Think the head gasket on my car has gone/on its way out

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Found 13th Nov 2008
It was only skimmed june 07 but have just noticed that theres a milky gloop in the oil(yeah i finally found the 710 bottle lol) and I guess thats the reason why the heating seems to blow cold
is it driveable the way it is? only my lil one goes to the village school and its a good one and a half mile walk down a skinny country lane to get there and its freezin out there!
Obviously im not going to use the car for anything other than the school run until its been repaired but will i cause anymore harm by driving it the way it is?

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Depends, if you drive it and let it overheat then yes, but if it was already repaired and skimmed it might need a new engine/another part looking at anyway. If you drive it for a short period then not particularly. However, I wouldn't advise it, it might simply go at a moments notice and leave you looking rather stupid. You could prolong its pain by using a head gasket treatment which may or may not work for your specific circumstances.

Of course mayo in the oil cold could just be that it's never getting up to temperature.

Original Poster

what happens when they go completely?

If it goes suddenly you will loose all power and cover the whole area in a thick fog of steam.

Original Poster

oh not so nice then,the car hasnt been used much lately,only for about 5 miles a day if that but theres hardly any oil left in it,it wasnt long ago it had new oil either,maybe 2 months ish ago and the oil thats there has white gloopy creamy gunk

Well it is likely that the head gasket is on its way out as you guess, sorry. Remember its a lot easier to take a car for repair that is still running than one that has to be recovered there. However, it sounds like it wasn't repaired last time fully or properly. If you skim a head and replace the gasket, presuming that was the only cause of the problem and you do both properly, there is no reason why it should go again.

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I believe mgfs have a known problem with headgasket faults it just had to happen before xmas!
i shall do some ringing around this morning and see about prices of getting it sorted asap
thanks very very much for your help

You can still drive it with a head gasket gone but eventually it will over heat and the bottom end will also go. I know this cause our VR6 went last week but DH had been driving it with a head gasket gone for a couple of weeks. There is a test the garage can do to check if it definately is the HG its like a piece of paper they dip in and it changes colour.

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ahhh didnt know about the test,that would be handy,i wonder if i called the rac if they would come take a look and confirm for me

EBT;3449071

You can still drive it with a head gasket gone but eventually it will … You can still drive it with a head gasket gone but eventually it will over heat and the bottom end will also go. I know this cause our VR6 went last week but DH had been driving it with a head gasket gone for a couple of weeks. There is a test the garage can do to check if it definately is the HG its like a piece of paper they dip in and it changes colour.



Normally you should do a compression test on each cyclinder and compare to book values - it's not always a particulary useful test though. I was going to go on to explain the other things you can do but it is probably best to have a read of something like this, now that you mention it is a MGF.
forums.mg-rover.org/sho…523

i think you would do best to not drive it. You say its mile and a half to school? Why not walk? If you drive it you are doing the engine more damage. Basically your car has goo instead of oil. Now if in the spec for ur car it says you can have goo for oil your fine, but if it says oil your stuffed eh. Someone at my work has just had their head done, cost bout 750 including the cam belt too (worth getting done at same time). This is a known fault with mgs im afraid. That said it shouldn't go again so quick. But if all u use it for is a mile and a half school run it doesn't surprise me in the slightest. Sorry to sound harsh but a car is designed for distance. Bfm

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phew luckily managed to get a lift back boy its cold out there,spoke to a lady at the school who lives nearby and will collect my lil one for me til the cars repaired now to ring around and get some quotes.
dont think my cred card is gonna like me lol

There is a small chance that it may not be the head gasket, it could possibly just be the thermostat being stuck, that is a quite cheap and easy item to replace.

Good luck.:thumbsup:

From my past history with head gasket, dont drive it, send it to get repaired before it breaks, as if it completely breaks it will do more damage and cost a lot more to repair.

From my own expierience: pretend its not there = lots of costs to repair!

I learned the hard way - Twice!

Mardyass;3449037

oh not so nice then,the car hasnt been used much lately,only for about 5 … oh not so nice then,the car hasnt been used much lately,only for about 5 miles a day if that but theres hardly any oil left in it,it wasnt long ago it had new oil either,maybe 2 months ish ago and the oil thats there has white gloopy creamy gunk



My guess is the oil isnt getting up to temperature, since you've said you use it for school runs I'm going to also guess its been 2 x 2.5 mile trips per day which isn't going to get the oil up to temperature, plus the recent low atmospheric temperature... its not uncommon for oil to coagulate in winter temperatures and give you 'mayo' on the filler cap without there actually being a problem with the car.

