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    The Best Media Centre - Ever (*NOW Only £139.99 - I'm chuffed)

    I wanted to share this with ya, because i think some of ya may be interested in this.

    I've had various types of media centres for a while, pretty much all of them i've been dissapointed with to a degree. My xbox with XBMC coming closest to what i wanted.

    Finally - few months ago what i wanted became a reality :).

    The Acer Revo (A Nettop):

    ebuyer.com/pro…153

    With an ION GPU, 270 Atom CPU and 1GB of RAM for £149.99 inc delivery..

    What is incredible though, is it can run not only 720p without any problems.. But also 1080p.. Which i find astonishing. Nvidia ION really is impressive.

    youtube.com/wat…leE (Nice video here showing 1080p performance)

    It's as easy as buying it.. Whack XBMC Live on it (You boot from a USB Stick, installs a light version of linux and XBMC).. Then away to you, boots up and goes straight into XBMC.

    Of course you have to do a couple of tweaks to get perfect performance, change shared memory with CPU in BIOS.. Add a couple of lines to a file to get the right hsync, vsync and modelines for your TV etc.. But thats about it.

    I bought a Microsoft MCE Remote for it for £10 second hand.. You can easily add another 1GB of RAM if you wanna put Windows 7 on it as a dual boot, that way you get better performance in windows.. I'm running 1GB on mine atm and it's perfect on XBMC, i do have an extra 1GB coming though so Windows 7 is snappy

    I can't just believe the performance to price point.. £149.99.. I'm godsmacked and so far chuffed to bits with my new media centre :).

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    Original Poster

    I have a modified version of Aeon skin for it on mine, Hitcher mod. Which you can get more details here, it's incredibley snappy and very good looking :).

    xbmc.org/for…081

    This looks jaw-dropping on my 50" Samsung 1080p Plasma at 1920x1080:

    Oh and for all.. Video of my Acer Revo is action (GUI, Playing 480p, 720p and 1080p vids)

    interworks.com/blo…evo

    Above is a guide on how to install the image to the Acer Revo and what BIOS adjustments to make for 1080p playback..

    xbmc.org/for…ttp

    Above is link to ION optimized version of the XBMC install.

    xbmc.org/for…081

    Above is the version of the Aeon skin i used

    xbmc.org/for…ana

    Above is the thread on how to set your Acer Revo up in general and set modelines

    Then if you go onto XBMC forum, the XBMC Live sub forum.. Plenty of other handy tips and tricks if need them.

    youtube.com/wat…DcM

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    so does xmbc find the pictures for the movies/programs youve got?

    ive never used it, it looks really slick though, i just use my ps3 for my files but HD rips i copy on my usb pen drive and then dump them onto the ps3 HDD

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    I was looking at something very similar (might even have been this one) in PCW for £229 last week.

    It was not knowing how it would handle MKV etc, that made me think it wasn't worth it. So it plays these files fine with no judder of glitches? I'm surprised if it does tbh.

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    numptyj;7759425

    so does xmbc find the pictures for the movies/programs youve got?ive … so does xmbc find the pictures for the movies/programs youve got?ive never used it, it looks really slick though, i just use my ps3 for my files but HD rips i copy on my usb pen drive and then dump them onto the ps3 HDD



    Oi Numpty ya pauper. You stick with your xbox! :w00t:

    you sold me one of the 'media centres you were dissapointed with'....glad I sold it on

    Original Poster

    numptyj;7759425

    so does xmbc find the pictures for the movies/programs youve got?ive … so does xmbc find the pictures for the movies/programs youve got?ive never used it, it looks really slick though, i just use my ps3 for my files but HD rips i copy on my usb pen drive and then dump them onto the ps3 HDD



    So example is on my setup.. You add a source..

    One of mine being C:\MEDIA\Movies (This is on my main PC, u can search over ya network for it).

    Then you goto the settings of that source, just tell it that it's a movies folder for the library... Providing all of ya movies of named correctly, ie: "The Matrix.avi" and not "Tha M4trix.avi". It will automatically download all the cover and thumbnail art to your revo.

    guv;7759436

    I was looking at something very similar (might even have been this one) … I was looking at something very similar (might even have been this one) in PCW for £229 last week.It was not knowing how it would handle MKV etc, that made me think it wasn't worth it. So it plays these files fine with no judder of glitches? I'm surprised if it does tbh.



