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    Teachers vote 'yes' to pay strike

    ANY EXCUSE FOR YET ANOTHER DAY OFF !

    Members of one of the biggest teaching unions in England and Wales have voted for a one-day pay strike on 24 April.

    The National Union of Teachers (NUT) says its ballot ran three to one in favour of what would be its first national stoppage for 22 years.

    Voting was 48,217 (75%) in favour and 15,884 (25%) against on a 32% turnout.

    The government says a strike's will only disrupt children's learning. But the union wants the 2.45% pay rise for 2008 lifted at least above inflation.

    General secretary Steve Sinnott said: "I call on the government to think again and ensure that salaries at least keep pay in line with inflation and that there is a recognition of the continuing workload pressures on teachers."

    Headline inflation was currently 4.1%, he said.

    The news say this every year. What this actually means is the few sad teachers who give up there holidays and go to the pointless union conference have voted for it. It now gets sent out to every teacher who is a member of the union. Most who will vote no to the strike and it never happens. So basically, there is not going to be a strike on the 24 April.
    - dcx_badass

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    Original Poster

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    Good on them

    i fully support the teachers i wouldn't want to deal with everything they have to,

    guerilla;1814939

    i fully support the teachers i wouldn't want to deal with everything they … i fully support the teachers i wouldn't want to deal with everything they have to,



    That's probably why you didn't CHOOSE to become a teacher;-)

    forget the fact teachers get paid more than nurses, and have better holidays

    probably yes, but a lot of teachers have to deal with things that they didn't CHOOSE to do

    Kitten13;1814974

    forget the fact teachers get paid more than nurses, and have better … forget the fact teachers get paid more than nurses, and have better holidays



    Better holidays? How so?

    In my opinion teachers get paid more than enough! 3 months paid holiday, cushty hours etc... Before you guts start about parents evenings and marking and meetings etc, they only teach 25 hours a week, the rest is free time to do planning marking etc.. You dont like the pay, get another joy that pays better!!!! Sorry to all the teachers but they really **** me off, getting paid upward of £25000 a year anything upto £70000 aint too bad!!!!

    Shengis;1814985

    Better holidays? How so?



    3 months holidays verses the month that most people get? hmmm let me think

    Kitten13;1814999

    3 months holidays verses the month that most people get? hmmm let me … 3 months holidays verses the month that most people get? hmmm let me think



    Just shows how little you actually know. Do you really think they do nothing during those 3 months? My brother in laws girlfriend is a teacher and we went to stay with them for a week, hardly saw her as she spent most of her 'holiday' going to meetings and marking coursework :x

    Shengis;1815010

    Just shows how little you actually know. Do you really think they do … Just shows how little you actually know. Do you really think they do nothing during those 3 months? My brother in laws girlfriend is a teacher and we went to stay with them for a week, hardly saw her as she spent most of her 'holiday' going to meetings and marking coursework :x



    My brother and sister in law are teachers, dont see them doing much, maybe an hour or so at the weekend, and at end of year when coursework has got to be marked, the rest is done in the FREE lessons planned into their timetable. Be a teacher, get paid loads and have an easy life in my opinion!!!

    my mum worked in schools for most of my life, alot of my friends are teachers. just because that is what happend with your bils g/f does not mean that is the president for all teachers

    While not all teachers are paid as much as 25k a year, they DO choose their career. Nobody forces them to go to work. If they don't like what they are paid, or their terms and conditions they are free to look for work elsewhere. If this was to be the case and all teachers took a stand for what they believed in by leaving the proffession, not striking, surely we would see a change in the rate of pay offered?

    Shengis;1815010

    Just shows how little you actually know. Do you really think they do … Just shows how little you actually know. Do you really think they do nothing during those 3 months? My brother in laws girlfriend is a teacher and we went to stay with them for a week, hardly saw her as she spent most of her 'holiday' going to meetings and marking coursework :x



    my mother in law and sis in law are teachers andi do get annoyed with all the holidays they get, i constantly start debates to aggrevate them lol, but i have to say they never do any work during there holidays they always go away, maybe it depends what age group you are teaching, but i would of thought planning the lessons etc woudl be required but my sis in law gets time off during working hours to plan for her lessons

    Original Poster

    dcx_badass;1814973

    OMG not another idiot who posts this **** without doing research. Let me … OMG not another idiot who posts this **** without doing research. Let me explain.The news say this every year. What this actually means is the few sad teachers who give up there holidays and go to the pointless union conference have voted for it. It now gets sent out to every teacher who is a member of the union. Most who will vote no to the strike and it never happens. Just stupid people who do no research post this every year.



