher from 200 feet at the police below........... oh wait, that would actually be pretty dumb comparison.

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Plum

However these are called accidents



So are you suggesting he accidently threw the extinguisher at the police?

I'm sure he didn't wake up with a hankering to throw a fire extinguisher off of a roof.

Ultimately he made sure the police weren't wearing their helmets in vain.

Some of you may have missed Paul O'Gradys take on it all
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guv

So are you suggesting he accidently threw the extinguisher at the police?



My point is that went an idiot loses his head and does something dangerous in the heat of the moment condemnation rains down so easily from the media and those in power.

However when the CEO of railway maintenance company deliberately cuts back year on year until somebody is killed it is looked on and an accident. I see this kind of act as far more immoral, yet in most cases nothing is said and even when it is there is no real sanction in law. This kind of thing happens a lot more than any injury caused by demonstrations.
Edited by: "Plum" 24th Nov 2010

gari189

What about the hundreds of others that take part in these things and … What about the hundreds of others that take part in these things and don't even get charged?



What about them?

Original Poster

So here we go again today students have gone on a demo and a police van gets smashed up a flare put inside(no police inside) and a policeman has broken his arm.

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I'd be very surprised if the offender didnt get at least 6 months judging by the high profile of the crime / situation

fair enough I say.

surely someone this stupid isnt in higher education!

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Plum

My point is that went an idiot loses his head and does something … My point is that went an idiot loses his head and does something dangerous in the heat of the moment condemnation rains down so easily from the media and those in power.



And you have a problem with this?

However when the CEO of railway maintenance company deliberately cuts … However when the CEO of railway maintenance company deliberately cuts back year on year until somebody is killed it is looked on and an accident. I see this kind of act as far more immoral, yet in most cases nothing is said and even when it is there is no real sanction in law.



Actually, you are incorrect. If negligence is found like you are suggesting, people get charged with corporate manslaughter.
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