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    Swine Flu... The real figures...

    I am watching the news and they mentions the sad death of a 17 year old mother and unborn baby of Swine Flu in the UK.

    My thoughts are with their family.

    It went on to say 25.000 (Ish, can't remember) confirmed cases of swine flu have been announced this week....

    My question is what is a confirmed case????

    About 2 weeks ago, I had a course of Tamiflu after visiting NHS direct with and went through the multiple choice questions...

    So I would then be included as a confirmed case????

    I am sure now I did not have swine flu, just a crappy cold...

    Gorden Browns swine Flu, bring on Cameron to fix this broken Briton...

    (Ignore the last comment, I have had drinkies..)

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    I think that swine flu may take off during the winter :?

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    yes, most of the confirmed cases are like your own case, a phone call to nhs

    Next month is when it will really start to spread... watch out for more deaths and increased confirmed cases.

    think i had it last week, the fevers where ridiculous causing hallucinations etc

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    sassie;6590778

    yes, most of the confirmed cases are like your own case, a phone call to … yes, most of the confirmed cases are like your own case, a phone call to nhs



    Mine was not even that, I did a online question and answer on a web form, at the end, I was given a reference number to go to my Tesco and pick up a course of tamiflu....

    Simples...

    I may get another course for my lad in case we do actually get it in the winter..

    I bet many have got the tamiflu in, just in case, and the government figures are false because of this.

    im really worried being preggers
    when will they start giving jabs?

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    tinkerbell28;6590826

    Oh you mean NOV, like when seasonal flu starts to take hold and kill more … Oh you mean NOV, like when seasonal flu starts to take hold and kill more people anyway, amongst vomiting bugs such as norovirus :roll:We are all doomed, doomed I tell ya:viking:



    Blame Gordon.... Come on cameron and sort this broken country out...

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    edjaned;6590834

    im really worried being preggerswhen will they start giving jabs?



    The first jabs have just arrived...

    NHS staff are getting them first I think...

    Don't know about preggers people??

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    Chiptivo;6590825

    Mine was not even that, I did a online question and answer on a web form, … Mine was not even that, I did a online question and answer on a web form, at the end, I was given a reference number to go to my Tesco and pick up a course of tamiflu....Simples...I may get another course for my lad in case we do actually get it in the winter..I bet many have got the tamiflu in, just in case, and the government figures are false because of this.



    i highly doubt even half of those figures actrually had it, and if either of mine did i wouldnt be giving them tamiflu, it does make ya wonder how many people before swine flu contacted their gp for colds and flus

    edjaned;6590834

    im really worried being preggerswhen will they start giving jabs?



    They are due to start giving them next month hun and the pregnant ladies are on the list to get them done

    swine flu or seasonal flu? makes no difference for most people treatment same, imo leave tamiflu alone, stay in with a lemsip and watch david dickinsons real deal.:thumbsup:

    Chiptivo;6590850

    The first jabs have just arrived...NHS staff are getting them first I … The first jabs have just arrived...NHS staff are getting them first I think...Don't know about preggers people??



    Yeah pregnant women are due to get them, I heard it on the news today

    My youngest has been ill since Friday, burning up, being sick, couldn't sleep, keep waking up crying, now has snotty nose, bad cough and sweats, she hasn't been given anything for it.....

    I believe one GP estimated that 90% of those who get Tamiflu don't actually have swine flu - I know other GPs are worried that people are being misdiagnosed with swine flu when they have a more serious condition. The same one seemed to think it's also partly to use up the Tamiflu stocks as the ones they had expired next year..........

    The young girl from The Scottish Borders that died, I have been in that very hospital many hundreds (literally) of times. Never would of thought it would happen practically on my doorstep!

    Nov/Dec is when Swine Flu will kill most.

    munnski;6590876

    My youngest has been ill since Friday, burning up, being sick, couldn't … My youngest has been ill since Friday, burning up, being sick, couldn't sleep, keep waking up crying, now has snotty nose, bad cough and sweats, she hasn't been given anything for it.....


    tamiflu wont help much, can you manage with paracetamol and ibuprofen + fluid, hope well soon:thumbsup:

    dontdothatagain;6590915

    The young girl from The Scottish Borders that died, I have been in that … The young girl from The Scottish Borders that died, I have been in that very hospital many hundreds (literally) of times. Never would of thought it would happen practically on my doorstep!Nov/Dec is when Swine Flu will kill most.



    Not far from me, poor girl. RIP x

    Thing to remember is thousands die from flu every year.....its possible you will catch it but most people don't get flu every year so the chances are you won't get it and even if you do it will be similar to normal flu.....

    although statistically HDUKers seem to be catching it more than the rest of the population - its probably a fiendish money making plot from admin and he's infected the site with the virus

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    gari189;6590967

    Thing to remember is thousands die from flu every year.....its possible … Thing to remember is thousands die from flu every year.....its possible you will catch it but most people don't get flu every year so the chances are you won't get it and even if you do it will be similar to normal flu.....although statistically HDUKers seem to be catching it more than the rest of the population - its probably a fiendish money making plot from admin and he's infected the site with the virus



    No...

    Swine flu is different...

    Loads as in hundreds of flu viruses have mutated, and we all carry antibodies for most of them.
    Swine flu is a NEW variant, and NO ONE has immunity from it, that is why it is a pandemic.
    Expert say it is not as bad as most flues, that why we have had not had many deaths from it..