    I was shocked it did it to.. But basically providing you have it set to use GPU accelrated video (This is just in the normal settings of XBMC) and you set the shared memory for the GPU in the bios. . It uses the ION to run any video files..

    I watched a 1080p film without one single frame drop, it really is that good.

    If you check the youtube video in my post - it shows the acer revo playing a 1080p sample file. Which is a screen from Planet Earth, very very high biterate 1080p file.. Runs perfectly :).

    bazzaric;7759459

    you sold me one of the 'media centres you were dissapointed with'....glad … you sold me one of the 'media centres you were dissapointed with'....glad I sold it on



    Hehe.. It did the job "ok".. Wasnt upto scratch tho for me hehe. Get one of these mate.

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    spritey;7759490

    SI was shocked it did it to.. But basically providing you have it set to … SI was shocked it did it to.. But basically providing you have it set to use GPU accelrated video (This is just in the normal settings of XBMC) and you set the shared memory for the GPU in the bios. . It uses the ION to run any video files.. I wathched a 1080p film without one single frame drop, it really is that good.If you check the youtube video in my post - it shows the acer revo playing a 1080p sample file. Which is a screen from Planet Earth, very very high biterate 1080p file.. Runs perfectly :).



    A bluray rip I downloaded the other day (its just a film - about 9GB in size) wont play on my lappy. I thought you needed at least a 2.6GHz C2D to play these without graphic acceleration? My Lappy is a 1.6GHz with a 3100 (I think) graphics card. Doesnt get anywhere near playing it!

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    guv;7759567

    A bluray rip I downloaded the other day (its just a film - about 9GB in … A bluray rip I downloaded the other day (its just a film - about 9GB in size) wont play on my lappy. I thought you needed at least a 2.6GHz C2D to play these without graphic acceleration? My Lappy is a 1.6GHz with a 3100 (I think) graphics card. Doesnt get anywhere near playing it!



    Yeah it's a testiment to how good an Nvidia ION GPU is, it basically takes over all the grunt of running the 1080p mkv.. Leaving the CPU to play with itself.

    I just think it's mental something with 1GB RAM runs 1080p this good. The GPU really does all the work here for video.

    Yeah 1080p rips i have are 8.7GB - 9GB.

    [url]www.xbmc.org[/url] - this has been around on Xobx for ages but the latest bits now make the xbox struggle a bit especially with the new skins.
    But still the best Media Center around and ye sit downloads all the artwork for Movies and TV Shows automatically.

    I was looking at getting this one and using XBMC Live - just got more disk and bot more power in it - and hook it up to the back of the tele

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    spritey;7759607

    Yeah it's a testiment to how good an Nvidia ION GPU is, it basically … Yeah it's a testiment to how good an Nvidia ION GPU is, it basically takes over all the grunt of running the 1080p mkv.. Leaving the CPU to play with itself.I just think it's mental something with 1GB RAM runs 1080p this good. The GPU really does all the work here for video.Yeah 1080p rips i have are 8.7GB - 9GB.



    Cool..... I got knocked on the Dell Zino a week or so ago for £200, so am in the market.

    How are you running? OS? Files from USB or network? How long is the keyboard cable and could it be extended?

    This is such a blokey thread.

    I'm off to paint my nails pink.

    Original Poster

    andrpro;7759626

    [url]www.xbmc.org[/url] - this has been around on Xobx for ages but the … [url]www.xbmc.org[/url] - this has been around on Xobx for ages but the latest bits now make the xbox struggle a bit especially with the new skins.But still the best Media Center around and ye sit downloads all the artwork for Movies and TV Shows automatically.



    Yeah XBMC has been going for donkeys years.

    It's only recently though that the Nvidia ION drivers and the XBMC Live installation have married together to the point where 1080p plays without dropping a single framerate, XBMC devs added a few options which really improve things.

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    ChipSticks;7759653

    This is such a blokey thread.I'm off to paint my nails pink.



    To the knitting thread ===================>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    guv;7759680

    To the knitting thread ===================>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>



    lol

    I just like the idea of a media centre... the rest is over my head..

