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    I would recommend the new Bold... I have last year's model (the 9000) and it still is a great (& reliable) piece of kit. To be honest, you can't go wrong with just about any BlackBerry, but avoid the Storm unless younhave a lot of patience.
    Hope this helps!
    Note: if you haven't done so already, I recommend a visit to the Crackberry Forums

    Gonna have to agree with JonnyIreland1. The new Blackberry Bold 9700 is the one to go for. The most stylish blackberry IMO and has that great 9000 keyboard. Fantasticly crisp screen, 3G, WIFI, opitcal trackpad etc. It's the one to go for! Check it out na.blackberry.com/eng…00/

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    JonnyIreland1;7334117

    I would recommend the new Bold... I have last year's model (the 9000) and … I would recommend the new Bold... I have last year's model (the 9000) and it still is a great (& reliable) piece of kit. To be honest, you can't go wrong with just about any BlackBerry, but avoid the Storm unless younhave a lot of patience.Hope this helps!Note: if you haven't done so already, I recommend a visit to the Crackberry Forums



    Thanks for that going to jump over there just now :thumbsup:

    Oops, forgot to answer some of the q's...
    .. The 'pin' is a unique ID number that each BlackBerry has.. They can be used to exchange free messages between BlackBerrys.
    As for buying on eBay, be VERY careful... If a handset has been previously used, then chances are that it has been set up/linked to a BlackBerry email service. Once linked, it is extremely difficult to have this reversed or reset which means the new owner can't set up the email functions correctly.
    As for data plans, you'll normally find that most carriers charge a monthly fee for data and a further fee for BlackBerry email service, the latter normally costs around £2.50-5.00 per month.

    Everyone nowadays has a blackberry,

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    silvertwister;7334134

    Gonna have to agree with JonnyIreland1. The new Blackberry Bold 9700 is … Gonna have to agree with JonnyIreland1. The new Blackberry Bold 9700 is the one to go for. The most stylish blackberry IMO and has that great 9000 keyboard. Fantasticly crisp screen, 3G, WIFI, opitcal trackpad etc. It's the one to go for! Check it out http://na.blackberry.com/eng/devices/blackberrybold9700/



    Thanks for the link. I like the look of this phone. How are the keys on it are they easy to use ? Im not going to be inserting letters here there and everywhere am i ?

    is the main difference between the 8520 and the 9700, the fact that 9700 has 3G?

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    JonnyIreland1;7334150

    Oops, forgot to answer some of the q's..... The 'pin' is a unique ID … Oops, forgot to answer some of the q's..... The 'pin' is a unique ID number that each BlackBerry has.. They can be used to exchange free messages between BlackBerrys.As for buying on eBay, be VERY careful... If a handset has been previously used, then chances are that it has been set up/linked to a BlackBerry email service. Once linked, it is extremely difficult to have this reversed or reset which means the new owner can't set up the email functions correctly.As for data plans, you'll normally find that most carriers charge a monthly fee for data and a further fee for BlackBerry email service, the latter normally costs around £2.50-5.00 per month.



    Thanks for the info. I will probably stay clear of ebay then.

    If you are buying secondhand, ask first to make sure the PIN has been released - it can be easily done while the owner has the account but it becomes a lot more difficult once it's been sold on. Many people aren't aware that it needs to be done but have no problem doing so when instructed. I definitely agree it's something to be very careful of though.

    John

    bargaincrazy09;7334255

    Thanks for the link. I like the look of this phone. How are the keys on … Thanks for the link. I like the look of this phone. How are the keys on it are they easy to use ? Im not going to be inserting letters here there and everywhere am i ?



    The keyboard I've found to be one of the best. I previously owned the the older Curve 8310 which again, fantastic to type on but I prefer the Bold's keyboard, they aren't as hard and clicky as the curves. Blackberrys in general are highly praised for their keyboards (portrait orientation phones), What do you mean by "letters here there and everywhere"? lol.. The numeric keypad is in the same format as most regular phones.

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    Check out the left half of the photo. Hopefully I understood your question and haven't went off on a tangent :thumbsup:

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    I just ment like if i was typing say the words *school of rock* i wouldny mistakenly type schgool if rick ? Like make easy spelling mistakes by pressing wrong keys lol.

    Got another question. What will i miss out on if i dont take the blackberry email thing ?

    Johnmcl7;7334650

    If you are buying secondhand, ask first to make sure the PIN has been … If you are buying secondhand, ask first to make sure the PIN has been released - it can be easily done while the owner has the account but it becomes a lot more difficult once it's been sold on. Many people aren't aware that it needs to be done but have no problem doing so when instructed. I definitely agree it's something to be very careful of though.John



    Yeah I agree with this, John has described it much better than I did. The problem I described is really only a problem if the seller hasn't released the pin before you buy it and you find out that they aren't helpful afterwards. Without the seller's help when buying a used BlackBerry with a pin already associated to an account, the carrier/BlackBerry will almost never be able to help.

