Tax credits if daughter does not want to go back to college in September

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Found 10th Aug 2015
I am in receipt of working tax credits, child tax credits and child benefit for my four children (youngest 8 and oldest 18). My oldest daughter (19 in September) has completed a two-year Level 3 course at college and passed it. She has a part-time college job and was going to go back to college to do another course for a year, until she can find a full-time job where she can use her Level 3 qualification. She now says that she doesn't think that she wants to go back to do another course in September and is going to move in with her boyfriend's family and increase her part-time college job hours (until she can find the job that she actually wants). I've told her that as regards college, she only has a couple of weeks to decide definitely if she is not going back.

Can somebody tell me what happens about the child tax credits and child benefit that I get for her? I realise that if she leaves full-time education, the money will stop. During the summer holidays they continue to pay child tax credits and child benefit as if she is still in full-time education (as they do for children that finish school and will be starting college in September). Term starts on Monday, 7th September, so if she moves out that day and does not go to college, would that be the day that the payments will officially end? Just wondering if she decides not to start on the 7th, if they will ask me to repay all of the child tax credits and child benefit for her that I have received over the summer holidays? Really not sure about this - does anybody know the answer to this? Thank you.
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you should tell tax credits when she leaves home and if she doesn't start college then she officially left on her last day before the summer holidays but I think they do a 4 week run on anyway so you might just be in time before you are overpaid
Be straight with them as they will continue paying you them want it all adapt
My son has just finished college and his child benefit finished this month so you should be ok. You need to inform them as soon as possible or you will be overpaid if they make the September payment.
Col67

My son has just finished college and his child benefit finished this … My son has just finished college and his child benefit finished this month so you should be ok. You need to inform them as soon as possible or you will be overpaid if they make the September payment.



College ended on 3 July so if that means that they might pay for 4 weeks, that will take it up to 31 July. I think I might have to talk to my daughter asap about returning to college, as going on these dates, I've already been overpaid if she decides not to go back - really don't want to be in the situation where I've been overpaid several hundred pounds for child tax credits and child benefit, but there again, also don't want her to rush and make the wrong decision.

If she says that she is definitely not going back and I call, say tomorrow, will they stop my money for a few weeks whilst they are sorting everything out (will still have 3 eligible children). We're going on holiday on the 22nd August, and really wouldn't want my money stopped for several weeks, especially as I will still have a lot of monthly direct debits going out of my bank account.
Just thought about something else. My daughter currently is only working part-time (about 20 hours a week), would she be entitled to any kinds of benefit if she can't get full-time hours immediately? I know that she won't get working tax credits as she would need to be working over 30 hours. A bit concerned that if she moves out, and can't get offered any extra hours for a while, that she won't have very much money left after paying out for rent, etc. She is currently exempt from paying dental charges (NHS dentist), prescriptions, etc, as she is down on my working tax credit NHS exemption certificate. So if she moves out and leaves college, would she have to pay for all of that if she only has a part-time job (she would no longer be on my exemption certificate)?
My son stopped in July and my child benefit stopped this month so you should be ok but I am not sure about child tax credits. You could try looking here to see if your daughter is entitled to anything.

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/family/benefits-check

http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/benefits-for-young-people

My son has now got an apprenticeship so I am not too sure about benefits. She might be able to get something if she is on a low income and working less than 16 hours a week.
Edited by: "Col67" 10th Aug 2015
Also it might be worth noting- that tax credits are not paid if she is on a course higher than Level 3.

So if she is say doing a level 4 or eqivelant tax credit are not paid. Only for Level 1-3.
Have you tried the benefits calculator on turn2us.org.uk ?
Its anonymous and you can enter ALL your circumstances and it will calculate ALL the benefits you should be paid based upon the info you tell it. The good thing about it is that you can also amend the info based upon things that might happen downstream. In this case there could be impact also on any benefits being claimed in the household your daughter is thinking of moving to.
tardytortoise

Have you tried the benefits calculator on www.turn2us.org.uk ?Its … Have you tried the benefits calculator on www.turn2us.org.uk ?Its anonymous and you can enter ALL your circumstances and it will calculate ALL the benefits you should be paid based upon the info you tell it. The good thing about it is that you can also amend the info based upon things that might happen downstream. In this case there could be impact also on any benefits being claimed in the household your daughter is thinking of moving to.



Thank you for this. I've had a play with figures now and entered different working hours for just my daughter, to get an idea as to what proportion of the rent she should be paying if she stayed here. My daughter has discussed moving in with her boyfriend (his parents' house) and his mum and dad have said that they will only charge her £100 a month, which would be a lot cheaper than if she stayed at my house (Council owned). She's been going out with her boyfriend for over 2 years now and spends a lot of time at their house and socialises with them all, so things should work out ok if she decides to do that. However, I'll feel a little sad knowing that she has officially left home!
Hi I too may be in the same situation, that my son may not return to college in September... and im anxious that if he then decides not too, that I would owe the money received over summer holidays... have you been able to find an answer to this... its a minefield!!
Might just be easier all round to ring the college the first week hes due back- (with an excuse- ), then the following week, ring to say hes had seconds thoughts and will not be returning,
diarran23

Hi I too may be in the same situation, that my son may not return to … Hi I too may be in the same situation, that my son may not return to college in September... and im anxious that if he then decides not too, that I would owe the money received over summer holidays... have you been able to find an answer to this... its a minefield!!


Just as before use the calculator at turn2us.org.uk
diarran23

Hi I too may be in the same situation, that my son may not return to … Hi I too may be in the same situation, that my son may not return to college in September... and im anxious that if he then decides not too, that I would owe the money received over summer holidays... have you been able to find an answer to this... its a minefield!!



My daughter attended the college for the first day of the new college term and the second day did not return. I then called the tax credit office and told them that she went in for one day and then said that she didn't want to continue with her course - they were happy with that and did not ask for the tax credits back that I'd received over the holiday period (even though they did ask me the date that she finished her college year prior to breaking up for the Summer). Prior to this, after discussing the situation with the tax credit office, they said that the money would not be stopped until the college term had recommenced - as then I would know the situation that was happening. If you are worried about this, perhaps you should ask your son to return to college in September and then see if he is definitely going to drop out.
Thought all benefits stopped after the 2 years at college as they are no longer a child from the academic year they are 19?
Sophiasky

My daughter attended the college for the first day of the new college … My daughter attended the college for the first day of the new college term and the second day did not return. I then called the tax credit office and told them that she went in for one day and then said that she didn't want to continue with her course - they were happy with that and did not ask for the tax credits back that I'd received over the holiday period (even though they did ask me the date that she finished her college year prior to breaking up for the Summer). Prior to this, after discussing the situation with the tax credit office, they said that the money would not be stopped until the college term had recommenced - as then I would know the situation that was happening. If you are worried about this, perhaps you should ask your son to return to college in September and then see if he is definitely going to drop out.



Easy money!!! Silly me for working all these years!!!
TheAppleGeezer

Easy money!!! Silly me for working all these years!!!




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TheAppleGeezer

Easy money!!! Silly me for working all these years!!!



I did phone the tax credit office about this and was told that they do pay tax credits in the Summer holiday even though the term ends in July. Tax credits only officially stop from the start of term in September if they then decide not to return. I do actually work by the way - I have worked all of my life full-time since leaving education and only had a break of 3 months off when my oldest daughter was born in 1996 - since then I have continued to work so have been entitled to child tax credits (have 4 children) and working tax credits - I only received what I was legally entitled to.
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