    Still, my nails look nice! :-D

    Original Poster

    guv;7759642

    Cool..... I got knocked on the Dell Zino a week or so ago for £200, so am … Cool..... I got knocked on the Dell Zino a week or so ago for £200, so am in the market.How are you running? OS? Files from USB or network? How long is the keyboard cable and could it be extended?



    XBMC Live - you download the installation (ISO).. Either create a bootable USB stick or use an external CD drive to boot off it, then it's just a simple installation. Installs a lightweight version of linux in the background and XBMC on top, so whenever you turn it on it's straight into XBMC :).

    Media wise i just put all my sources are stuff on my main PC over the network, u could use a USB external HDD or even the HDD within the Revo to house ya stuff.

    The keyboard cable is average length.. Guess you could use a USB extension cable ye.. I personally bought a Microsoft MCE Remote, u dont need a keyboard at all within XBMC.

    spritey;7759703

    XBMC Live - you download the installation (ISO).. Either create a … XBMC Live - you download the installation (ISO).. Either create a bootable USB stick or use an external CD drive to boot off it, then it's just a simple installation. Installs a lightweight version of linux in the background and XBMC on top, so whenever you turn it on it's straight into XBMC :).Media wise i just put all my sources are stuff on my main PC over the network, u could use a USB external HDD or even the HDD within the Revo to house ya stuff.The keyboard cable is average length.. Guess you could use a USB extension cable ye.. I personally bought a Microsoft MCE Remote, u dont need a keyboard at all within XBMC.



    Do you have a USB receiver for the remote? Does it have to be 'line of sight'? Does it have Bluetooth?

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    bazzaric;7759728

    Do you have a USB receiver for the remote? Does it have to be 'line of … Do you have a USB receiver for the remote? Does it have to be 'line of sight'? Does it have Bluetooth?



    Yeah i bought the Microsoft MCE Remote with it's reciever for £10 second hand, you can normally pick them up for £10-15 either around these parts or on ebay. Na i don't need line of sight on mine.

    Equally other remotes will work, such as the Cyberlink. You just have the copy over the remotes profile to the Revo is all, although i believe the Cyberlink will work out of the box now like Microsoft MCE Remote.

    Na it doesn't have bluetooth..

    People either buy the Acer Revo or the ASRock for XBMC, seems like theyre the most reliable.

    The ASRock comes with a remote and inbuilt reciever (also bluray drive), but bare in mind its slightly higher spec and costs at least £300+ for that. Plus won't play 1080p any better than the lower spec'd Revo, as they both have the same GPU.

    spritey;7759793

    Yeah i bought the Microsoft MCE Remote with it's reciever for £10 second … Yeah i bought the Microsoft MCE Remote with it's reciever for £10 second hand, you can normally pick them up for £10-15 either around these parts or on ebay. Na i don't need line of sight on mine.Equally other remotes will work, such as the Cyberlink. You just have the copy over the remotes profile to the Revo is all, although i believe the Cyberlink will work out of the box now like Microsoft MCE Remote.Na it doesn't have bluetooth..People either buy the Acer Revo or the ASRock for XBMC, seems like theyre the most reliable. The ASRock comes with a remote and inbuilt reciever (also bluray drive), but bare in mind its slightly higher spec and costs at least £300+ for that. Plus won't play 1080p any better than the lower spec'd Revo, as they both have the same GPU.



    Agreed, I use a Revo and XBMC and its fantastic, definately the best media solution available for free :thumbsup:

    Try use that to play the FULL-HD movies, which the size should be between 30-50GB each, I bet it will struggle...
    And it does not play 3D does it?

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    Winter.Cloud;7760032

    Try use that to play the FULL-HD movies, which the size should be between … Try use that to play the FULL-HD movies, which the size should be between 30-50GB each, I bet it will struggle...And it does not play 3D does it?



    Errr.. Think you've got things muddled..

    Any online 1080p h.264 rips are standardized in a way, always coming out to around 8.7-9GB. Don't think i've ever seen a 30-40GB rip online lol, unless it's uncompressed.. Which no one brothers putting up, because well.. There would be no point lol.

    Here's how far off the mark you are..

    Planet Earth - 8 Episodes.. 1080p x264.. Comes to a total of 30GB, for an entire boxset lol. Between 3-5GB per episode.

