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    Yes, the 2010 FIFA World Cup of football/soccer in real life.

    With Fernando Torres leading the attack, he will take Spain to glory once more again.

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    Liverpool believe a persistent groin injury may deprive Fernando Torres of the chance to play for Spain at the World Cup.
    Full story: The Times

    meh............

    I back Brazil as always, they always have the best players and kick ass

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    DarkKnight;7117474

    I back Brazil as always, they always have the best players and kick ass



    Does Brazil have a better attacking force in Torres and Villa?

    The midfield of Alonso, Xavi, Iniesta and Fabregas?

    torres88;7117487

    Does Brazil have a better attacking force in Torres and Villa?The … Does Brazil have a better attacking force in Torres and Villa?The midfield of Alonso, Xavi, Iniesta and Fabregas?



    Yes

    Supermod

    torres88;7117487

    Does Brazil have a better attacking force in Torres and Villa?The … Does Brazil have a better attacking force in Torres and Villa?The midfield of Alonso, Xavi, Iniesta and Fabregas?



    On paper England have just as good options in Gerrard, Lampard, Barry, Carrick, Hargreaves...different style but just as effective.

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    magicjay1986;7117555

    On paper England have just as good options in Gerrard, Lampard, Barry, … On paper England have just as good options in Gerrard, Lampard, Barry, Carrick, Hargreaves...different style but just as effective.



    on paper........................

    on the field its a completely different story

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    dimebars;7117566

    on paper........................on the field its a completely different … on paper........................on the field its a completely different story



    I disagree. I said "on paper" as you could put any of those players in the England team against Spains midfield and it would be a cracking battle.

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    magicjay1986;7117555

    On paper England have just as good options in Gerrard, Lampard, Barry, … On paper England have just as good options in Gerrard, Lampard, Barry, Carrick, Hargreaves...different style but just as effective.



    Heskey and Rooney
    or
    Torres and Villa?

    The creative side of Spain midfield is well above England.

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    torres88;7117577

    Heskey and Rooneyor Torres and Villa?The creative side of Spain midfield … Heskey and Rooneyor Torres and Villa?The creative side of Spain midfield is well above England.



    I'd say they're well-matched, but it's hard for Spain to stay at their peak over a long period - just look what happened in the Confederations Cup.

    FilthAndFurry;7117639

    I'd say they're well-matched, but it's hard for Spain to stay at their … I'd say they're well-matched, but it's hard for Spain to stay at their peak over a long period - just look what happened in the Confederations Cup.



    Look what happened to England in Euro 2008

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    torres88;7117577

    Heskey and Rooneyor Torres and Villa?The creative side of Spain midfield … Heskey and Rooneyor Torres and Villa?The creative side of Spain midfield is well above England.



    Rooney or Villa - Rooney
    Rooney or Torres - ...tough call. Both goalscorers (Torres edging) but Rooney offers more to a game.

    Why are we limiting it to creativity? There is PLENTY more to a midfield than just creativity. You have just cited what Spain are known for.

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    DarkKnight;7117687

    Look what happened to England in Euro 2008



    I agree - the improvement is remarkable.

    FilthAndFurry;7117749

    I agree - the improvement is remarkable.



    But we haven't seen them in a major competition since, so there is no comparison to be made so far, they may do alright in friendlies etc but when it comes to the big cheeses then it's a different ball game

    We have just as good a chance as Spain if we can get the team just right.
    Also Gerrard & Lampard are as good as any Spanish Midfielder.
    Although DarkKnight talks rubbish I'd have to agree that Brazil are the team to beat as usual.

    Supermod

    If Torres is injured between now and then I really see their hopes hugely dented. Same if Rooney gets injured. Both of these players are the first names on the teamsheet.

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    stgeorge;7117810

    We have just as good a chance as Spain if we can get the team just … We have just as good a chance as Spain if we can get the team just right.Also Gerrard & Lampard are as good as any Spanish Midfielder.Although DarkKnight talks rubbish I'd have to agree that Brazil are the team to beat as usual.




    This is the biggest problem with the British media, they always!!! overhype their team before any major competition.

    magicjay1986;7117822

    If Torres is injured between now and then I really see their hopes hugely … If Torres is injured between now and then I really see their hopes hugely dented. Same if Rooney gets injured. Both of these players are the first names on the teamsheet.



    I love Rooney but I think also Gerrard & Lennon are going to be important.
    Lets just hope whoever go's in goal doesn't go mental as this is always a big worry for me.

    torres88;7117864

    This is the biggest problem with the British media, they always!!! … This is the biggest problem with the British media, they always!!! overhype their team before any major competition.



    Everything I said is true & I don't work in the British media :?

    Brazil FTW
    Allow the other Minors. :thumbsup:
    And BTW Fabiano on his day is as leathal as Torres.

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    stgeorge;7117896

    Everything I said is true & I don't work in the British media :?



    Not your fault mate, the British media, hypnotize the British public before any major tournament, especially in football.

    btw. Does England avoid Brazil and Spain till the final? As they are in the other half of the draw?

    Ricardo Kaka;7117921

    Brazil FTWAllow the other Minors. :thumbsup:And BTW Fabiano on his day is … Brazil FTWAllow the other Minors. :thumbsup:And BTW Fabiano on his day is as leathal as Torres.



    3rd favourites now :whistling:

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    Ricardo Kaka;7117921

    Brazil FTWAllow the other Minors. :thumbsup:And BTW Fabiano on his day is … Brazil FTWAllow the other Minors. :thumbsup:And BTW Fabiano on his day is as leathal as Torres.



