Are these just basically same as a sky + box? also are they any good?

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    It's pretty much the same as a Sky+ box with its plus and minus points.
    Tivo is still very big in america. As soon as Sky latched onto it over here, it seemed to die a very sudden death when Sky + came out. I did hear that there was going to be a relaunch kind of thing, but that was months ago. So doubt it will ever happen!
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