    Btw 1080p x264 = FULL HD

    Then again proof that'll it'll play that uncompressed is.. You can hook up an external bluray player to the Acer Revo and it'll run blurays without framerate drop, you can get a custom ION based XBMC live installation off the forum.. Has all the tweaks put in already, which allows bluray via a external bluray drive.

    Then again Acer demo'd the Revo at CES, running Windows 7 and an external bluray drive running through it. So it's not suprising that XBMC got the functionality added.

    Winter.Cloud;7760032

    Try use that to play the FULL-HD movies, which the size should be between … Try use that to play the FULL-HD movies, which the size should be between 30-50GB each, I bet it will struggle...And it does not play 3D does it?



    3d tvs arent even out yet (nearly) and surely if you were paying all that money for a new set, you wouldnt comprimise your first 3d experience on it by watching a '3d rip' lmao when you could pay 15/20 quid for the bluey

    Spritey say a file is name "the matrix *enter the person who rips it here lol* (2008).divx or whatever, will it still find the artwork for the film? or does it simply have to be "the matrix.divx"

    does it find artwork for music also?

    I find the ps3 is pretty good for my media but i do like the way xmbc looks and the fact you can have artwork

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    numptyj;7760325

    3d tvs arent even out yet (nearly) and surely if you were paying all that … 3d tvs arent even out yet (nearly) and surely if you were paying all that money for a new set, you wouldnt comprimise your first 3d experience on it by watching a '3d rip' lmao when you could pay 15/20 quid for the blueySpritey say a file is name "the matrix *enter the person who rips it here lol* (2008).divx or whatever, will it still find the artwork for the film? or does it simply have to be "the matrix.divx"does it find artwork for music also?I find the ps3 is pretty good for my media but i do like the way xmbc looks and the fact you can have artwork



    Yerp, same for music aswell :).

    It'll have to be something like..

    "The Matrix.NAME OF PERSON WHO RIPPED IT.avi"

    or

    "The Matrix - NAME OF PERSON WHO RIPPED IT.avi"

    Things like that, XBMC wiki has a list of all acceptable formats for what they call "scraping"

    Guess feature i like - add the BBC iplayer plugin.

    Can watch BBC iPlayer from ya TV, great little GUI for it to.. Much better than PS3 hehe.

    You will find however that most online release groups structure their filenames, so they're scrap friendly anyway now :). Esp when it comes to TV episodes.

    With it being 7.1 is there an optical or coaxial out ?

    [Edit] It appears to not have. The 3610 does though. Might get that one instead dual core atom as well. £199 for pre order at ebuyer as well

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    dontasciime;7760412

    With it being 7.1 is there an optical or coaxial out ?[Edit] It appears … With it being 7.1 is there an optical or coaxial out ?[Edit] It appears to not have. The 3610 does though. Might get that one instead dual core atom as well. £199 for pre order at ebuyer as well



    Yeah just seen that - damn good price.. Out Febuary 10th..

    Might snap one of those up actually next month, as my parents now want an Acer Revo for the same reason.. So just sell them mine i bought at cost.

    spritey;7760584

    Yeah just seen that - damn good price.. Out Febuary 10th..Might snap one … Yeah just seen that - damn good price.. Out Febuary 10th..Might snap one of those up actually next month, as my parents now want an Acer Revo for the same reason.. So just sell them mine i bought at cost.



    Yeah my bIrthday on that day so I might treat myself although I think I have enough computers already this will be either 15 16 17 or 18 i've nearly lost count

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    What is boxee?

    guv;7762199

    What is boxee?



    [FONT=Verdana]It's a freeware media player centre, which operating system support for it including Windows and Linux.

    Edit - Here's a link to the main website for that software product.

    Boxee
    boxee.tv/

    Cheers, Scotty Boy! :thumbsup:[/FONT]

    actually a lot ofpeople do rip uncompressed blu-ray movies with the full hd audio and want that to playback fine over a network.

    I use a WDTV downstairs which is great, but i love my xbmc upstairs. I might look into this, what's the startup time like?

    I've never understood why someone doesn't make a box like a WDTV and run XBMC on it, the software is amazing.