    Haha cheers for the laugh ;-)

    torres88;7117926

    Not your fault mate, the British media, hypnotize the British public … Not your fault mate, the British media, hypnotize the British public before any major tournament, especially in football.btw. Does England avoid Brazil and Spain till the final? As they are in the other half of the draw?



    Not me, I just know if our full first team plays to its potential we have a better chance than all the anti English mob try & make out.
    Lets just wait until the world cup & see what happens :thumbsup:

    Starr;7117936

    3rd favourites now :whistling:



    Hmmm.
    Just beacause there in the "Group of death" i suppose.
    Portugal Are Nothing Compared, They Try Playing Brazil's Game And Fail Big Time. ;-)
    Brazil Beat Them Last Year 6-2 With Near Enough The Same Team's As Now.

    stgeorge;7117976

    Not me, I just know if our full first team plays to its potential we have … Not me, I just know if our full first team plays to its potential we have a better chance than all the anti English mob try & make out.Lets just wait until the world cup & see what happens :thumbsup:



    Best thing for it although.....

    England win
    Anti England mob will moan as we got the easiest route.

    England fail
    Anti England mob will boast.

    win/win for them eh?

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    torres88;7117926

    Not your fault mate, the British media, hypnotize the British public … Not your fault mate, the British media, hypnotize the British public before any major tournament, especially in football.btw. Does England avoid Brazil and Spain till the final? As they are in the other half of the draw?



    For British you should read English

    Ricardo Kaka;7117980

    Hmmm.Just beacause there in the "Group of death" i suppose.Portugal Are … Hmmm.Just beacause there in the "Group of death" i suppose.Portugal Are Nothing Compared, They Try Playing Brazil's Game And Fail Big Time. ;-)Brazil Beat Them Last Year 6-2 With Near Enough The Same Team's As Now.



    Last time I watched Portugal they were awful, they'll have to step things up just to qualify let alone beat Brazil.

    Ricardo Kaka;7117980

    Hmmm.Just beacause there in the "Group of death" i suppose.Portugal Are … Hmmm.Just beacause there in the "Group of death" i suppose.Portugal Are Nothing Compared, They Try Playing Brazil's Game And Fail Big Time. ;-)Brazil Beat Them Last Year 6-2 With Near Enough The Same Team's As Now.



    They will get through the group but just dont think they will win it, also they are playing some boring stuff, getting the results but this aint the Brazil a grew up with :-(

    torres88;7117974

    Haha cheers for the laugh ;-)



    :?
    Do you even know who Fabiano is ?
    Guess Not.
    :thinking:

    Starr;7118008

    They will get through the group but just dont think they will win it, … They will get through the group but just dont think they will win it, also they are playing some boring stuff, getting the results but this aint the Brazil a grew up with :-(



    I agree, i miss the days of Rivaldo, Ronaldo and Roberto Carlos etc

    DarkKnight;7118098

    I agree, i miss the days of Rivaldo, Ronaldo and Roberto Carlos etc



    Dont forget Cafu and the goal machine Romario

    Starr;7118119

    Dont forget Cafu and the goal machine Romario



    Cafu = Legend

    Denilson was great too

    Ricardo Kaka;7118015

    :?Do you even know who Fabiano is ? Guess Not. :thinking:



    I don't think they know too

    Fabiano - Brazil
    Appearances - 36
    Goals 25

    Torres - Spain
    Appearances - 71
    Goals - 23


    Fabiano has scored more goals than Torres for his country in only half of the appearances

    DarkKnight;7118180

    I don't think they know tooFabiano - BrazilAppearances - 36Goals 25Torres … I don't think they know tooFabiano - BrazilAppearances - 36Goals 25Torres - SpainAppearances - 71Goals - 23Fabiano has scored more goals than Torres for his country in only half of the appearances



    That'll Shut Mr Torres Up
    Inb4 The Exuses :thumbsup:

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    DarkKnight;7118180

    I don't think they know tooFabiano - BrazilAppearances - 36Goals 25Torres … I don't think they know tooFabiano - BrazilAppearances - 36Goals 25Torres - SpainAppearances - 71Goals - 23Fabiano has scored more goals than Torres for his country in only half of the appearances



    Stats can easily be manipulated. Can you give me the club record for both player?

    Clubs like City dont offer Liverpoolfc £70m for Torres for no reason.

    torres88;7118234

    Stats can easily be manipulated. Can you give me the club record for both … Stats can easily be manipulated. Can you give me the club record for both player?Clubs like City dont offer Liverpoolfc £70m for Torres for no reason.



    City Have Money Too Throw Away.
    Scouse Are In Debt.
    Simple.

    Oh And I Thought This Was Spain/Brazil.
    Hmmm
    Funny How it changed.

    torres88;7118234

    Stats can easily be manipulated. Can you give me the club record for both … Stats can easily be manipulated. Can you give me the club record for both player?Clubs like City dont offer Liverpoolfc £70m for Torres for no reason.



    We are talking about international teams, so how are the stats being manipulated?

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    Lol so that means Crouch is the best international foward in the world?

    18 goals in just 17 starts

    torres88;7118333

    Lol so that means Crouch is the best international foward in the world?18 … Lol so that means Crouch is the best international foward in the world?18 goals in just 17 starts:p



    Peter Crouch - England

    Appearances - 35
    Goals - 18

    Where are you getting your facts from?
    And the fact i just stated shows that Fabiano also holds a better record than Crouch too

    torres88;7118333

    Lol so that means Crouch is the best international foward in the world?18 … Lol so that means Crouch is the best international foward in the world?18 goals in just 17 starts:p



    :lol:
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