I'd top it up with some oil and take it for a good long run, see if the mayo goes.

You're right in that the K-series engines int he MGF's had gasket issues, but they're not as common as people think and if its already been skimmed/re-gasketed they should have fitted a more robust gasket (freelander one usually I believe). If you've still got mayo every morning after giving it a good run, get it checked out, but don't assume the worst just yet.

Is there any coolant left? Any gunk in the collant? Before the HG went (or what you presume to be the headgasket) did you notice what temp the oil gauge was at? When my TF HG went the oil temperature was up to about 3/4 max and the engine temp was almost at max also. It's a very expensive job as I'm sure you know, luckily I got mine done under warranty

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got a guy coming down to take a look at it,there wasnt any water left in the car only dribbles in the bottom and thats got what looks like oil slicks in it
I did notice on tuesday that the car was running a bit odd,the blowers were still blowing cold and yet i left the car running for a good 20 mins and as it was just sat there running it made 2 rather loud popping noises which startled me yet the temp gauge was just below the red

Mardyass;3449739

got a guy coming down to take a look at it,there wasnt any water left in … got a guy coming down to take a look at it,there wasnt any water left in the car only dribbles in the bottom and thats got what looks like oil slicks in itI did notice on tuesday that the car was running a bit odd,the blowers were still blowing cold and yet i left the car running for a good 20 mins and as it was just sat there running it made 2 rather loud popping noises which startled me yet the temp gauge was just below the red



Sounds to me like you might have a cracked cylinder, Or core plug has gone, Quite serious and would probably result in a new engine, Put some water in and check under your car for any leakage, I had an Escort and the core plug had gone, I scraped it in the end.

Mardyass;3449739

got a guy coming down to take a look at it,there wasnt any water left in … got a guy coming down to take a look at it,there wasnt any water left in the car only dribbles in the bottom and thats got what looks like oil slicks in itI did notice on tuesday that the car was running a bit odd,the blowers were still blowing cold and yet i left the car running for a good 20 mins and as it was just sat there running it made 2 rather loud popping noises which startled me yet the temp gauge was just below the red



Yeah that'll be HGF then, oil in the Coolant is one of the main signs. People can replace the HG or skim the head (skimming can only be done once on each HG of course) but unless the actual cause of the problem is fixed there;s nothing to stop it from happening again. Luckily I've had 3 MG/Rovers and I've only once had HG problems.

Original Poster

sure enough it is the head gasket,got it booked in for a week saturday to be done,in the meantime i need to sort transport for the lil one as walking down a lonely country lane on an icy morning isnt pleasurable lol its a national speed limit road too despite it being a narrow country lane so it isnt the safest of routes with a lil one in tow and some of the drivers seem to drive down it as if theyre half an hour late for work!

phoenix_af;3450569

Yeah that'll be HGF then, oil in the Coolant is one of the main signs. … Yeah that'll be HGF then, oil in the Coolant is one of the main signs. People can replace the HG or skim the head (skimming can only be done once on each HG of course) but unless the actual cause of the problem is fixed there;s nothing to stop it from happening again. Luckily I've had 3 MG/Rovers and I've only once had HG problems.



Is skimming once a Rover engine specific thing? Most heads can be skimmed more than once, many cars even have maximum skim marks.

phoenix_af;3450569

Yeah that'll be HGF then, [COLOR=red]oil in the Coolant is one of the … Yeah that'll be HGF then, [COLOR=red]oil in the Coolant is one of the main signs[/COLOR]. People can replace the HG or skim the head (skimming can only be done once on each HG of course) but unless the actual cause of the problem is fixed there;s nothing to stop it from happening again. Luckily I've had 3 MG/Rovers and I've only once had HG problems.


i had an astra gsi 1991(i know its a different car to what we are talking about)
tool it in for a service at masterfit
and they phoned me about half hour later
youd better pick your car up
there is oil in the coolant
they basically said your just wasting your money looks like head gasket trouble
so picked it up and took it to a mechanic a few doors away
told him and he said no way is it head gasket as i hadnt had any running problems over heating etc.....pulled the water pipe off the engine and the coolant was green (antifreeze)
turns out the astra gsi can suffer with something called pourious head syndrome which i think mine may of
took the water tank off and cleaned it inside
car ran for another 4 years no problems until i sold it
although after a while the water tank got sludgy again
was a bit of a scare though
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