    Got swine flu myself, haven't hardly moved since Monday, Tamiflu don't seem to be doing much good either :x

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    Chiptivo;6591009

    No...Swine flu is different...Loads as in hundreds of flu viruses have … No...Swine flu is different...Loads as in hundreds of flu viruses have mutated, and we all carry antibodies for most of them. Swine flu is a NEW variant, and NO ONE has immunity from it, that is why it is a pandemic. Expert say it is not as bad as most flues, that why we have had not had many deaths from it..



    well some of us must be immune to it as otherwise we would have all had it, unless of course the figures are slightly exagerated

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    sassie;6591040

    well some of us must be immune to it as otherwise we would have all had … well some of us must be immune to it as otherwise we would have all had it, unless of course the figures are slightly exagerated




    No one is immune to this strain, if you come in close contact, and the virus takes hold, you will get it...

    That is why vaccines have been created and are being rolled out.

    You will get it eventually if you are not vaccinated...

    That said, it is a mild strain of Flu, and if you do get it, a day or two under the covers should fix it for you.

    The real "winners" in all of this are Roche, Novartis and Baxter International Inc.

    Some profiteering that would put Goldman Sachs to shame!

    Conspiracy theorists, get writing!

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    Chiptivo;6591075

    No one is immune to this strain, if you come in close contact, and the … No one is immune to this strain, if you come in close contact, and the virus takes hold, you will get it...That is why vaccines have been created and are being rolled out.You will get it eventually if you are not vaccinated...That said, it is a mild strain of Flu, and if you do get it, a day or two under the covers should fix it for you.



    so all those nurses and doctors who are in close contact with these cases surely should have got it, the same with the families of those who have died from it

    Chiptivo;6591075

    No one is immune to this strain, if you come in close contact, and the … No one is immune to this strain, if you come in close contact, and the virus takes hold, you will get it...



    Thats rubbish - there will always be some with a natural immunity and even if you do get it you may not demonstrate any of the symptoms - it will vary from individual to individual.

    Wash your hands frequently is the easiest way to drastically cut your chances of getting it.

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    sassie;6591127

    so all those nurses and doctors who are in close contact with these cases … so all those nurses and doctors who are in close contact with these cases surely should have got it, the same with the families of those who have died from it



    I am with you on this, I am just forwarding stuff I have read and seen on the news...??

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    Chiptivo;6591147

    I am with you on this, I am just forwarding stuff I have read and seen on … I am with you on this, I am just forwarding stuff I have read and seen on the news...??



    lol - i already heard all that, was discussing my own opinions on it, not what we are being led to believe

    Chiptivo;6591075

    No one is immune to this strain, if you come in close contact, and the … No one is immune to this strain, if you come in close contact, and the virus takes hold, you will get it...That is why vaccines have been created and are being rolled out.You will get it eventually if you are not vaccinated...That said, it is a mild strain of Flu, and if you do get it, a day or two under the covers should fix it for you.



    agreed, there have been terrible killer pandemics in past, this one is as nothing compared to them or what we may have to face, people have really gone to town over this and are panicking needlessly. there should be lessons learned thuogh, as some of the organisation has been shocking, thank god it is a mild variant:)

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    chezz2;6591169

    agreed, there have been terrible killer pandemics in past, this one is as … agreed, there have been terrible killer pandemics in past, this one is as nothing compared to them or what we may have to face, people have really gone to town over this and are panicking needlessly. there should be lessons learned thuogh, as some of the organisation has been shocking, thank god it is a mild variant:)



    Agreed, when you look at how many dead the Spanish flu left behind (Did not originate from Spain BTW) swine flu is nothing....

    Brown, can't he do anything right.....
    Now Cameron will bring a better stronger flu to this broken Britain.. :whistling:

    Chiptivo;6591147

    I am with you on this, I am just forwarding stuff I have read and seen on … I am with you on this, I am just forwarding stuff I have read and seen on the news...??



    You are looking at the wrong news then...........

    news.bbc.co.uk/1/h…stm
    Flu expert Professor Peter Openshaw, of Imperial College London, says about one in every three people who become infected will not realise they have had swine flu because they will have had no or only very few symptoms.

    i remember watching Channel 4 news when Bird Flu was sweeping the world......and an 'expert' from somewhere said that "Bird Flu is now the greatest threat to human existance we have ever come across" (he said it with a straight face as well)

    ......now as we are all here posting our deals.........i assume he was wrong!

    Yes its sad for people who have lost family etc to swine flu but it really is far less fatal then normal flu.........just my two pence worth.

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    gari189;6591181

    You are looking at the wrong news … You are looking at the wrong news then...........http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8021958.stmFlu expert Professor Peter Openshaw, of Imperial College London, says about one in every three people who become infected will not realise they have had swine flu because they will have had no or only very few symptoms.



    Yes, but everyone will get it???
    Thats what I am saying.
    Obviously some people will not realise it.. Because they are hard... Just like Cameron who will fix this broken Britain.

    so what will happen will swine flu just go or will it be around 4 good?

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    edjaned;6591215

    so what will happen will swine flu just go or will it be around 4 good?



    Around for ever, like other flu variants...

    As the BBC expert said, many of us will get the flu virus, and build antibodies to it quickly so we may not think we have ever had it.

    if it had been called girly flu noone would admit to having it and they wouldnt ask for tamiflu (except for cameron):)

    edjaned;6591215

    so what will happen will swine flu just go or will it be around 4 good?



    it will die out, the real problem will come when a different more potent virus arrives that goes global, this happens every so often, the last biggie was in about 1910 the spanish flu, we are overdue for a biggie. that is why imo this flu can be used as a warning and a rehearsal for what is to come. if this virus had been very bad i think we would have been screwed as a country for a while.
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