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    The 12a certificate in cinemas (i hate)

    Having read a thread a minute ago regarding Dark knight and being a 12a it got me thinking about my hatred for the 12a certificate.

    Obviously companies want to be able to attract the biggest number of consumers to the cinema and so the 12a makes a lot of sense to them, previosuly the 12 certificate meant that if they made a a film a 15 then they would only lose 3 years of customers, now if they make a film a 15 they lose out on the full 15 years of possible consumers (in theory).

    What annoys me is films like.. Vantage point! That film just made me angry that they had obviously made a consious effort to cut blood and such from the film in order to squeeze it into the 12a certificate. In a way i couldnt stop thinking about the lack of blood and it really took away from the experience.

    Just wondering what other people think?

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    But then people sneak into 15 all the time, so the guidlines set don't make a difference, people look older. Its like how 15 year olds can get served for alcohol, no one cares as much. Obviously big retailers do, but the smaller ones.

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    spobby;2661051

    But then people sneak into 15 all the time, so the guidlines set don't … But then people sneak into 15 all the time, so the guidlines set don't make a difference, people look older. Its like how 15 year olds can get served for alcohol, no one cares as much. Obviously big retailers do, but the smaller ones.



    Im pretty sure most 12 year olds cant pass as 15.

    I dont care much for the guidlines but i hate seeing films that could have been better if the movie companies hadnt cut them to fit in with the 12a guidlines

    Its all about making money... If parents can take their kids... then they'll do it. Money spinning. I remember when spiderman was ment to be 15 back in the day :whistling:

    spobby;2661085

    Its all about making money... If parents can take their kids... then … Its all about making money... If parents can take their kids... then they'll do it. Money spinning. I remember when spiderman was ment to be 15 back in the day :whistling:



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    spobby;2661085

    Its all about making money... If parents can take their kids... then … Its all about making money... If parents can take their kids... then they'll do it. Money spinning. I remember when spiderman was ment to be 15 back in the day :whistling:



    Yeah i understand why they are doing it but it annoys me, like Die hard 4 was made a 15 when it really should have been an 18.. he didnt even say his trademark line properly!

    For example the BBFC stipulate that a 12 or 12a may not:

    Frequently use words such as the F word
    Dwell on sexual nudity
    Do more than imply sex
    Dwell on violent detail or emphasise injuries or blood
    Glamorise weapons or dwell on imitable techniques
    Instruct or glamorise drug use

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    I think everyone does, especially after the embaressing 3rd

    Titchimp;2661120

    I think everyone does, especially after the embaressing 3rd


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    Titchimp;2661120

    I think everyone does, especially after the embaressing 3rd



    am i missing something

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    bigbob909;2661131

    am i missing something



    If you have an N95 or something you can scan the pic and it turns it to writing. lol.

    mumm2b said she hates spiderman

    I thought the content of The Dark Knight impressively pushed its 12A rating. However Die Hard 4.0 would still have been poor even with the violence and language of its predecessors.

    I hate 12A. My son is only nine and he thinks that because something is 12A he should have the right to see it.
    I really dont feel that he is old enough for The Dark Knight yet so he isn't seeing it. If the censors think something should be a 12 then they should make it a 12. This A business just creates arguments in our household and I assume it's to do with pressure from the studios regarding film takings.

    Always comes down to the money!

    Titchimp;2661065

    Im pretty sure most 12 year olds cant pass as 15.



    I used to do some mystery shops for enforcement of 16 year olds and knives/blades etc
    I took my friends 12 year old daughter - who didnt look 12 - you had to stand to observe the reactions from the members of staff so we would enter the shop seperately and I would look at something or go through another checkout so it was observed but she was shopping on her own to anyone looking - and 90% of the time she was served without a blink and that was passing for 16 not 15


    and as for 12A and the dark knight - well my comments are already posted so I wont repeat them - surfice it to say there may well be a 12A rating in my house later when his father brings him home!

    I was always confused how I managed to see Batman Returns at the cinema as I was only ten/eleven at the time. Must have been a 12 at the cinema and a 15 cert on video.

    The first Spiderman was a 15

    natversion1;2668556

    The first Spiderman was a 15


    and was dropped to a 12a a few weeks in.

    t0mm;2668573

    and was dropped to a 12a a few weeks in.



    Yup weird ratings

    As for the 12A I think movie makers can make it work if they try. I didn't feel that Batman had anything taken away without showing some of the violence

    The BBFC are generally very good at rating movies so if I were a parent I wouldn't take my child to a 12A movie if they weren't 12 or over.
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