    There is no need to be so darn rude about someones post .... a few manners in the forum please:x
    I really think an apology for calling me an idiot would be the right thing to do here ..... & from the sibling of a teacher too .... hummmmmmmmmmmm

    dcx_badass;1815038

    First everyone just ignored my above post. GO AND READ IT. And My mums a … First everyone just ignored my above post. GO AND READ IT. And My mums a teacher and spends about 40% of each holiday in school, and a fair bit of time at home working aswell, they have to do laods of paper work now, with lessons plans for every single day. And a lot of other things.



    Surely once the plans are done they can be used year in year out, the curriculum (probably wrong spelling) doesnt change every year?

    Kitten13;1815042

    my mum worked in schools for most of my life, alot of my friends are … my mum worked in schools for most of my life, alot of my friends are teachers. just because that is what happend with your bils g/f does not mean that is the president for all teachers



    Things change. As somebody else said, more paperwork, more BS. To be honest I don't care one way or the other as I also take the stance, if you don't like the job, there's the door :lol: What I do take offence at though is everybody being painted with the same lazy brush as not all schools operate the same:thumbsup:

    dcx_badass;1815092

    Sorry Snowtiger, but this thread is full of such ignorant people.Wow … Sorry Snowtiger, but this thread is full of such ignorant people.Wow that's one example, that must be a secondary school I guess? I know for a fact that most the local primary schools, including where my mum works they don't get any free lessons, they have to do it all at home, she usually does 2 hrs at school after its finished, then 2 or 3 hours at home in the evening.



    Primary school, come on be serious, theres even less work to do there, its only just basic teaching that anyone with half a brain can do, basic maths, basic English, basic everything!!! :thumbsup:

    i dont know how main stream schools work but the teachers at my sons school do a lot more than 25 hours a week. during lunchtime they are sitting with the children while they try and grab a bite of their own food, i have had to pick my son up before now due to bus problems and the teachers are still there after 4pm even though the kids have left at 3.15. and they are there a while before 9am too. i have also had phone calls from my sons new teacher after 5pm while he is at home to discuss things with me and that is in his own time.
    corinne

    rosalie;1815106

    i dont know how main stream schools work but the teachers at my sons … i dont know how main stream schools work but the teachers at my sons school do a lot more than 25 hours a week. during lunchtime they are sitting with the children while they try and grab a bite of their own food, i have had to pick my son up before now due to bus problems and the teachers are still there after 4pm even though the kids have left at 3.15. and they are there a while before 9am too. i have also had phone calls from my sons new teacher after 5pm while he is at home to discuss things with me and that is in his own time. corinne



    They get paid EXTRA to do lunch time and home time duties, sometimes even given pc's and laptops as incentives. Nothing is done for free! Even the odd hour here and there doesnt make up for 3 months paid holiday

    MANJ_007;1815113

    They get paid EXTRA to do lunch time and home time duties, sometimes even … They get paid EXTRA to do lunch time and home time duties, sometimes even given pc's and laptops as incentives. Nothing is done for free! Even the odd hour here and there doesnt make up for 3 months paid holiday



    Not quite sure how that works as most teachers afaik are salaried......

    I agree they have alot of paperwork to fill in and the added pressure of getting all their pupils up to the national standards. When I was at primary school, I rarely had homework - I was free to enjoy my childhood once out of school. Now my daughter has at least 4 to 5 lots of homework to complete every week!
    I think their pay is fair and don't forget they get a decent pension upon retirement too! There's far more stressful jobs out there with low pay!

    dcx_badass;1815144

    Who the hell told you that? They don't get paid extra for lunch and break … Who the hell told you that? They don't get paid extra for lunch and break duties its part of the jobs, and they don't get computers and laptops or incentives, what dream world do you live in.



    Oh yes they do, as i said my bro and sis in law have laptops for doing EXTRA duties, i.e, lunch time and after school one day a week! Anyway enough said ive had enough of u now! Seeya

    dcx_badass;1815167

    That is one example, I'm sure there are exceptions to everything.



    2 different counties same policy!