    I've only just got mine to 'scrape' properly since switching skins (cheers Spritey) and it's brilliant. It even takes the episodes of TV shows i have and downloads the synopsis, lists it as the episode name rather than s2ep01 or whatever. Looks brilliant on my 26" LCD too.

    If i did something like you've done Spritey could i attach an external hard drive and access it over the network, like i do atm with the WDTV?

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    SOSAGES;7762319

    actually a lot ofpeople do rip uncompressed blu-ray movies with the full … actually a lot ofpeople do rip uncompressed blu-ray movies with the full hd audio and want that to playback fine over a network.



    Incredibley rare... Not to mention that streaming would never be spot on with a file of that size.. Sure, people will do there own rips for personal use.. You won't find one release group online actually doing that. Because there really is little point with x264.

    sancho1983;7762624

    If i did something like you've done Spritey could i attach an external … If i did something like you've done Spritey could i attach an external hard drive and access it over the network, like i do atm with the WDTV?



    Yerp.. Options with XBMC Live on the Revo are pretty much all the options you can think of.

    1) Put movies / content on it's own HDD and use
    2) Attach a external USB drive to the Revo and use
    3) Use your own PC and share the movies / content over the network
    4) Use a NAS and access it from the XBMC

    Even stream stuff from applications like Tversity.. Altho no reason to, because sharing a folder works perfectly fine.

    And if you connect an external HDD to the Acer Revo, you can share it through XBMC to the network.. You access the XBMC on Acer Revo as you would any windows PC going to the network.

    etc etc..

    Boxee is good.. But i prefer xbmc.. Boxee needs to mature a little bit yet in my opinion, although heavily linked to XBMC.. I do think boxee will eventually overtake XBMC.

    I like the WDTV thing, it's handy.. I do think however things like this are far superior, both with better GUI.. More options.. And also.. But more importantly, this is a PC aswell. So just whack on Windows 7 as a partition and bada boom, surf the web and gubbins from ya TV.

    ok i'm seriously tempted to get this. use my WDTV to play 720 (sometimes 1080) HD bluray rips, 6-9gb. AVIs and mkv's ripped from my DVD collection. I transfer the stuff from my PC over the network to the hard drive attached to the WDTV. The WDTV is connected to my sony amp via optical (my amp doesn't have HDMI)

    a. would i still be able to do this with the revo/xbmc?

    b. what would be the benefit? only the interface i presume

    Where can i download Aeon skin from, the xbmc download link takes me to a weird site that i can't work out

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    sancho1983;7763035

    ok i'm seriously tempted to get this. use my WDTV to play 720 (sometimes … ok i'm seriously tempted to get this. use my WDTV to play 720 (sometimes 1080) HD bluray rips, 6-9gb. AVIs and mkv's ripped from my DVD collection. I transfer the stuff from my PC over the network to the hard drive attached to the WDTV. The WDTV is connected to my sony amp via optical (my amp doesn't have HDMI)a. would i still be able to do this with the revo/xbmc?b. what would be the benefit? only the interface i presume



    sancho1983;7763064

    Where can i download Aeon skin from, the xbmc download link takes me to a … Where can i download Aeon skin from, the xbmc download link takes me to a weird site that i can't work out



    Yerp you could do this, just connect up the external HDD to the Revo.. Share it with XBMC, then transfer over... Simple :). But then u could just stream it from ya PC, save the fuss of transfering hehe.. So just put the USB External HDD on ya main PC (less clutter by the TV), then share ya media folder off that to the XBMC. It's what i do.. I have 1TB external hooked upto my PC.

    Benefit is mostly GUI ye, all the lovely art and info. Also the fact you can use it as a PC.

    Link to Aeon Skin i use:
    xbmc.org/for…081

    Link to optimized ION version of XBMC Live i use:
    xbmc.org/for…388

    Thanks man.

    Presume there's no optical out on it anywhere?

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    sancho1983;7763199

    Thanks man.Presume there's no optical out on it anywhere?



    Not on the £149.99 one nope..

    But the £199.99 which ebuyer will be selling on the 10th of Feb does:
    ebuyer.com/pro…588

    Wheres my rep!

    Just to add, I have an iPod touch and use this app to watch movies, play music and act as a normal remote. Looks the mutts nuts! collect3.com.au/xbm…te/
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