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    Need some advice on how to create some space on my laptop. I'm having trouble installing programmes when needed. The summary of the space available states that I have 0% free space (about 312mb). I went through the programmes that I don't use anymore and uninstalled them, but that hasn't really created any space. I've done a disk clean up which again didn't do much.

    The funny thing is I don't really have many programs installed on the laptop, but I think most of the space is being used up by the updates that microsoft downloads and installs for windows.

    I need to install some security as I was experiencing problems with the one I had so I uninstalled it but now when I go to install a new one it states there is not enough space.

    any tips much appreciated!

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    Oh thats if you have enough space to download the above.
    Try the CCleaner first.
    This prog is excellent for cleaning all rubbish off computer.
    tune-up.com/pro…es/

    run windows disk clean up wizard

    Original Poster

    mattbisme

    run windows disk clean up wizard



    tried that, it didnt do anything really

    XP i take it?
    You could try and show the hidden system files.
    Pagefile.sys and hyberfil.sys can get notoriously large
    Pagefile.sys by default will be as big as your RAM memory, so could be, say 2Gb
    Hyberfil.sys is a file used for when you put your pc into hibernate mode

    You need to open up windows explorer (press windows key and E at same time)
    Click tools
    Folder Options
    View Tab
    Click show hidden files and folders

    Here's how MS explain it
    Is your recycle bin empty?

    Do this with great care and, of course i accept no liability for this
    I've done it before, it's no biggie but do with care
    Then, if you can salvage some disk space, do as above, install ccleaner and start that way....
    Edited by: "boydent999" 2nd Oct 2010

    if your documents are on you c drive, have a clear out of old crap and delete stuff from there.

    Original Poster

    Ive got Vista home basic, not got a lot of documents on it at all, it must be my itunes library that is taking up a lot of the space

    ran CCleaner and that created 500mb of space which is a start

    I have Win7 and i think it's very similar to Vista
    So, open up Windows Explorer
    Click on Organise (top left corner of screen)
    Folder and Search Options
    View tab
    Click show hidden file, folders and drives
    Untick hide protected operating system files

    Out of curiosity, how big is your HD then?

    Original Poster

    dcx_badass

    How big is your hard drive? What programs do you have on?My fully updated … How big is your hard drive? What programs do you have on?My fully updated Windows 7 Pro is using 18GB right now, Vista basic should be much less and your hard drive should be at least 120gb at a guess.



    Just checked the properties of C drive and its 65GB, got itunes, word and the usual explorer etc, no big other programs, just can't figure out where the space has gone, must be itunes

    Have you got a partition?
    Does it show a D,E,F drive etc that's not your dvd drive?

    Original Poster

    boydent999

    Have you got a partition?Does it show a D,E,F drive etc that's not your … Have you got a partition?Does it show a D,E,F drive etc that's not your dvd drive?



    yeah I've got a D drive listed on my computer, its called Recovery (D), its 50% free (10GB total size)

    Original Poster

    patti

    Oh thats if you have enough space to download the above.Try the CCleaner … Oh thats if you have enough space to download the above.Try the CCleaner first.This prog is excellent for cleaning all rubbish off computer.http://www.tune-up.com/products/tuneup-utilities/



    is there a free version of this program? Don't want the trial version

    Original Poster

    Boogie83e

    free http://onecare.live.com/site/en-us/default.htm



    right I'm running this now, hopefully it does some good

    System Restore may be using a fair chunk. You could just lower it down rather then disabling it.

    Since you have performed a disc cleanup and also uninstalled software only to find that the amount of free space appears stagnant, it is quite obvious that you have data files stored at the END of the hard disc. The disc cleanup and software uninstalls would remove files that, in all likeliness, existed in the middle or at the beginning of the hard disc. By deleting the software, it leaves gaps where the original files were, BUT the files that exist at the end of the hard disc still remains and this is why Windows reports the drive as almost full. The method of reporting disc size uses the location of the LAST file on the drive subtracted from the drive capacity.

    When you start writing files to the hard disc, it will fill in the gaps left by the uninstall and the System Clean Up but, of course, you would prefer a more accurate indication of free space. If you perform a disc defragmentation (Vista has a disc defragmenter built in, so there is no need for 3rd party programs as they all perform exactly the same job), the gaps left by the uninstall will be filled by files at the END of the hard drive. After the disc defragmentation, you will be able to see a more reliable indication of free hard drive space.

    Windows update files are stored in \Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download . You can remove the contents of this directory if you wish.

    To view sizes of all folders and subfolders on your drive, you can try Treesize from jam-software.com/fre…tml

    System Restore has been mentioned and indeed it does use hard disc space for storage of Restore Points but you will still need to perform a disc defragmentation since Windows is reporting the size based on the location of the last file on the drive.
    Edited by: "ElliottC" 2nd Oct 2010

    dcx_badass

    Ahahahahahahahaha dead god that was the best laugh I've had in ages, what … Ahahahahahahahaha dead god that was the best laugh I've had in ages, what a load of bull ****. Windows does not:At all, I genuinely fear that some of the people can give out advice, completely ignore that post. If you delete a file, no matter where it is stored on the hard drive, the available space will change. Please ignore everything they said.



    Ah yes you are absolutely right. Fragmented drives does not cause a misreporting of overall free space although incorrectly linked files to a file stored at the end of the drive would cause a misrepresentation of drive size. In this instance a disc defragmention would be a suitable method to use. It is certainly not to be ignored.

    The rest of the post is correct and is certainly not worth ignoring either.
    Edited by: "ElliottC" 2nd Oct 2010

    ElliottC

    Ah yes you are absolutely right. Fragmented drives does not cause a … Ah yes you are absolutely right. Fragmented drives does not cause a misreporting of overall free space although incorrectly linked files to a file stored at the end of the drive would cause a misrepresentation of drive size. In this instance a disc defragmention would be a suitable method to use. It is certainly not to be ignored.The rest of the post is correct and is certainly not worth ignoring either.



    Files containing hard links can cause strange hard disc space reports but they dont have to be at the end though.

    roryk83 yes its a trial version for 10 days. But when you run out of the trial people could still use it .It just comes up with your trial has expired and counts down in seconds and when count down finishes it still works.
    Did you not download Tree size ? it will tell you whats programs are using most of your hard drive.Its only a small program.
    Be careful on that iobit software as the Registry fixer is lethal.Clearing out old junk is ok but i wouldnt touch the Registry on it through that program.Ccleaner is better for registry

    Edited by: "patti" 2nd Oct 2010

    if you dont want upgrade the hard drive then you could move your music to an external hard drive (you might have to change the folder settings in itunes so it doesnt copy music back in when you play it, i dont use itunes so not sure about this)
    then just play the music from external drive and you should have plenty of space
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