    Shengis;1815010

    Just shows how little you actually know. Do you really think they do … Just shows how little you actually know. Do you really think they do nothing during those 3 months? My brother in laws girlfriend is a teacher and we went to stay with them for a week, hardly saw her as she spent most of her 'holiday' going to meetings and marking coursework :x



    What level does she teach at? My brother is teaching at an agricultural college and also has to go in most of the holidays. He says there's still work to do, although it is slightly easier as there's no students!! :giggle:

    I do think that much more is probably expected from college and university tutors in regards to going into work during the holidays than is required from secondary school and lower.

    duckmagicuk2;1815175

    What level does she teach at? My brother is teaching at an agricultural … What level does she teach at? My brother is teaching at an agricultural college and also has to go in most of the holidays. He says there's still work to do, although it is slightly easier as there's no students!! :giggle:



    All I know is she works with the younger ones. I don't understand all this year 5 year 7 year 12 stuff, it's all latin to me :lol: All I can say is she works in the Manchester area and when we've been up visiting she's come back in tears because of how deprived the kids are that she's teaching etc. Not a job I would want to do.

    Original Poster

    dcx_badass;1815229

    Well not around here, my mum teaches in 4 schools in 2 education … Well not around here, my mum teaches in 4 schools in 2 education authorities and none of them give teachers laptops or other incentives. And out of the 4 schools, one of them gives teachers 1hr a week out of lessons to do it paper work.


    & this is why she had no time to teach you any manners then ?
    re calling snowtiger an idiot & stupid ............

    Those having a go at teachers clearly have no idea what they are talking about, armchair comments are great fun but please get off your **** and do some research into the industry before sticking your oar in.


    It's a bit more complex than 'teachers get 3 months off every year' or 'Aunties best mate is a teacher and she's never busy'. A lot of you have no idea what being a teacher involves and what problems teachers are facing at the moment.

    I teach in a special school and I have to say that any of you are welcome to spend a day with me and then tell me that teachers have an easy ride.... My job is working with boys with social, educational and emotional disorders. I get sworn at, told to go do things to my mother and tables and chairs thrown at me.
    The rewarding part is when the penny drops and the message we are trying to reach gets in. I begrudge anyone who says that we are not entitled to a few weeks off a year to recover from teaching this countries young and impressionable.
    Like I say, come and join me.

    Here we go, more moaning teachers, if its such a hard life get out of it and get another job, no one is forcing you to stay!

    Snowtiger you asked for an apology, you got one. Good manners would be to move on?

    Your right, why should they fight for better working conditions and recognition for the difficult job they do and have spent years studying to acheive?

    Spend some time in the classroom, on the front line and then come back to me with your comments.

    Oh yeah because the situation would be soo much better if all the teachers just upped and left :whistling:

    I think teachers, like all workers should be able to expect a reasonable increase in wages over time. The offering by the Gov is below inflation

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    i personally think they should be upping the wage of he work force that is so poorly paid first, but just my opinion

    Expect more of this from all government sector workers as Labour try to enforce below inflation long term pay deals across the board. In effect this is a pay drop in the face of rising food, fuel, transport and other general living costs.

    sassie;1815965

    i personally think they should be upping the wage of he work force that … i personally think they should be upping the wage of he work force that is so poorly paid first, but just my opinion




    All relative, those most poorly paid arguably have poorly skilled jobs that require minimal effort, responsibility and training. In the case of teaching a either a teaching degree or a standard degree + years bolt on course is required and the job has massive responsibility and effor coupled with increasing workloads, class sizes and the pressure of inspections, accountability and staffing.

    Banned

    Ritchie 2;1815989

    All relative, those most poorly paid arguably have poorly skilled jobs … All relative, those most poorly paid arguably have poorly skilled jobs that require minimal effort, responsibility and training. In the case of teaching a either a teaching degree or a standard degree + years bolt on course is required and the job has massive responsibility and effor coupled with increasing workloads, class sizes and the pressure of inspections, accountability and staffing.



    yes i agree, you forgot to mention that they have nothing to barter with, no-one to back them, sadly it doesnt mean they need less money, and from the education i have seen given to my son and daughter teachers get well paid this

    Does that go for college tutors also? so we will have a day off on the 24th?

    TGWU cover non skilled workers, anyone can join.

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    Ritchie 2;1816032

    TGWU cover non skilled workers, anyone can join.



    all i can say to that is lmao, and will leave it there
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