    I bet thats as clear as mud lol, sorry!

    bargaincrazy09;7334800

    I just ment like if i was typing say the words *school of rock* i wouldny … I just ment like if i was typing say the words *school of rock* i wouldny mistakenly type schgool if rick ? Like make easy spelling mistakes by pressing wrong keys lol.Got another question. What will i miss out on if i dont take the blackberry email thing ?



    The BB email is good because it has instant "push" notifications, in simple terms it means that as soon as your inbox (say Gmail for example) receives an email, your BlackBerry should receive it instantly. If you use email a lot, it is worth it, especially if you can get it for an extra couple of quid each month.

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    JonnyIreland1;7334841

    The BB email is good because it has instant "push" notifications, in … The BB email is good because it has instant "push" notifications, in simple terms it means that as soon as your inbox (say Gmail for example) receives an email, your BlackBerry should receive it instantly. If you use email a lot, it is worth it, especially if you can get it for an extra couple of quid each month.



    Thanks for clearing that up :thumbsup:. Does anyone have any pros/cons about the curve8520 ?t-mobile are doing a decent deal just now for £25 a month you get 1000 minutes + unlimited texts then an extra £5 for the email.

    bargaincrazy09;7334800

    I just ment like if i was typing say the words *school of rock* i wouldny … I just ment like if i was typing say the words *school of rock* i wouldny mistakenly type schgool if rick ? Like make easy spelling mistakes by pressing wrong keys lol.Got another question. What will i miss out on if i dont take the blackberry email thing ?



    Ohh now I getcha lol well like most things it may take a while to get used to. However the learning curve is by no means steep. I'd say you will be typing error-free in less than a day. Once your thumbs become accustom to the size and spacing of the keyboard everything will be smooth sailing from then on! Errors are practically non-existent for myself now. Just one more thing, I've personally found that using the Blackberry's portrait-oriented keyboard to be a much better experience that many of the landscape QWERTY slider phones on the market ie Sony Ericsson's X1. :-D

    Oh yeah that Curve 8520 should be a nice handset, couple of guys at work have similar to those (they have the slightly older trackball version)... I liked them a lot apart from not having 3G (not sure if this one has).
    A good site for contract deals (in my opinion) is mobiles . co .uk
    -check them out, if only for price comparison purposes

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    silvertwister;7334930

    Ohh now I getcha lol well like most things it may take a while to get … Ohh now I getcha lol well like most things it may take a while to get used to. However the learning curve is by no means steep. I'd say you will be typing error-free in less than a day. Once your thumbs become accustom to the size and spacing of the keyboard everything will be smooth sailing from then on! Errors are practically non-existent for myself now. Just one more thing, I've personally found that using the Blackberry's portrait-oriented keyboard to be a much better experience that many of the landscape QWERTY slider phones on the market ie Sony Ericsson's X1. :-D



    Lol, thanks for clearing all that up. Appreciate all the info

    JonnyIreland1;7334947

    Oh yeah that Curve 8520 should be a nice handset, couple of guys at work … Oh yeah that Curve 8520 should be a nice handset, couple of guys at work have similar to those (they have the slightly older trackball version)... I liked them a lot apart from not having 3G (not sure if this one has). A good site for contract deals (in my opinion) is mobiles . co .uk-check them out, if only for price comparison purposes



    Yeah I've just been reading up about the 8520, and I think its sightly inferior to the 9700, because:

    -it has weaker battery life
    -it lacks 3G and GPS

    Apart from that its pretty much the same, and personally I think the 8520 looks better.

    As for deals the best deal I found on the 8520 is here:

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    Only trouble is for me, is that I need it to be on O2, and O2's deals are appalling. I therefore need to ring them up and try and get them to match the above deal.

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    Put off by the battery life now. Theres nothing worse than having to charge a phone all the time. Im not in the house a lot so would mean carrying a charger with me all the time just to be on the safe side. How does applications work on a blackberry then ? Can you download them ? Like msn,twitter etc ?

    There are a few differences between the 8520 and the 9700. As previously mentioned by hdizzle, the 8520 does lack the 3G, GPS and the battery life is slightly worse. I'd just also like to point out that the camera on the 9700 is of higher quality than the 8520 (3.2mp vs 2.0mp), and quite importantly, the screen resolution is much higher quality: 9700 (480x360 pixels) vs 8520 (320x240 pixels). The screen difference is very noticeable.

    It really depends on what you want though in your phone. I think the 8520 is a fine starter Blackberry or if your on a limited budget, however if you want what I would consider the best Blackberry to date, it HAS to be the 9700 :thumbsup:

    bargaincrazy09;7335057

    Put off by the battery life now. Theres nothing worse than having to … Put off by the battery life now. Theres nothing worse than having to charge a phone all the time. Im not in the house a lot so would mean carrying a charger with me all the time just to be on the safe side. How does applications work on a blackberry then ? Can you download them ? Like msn,twitter etc ?



    The battery life I've found to be quite good! I'd charge mine every 3 or 4 days but all the same I'm not a heavy user, ie wouldn't have WIFI or 3G constantly running.

