Found 31st Jul 2014
What a fantastic idea, about time the idiots that fight / vandalise and make our towns no go areas at night were dealt with.

Also for drink drivers etc.

bbc.co.uk/new…279

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I would also like to see the pubs and clubs that serve these drunks and yobs continuous supplies of booze just so they can make a profit, shut down. The law already states it is illegal to serve a drunk, it's about time it was implemented.

And every car fitted with a Ignition Interlocks so that the person driving has to be under the limit to drive.

I've seen those police/crime documentaries/tv shows where repeatedly drivers previously banned are caught behind the wheel
Edited by: "philphil61" 31st Jul 2014

We handle drunks completely wrong in this country. If someone goes to the GP and says they are an alcoholic they get a handed a HUGE welfare cheque to make sure that they don't turn to crime to fund their addiction. If someone is an alcoholic they need help, not more drink. We should have state funded dry out centres with proper counseling rather than our idiotic approach of throwing money at them until they go away.

jaybear88

We handle drunks completely wrong in this country. If someone goes to the … We handle drunks completely wrong in this country. If someone goes to the GP and says they are an alcoholic they get a handed a HUGE welfare cheque to make sure that they don't turn to crime to fund their addiction. If someone is an alcoholic they need help, not more drink. We should have state funded dry out centres with proper counseling rather than our idiotic approach of throwing money at them until they go away.


I think this is a misconception these days (huge cheque). Unless someone can prove me wrong?

hocka

I think this is a misconception these days (huge cheque). Unless someone … I think this is a misconception these days (huge cheque). Unless someone can prove me wrong?



Unless it's changed in the past couple of years? I was working in a job that involved dealing with bank details etc and some of the local drunks came in and handed theirs across.... they were earning roughly the same as me (in fulltime employment), and that wasn't including housing benefits etc

jaybear88

We handle drunks completely wrong in this country. If someone goes to the … We handle drunks completely wrong in this country. If someone goes to the GP and says they are an alcoholic they get a handed a HUGE welfare cheque to make sure that they don't turn to crime to fund their addiction. If someone is an alcoholic they need help, not more drink. We should have state funded dry out centres with proper counseling rather than our idiotic approach of throwing money at them until they go away.


I've heard that about HUGE welfare, but I've never actually seen it, maybe that's for a different type of drunk.

I used to do voluntary work at night with the Church's 'Care van' in a few cities, and all the drunks we ever saw had absolutely nothing; most of them died prematurely.

They were tramps in every way, in appearance, smell and behaviour.
They slept on the streets in the clothes they wore; they barely ate and just seemed to scrounge money for another 'can' or bottle.

Seemed to me that they were on the fast track to self destruction, and almost every effort to stop them ended in failure.
I write 'almost' because, praise God, there were some success stories.

The thing that always surprised me was the 'quality' of these people.
Many of them had been fairly successful in life until something happened that turned everything upside down.
I've spoken with tramps that were doctors, hoteliers, shop owners etc and as for the female tramps almost all of them have been abused in some way.

It's been a long time since I've been on the vans, but I began to see more junkies than drunks - could always tell the junkies apart as they would ask for 5 or 6 spoonfuls of sugar in their tea.
More foreign people too; there were sometimes problems with cultural differences - especially when it came to 'queuing'.
Home grown tramps still retained the queue mentality whereas foreign tramps just 'piled' in - got so bad, we stopped bringing the second-hand clothes to hand out to them - couldn't be doing with all the fisticuffs.

I think most of us would love to help all sorts of broken people back to some kind of 'normality', but sometimes I think it's always been this way, and it's probably always going to be this way.
Maybe that's what Jesus was alluding to when He said; "You will always have the poor among you, and you can help them whenever you want to. But you will not always have me."

I heard years ago alcoholics used to get extra money to buy bedding/beds as they would often wet/dirty the bed. Not sure if theres any truth in it though.

Another excuse not to build more prisons

thats scotland stuck in shackles then!

jaybear88

We handle drunks completely wrong in this country. If someone goes to the … We handle drunks completely wrong in this country. If someone goes to the GP and says they are an alcoholic they get a handed a HUGE welfare cheque to make sure that they don't turn to crime to fund their addiction. If someone is an alcoholic they need help, not more drink. We should have state funded dry out centres with proper counseling rather than our idiotic approach of throwing money at them until they go away.



I'm an alcohlocilc 'hic' dna dont gwet any moor monies.
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