    As for downloading applications.. you most certainly can! Apps can be downloaded through the Blackberry app store "App World".

    silvertwister;7335079

    There are a few differences between the 8520 and the 9700. As previously … There are a few differences between the 8520 and the 9700. As previously mentioned by hdizzle, the 8520 does lack the 3G, GPS and the battery life is slightly worse. I'd just also like to point out that the camera on the 9700 is of higher quality than the 8520 (3.2mp vs 2.0mp), and quite importantly, the screen resolution is much higher quality: 9700 (480x360 pixels) vs 8520 (320x240 pixels). The screen difference is very noticeable. It really depends on what you want though in your phone. I think the 8520 is a fine starter Blackberry or if your on a limited budget, however if you want what I would consider the best Blackberry to date, it HAS to be the 9700 :thumbsup:



    I completely agree with you there. You've summed everything up quite nicely. As you say the price difference is quite significant. The prices of these phones SIM free is indicative of the prices they're available for on [a decent] contract.

    So bearing in mind the differences silvertwister has highlighted, you need to judge for yourself whether you'd consider paying approx £180 more for the 9700.

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    I think the blackberry 9700 is the way forward then lol

    Great choice :thumbsup:

    Good choice. I do think though, that the 8520 is better looking!

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    Can someone tell me how to deativate the pin ? Im looking to buy a used 8520 until the 9700 comes down in price.

    organic ones

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    black gerbil1;7336137

    organic ones



    What ? Lol

    bargaincrazy09;7336089

    Can someone tell me how to deativate the pin ? Im looking to buy a used … Can someone tell me how to deativate the pin ? Im looking to buy a used 8520 until the 9700 comes down in price.



    The owner needs to contact their network and ask for the PIN to be released, it shouldn't need any more than that. Some BB sellers will understand this process and have done it already but there will be those that are not familiar with it. If you can't get a clearcut answer or the seller is unco-operative over this aspect, do not buy the device as without the PIN released the Blackberry can do little more then make/receive calls and texts.

    John

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    Johnmcl7;7337353

    The owner needs to contact their network and ask for the PIN to be … The owner needs to contact their network and ask for the PIN to be released, it shouldn't need any more than that. Some BB sellers will understand this process and have done it already but there will be those that are not familiar with it. If you can't get a clearcut answer or the seller is unco-operative over this aspect, do not buy the device as without the PIN released the Blackberry can do little more then make/receive calls and texts.John



    Thanks for that John i have let the seller know.

    bargaincrazy09;7337480

    Thanks for that John i have let the seller know.



    So are you buying the phone separately? Are you going to get a simplicity SIM and stick it in?

    Gosh this thread is making me want a 9700 badly, thanks bargaincrazy09!

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    Yeah im gonna buy it. Yeah i have a t-mobile sim only just now. Its on vodaphone though so need to see about where to get it unlocked?. Lol sorry my bad.

    I assume it's a contract one? If the seller contacts Vodafone they'll unlock it for nothing.

    John

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    Yeah they got it unlocked. They said when the unlocked it the pin becomes unlocked too is this correct ?

    just reading this thread is making me want a 9700, but im in two minds... get a 9700 or wait for a new iphone to come out... decisions decisions
    also tempted by the htc hd2!

    bargaincrazy09;7342549

    Yeah they got it unlocked. They said when the unlocked it the pin becomes … Yeah they got it unlocked. They said when the unlocked it the pin becomes unlocked too is this correct ?



    No don't think so.

    The PIN is related to Blackberry services which is independent of the network provider

    EliTom

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    Mhmm. The seller said that he can no longer acces his bis. Does this mean the pin has been deactivated then ?

    jat_r;7343559

    just reading this thread is making me want a 9700, but im in two minds... … just reading this thread is making me want a 9700, but im in two minds... get a 9700 or wait for a new iphone to come out... decisions decisions :(also tempted by the htc hd2!



    tell me about it! I would personally go for the 9700 out of them all tbh. The iphone will be immense but overpriced, and the 9700 is all about the connectivity i.e texting/BBM/etc.

    bargaincrazy09;7343735

    Mhmm. The seller said that he can no longer acces his bis. Does this mean … Mhmm. The seller said that he can no longer acces his bis. Does this mean the pin has been deactivated then ?



    I would be suspicious!

    If the seller has used it on BIS and cannot confirm 100% it is PIN released then walk away - as mentioned before you will have a devils own job to get it sorted.

    Anyone who know the Blackberry knows how important this is and knows how to do its - its only a call to the network the BB was used on !

    I would say in this case even if he says it is released either ask him to prove it on get a money back guarantee!

    hth

    EliTom

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    elitom;7344232

    I would be suspicious!If the seller has used it on BIS and cannot confirm … I would be suspicious!If the seller has used it on BIS and cannot confirm 100% it is PIN released then walk away - as mentioned before you will have a devils own job to get it sorted.Anyone who know the Blackberry knows how important this is and knows how to do its - its only a call to the network the BB was used on !I would say in this case even if he says it is released either ask him to prove it on get a money back guarantee!hthEliTom



    How do you suggest that i can get him to prove it ? Is there any settings etc that he can take a picture of?
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