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    to be blunt - is this the solution..........

    where do these people come from -la la land
    The point of knives
    By Alan Connor
    BBC News Magazine
    Most fatal stabbings involve a weapon that is easy to obtain and sharp with it - a kitchen knife. Would stopping the sale of long blades with sharp points help save lives?

    What would reduce the number of fatal stabbings? England and Wales' Chief Inspector of Probation Andrew Bridges has warned against "spectacular innovations" and wants the debate to focus on "mundane truths".

    One idea, first proposed in 2005, is a response to a grisly mundane truth expressed by Met chief Ian Blair this week - that "the most common knife involved in these deaths is a knife from a kitchen".


    ;;The proposal came from three emergency medicine specialists, and it's a simple one: getting rid of the points on the ends of longer kitchen knives;;.



    Drs Emma Hern, Will Glazebrook and Mike Beckett wrote an editorial in the British Medical Journal, suggesting that since "many assaults are impulsive", government action could "drastically reduce the availability" of a "potentially lethal weapon".

    So what would the effect have been if, in 2003, the government had persuaded knife manufacturers to offer a greater range of styles, with the pointed-end, long-blade design no longer the default?

    Dr Beckett puts it simply: if long pointed knives had become less available, we would have seen fewer deaths from knife injuries.
    news.bbc.co.uk/1/h…stm

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    I read this and thought this,.....if knife points were removed, the sharp blade edge would still be there and i feel there would be more "slit" style knife attacks, ie sliting of necks etc. Removing the point is a stupid idea, what about scissors, needles, syringes, pins, nails, screws??? These would become the alternative choice.

    i suppose they have a point? (no pun intended)

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    clarelouise25;2540180

    i suppose they have a point? (no pun intended)

    :-D:-D

    she said bluntly

    hahahaha, yes lets sell rubber knives where the blade slides back into the handle...........

    That whole article is clown shoes.

    :-D:-D

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    surely its about how these youngsters are being brought up, not the weapons used

    sassie;2540203

    surely its about how these youngsters are being brought up, not the … surely its about how these youngsters are being brought up, not the weapons used



    Couldn't agree more Sassie!!

    Slicing wounds are less fatal than stabbing wounds.

    There is no good answer you can give as I believe its too late. The government has side brushed this matter since the early 90's.

    Original Poster

    shibi s joke has been taken off as well as the other thread

    so if i put statistics of knife crime up - which are verified by government - and they upset someone - this thread could be taken off........................................pointless!!

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    deathtrap3000;2540209

    Slicing wounds are less fatal than stabbing wounds. There is no good … Slicing wounds are less fatal than stabbing wounds. There is no good answer you can give as I believe its too late. The government has side brushed this matter since the early 90's.



    Sorry what do you mean by that:?

    Bring back hanging, if your found with a knife then its off to the gallows. Why has England got so bad, everyone though Norn Iron was a pit but it isn't as bad as some English estates. No offence.

    sassie;2540221

    Sorry what do you mean by that:?



    Well the problem has been getting worse since then and they havent done anything about it.

    deathtrap3000;2540340

    Well the problem has been getting worse since then and they havent done … Well the problem has been getting worse since then and they havent done anything about it.



    Exactly, it's not as if 'knife culture' is a new phenomenon.

    there is only one answer
    if you do the crime you do the time

    proper prisons that are hard : no tvs, computers, playstations, 3 course meals etc
    you go in and apart from exercise and training to become a better citizen (which would include nvqs etc) you are locked up

    until the lefties realise that theyre soft laws,prisons do not work this country will continue in its decline

    Banned

    Im not sure why you think the goverment can do anything about it, other than punish the crimes, the problem is we need to prevent it not just punish it

    just like other banned items/substances, if they are wanted they will be sourced, so this will make no difference, im not sure what will stop it, but educating kids about it all will help? or would it, who knows :-(

    I see you've played knifey spooney before....

    The only solution or reduction to this, is a ACTUAL highly present and visible Police Force, tackling street crime not spending an abhorrent amount of time targeting motorists.

    sassie;2540378

    Im not sure why you think the goverment can do anything about it, other … Im not sure why you think the goverment can do anything about it, other than punish the crimes, the problem is we need to prevent it not just punish it



    I don't know Sass, the government HAS a lot to answer for. The 'banning' of samurai swords for a start. They made it illegal to sell BLUNT ornamental weapons but it's still perfectly legal to sell a hand forged razor sharp one. Typical street price c. £60......

    Bunch of .... idiots.

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    Shengis;2540449

    I don't know Sass, the government HAS a lot to answer for. The 'banning' … I don't know Sass, the government HAS a lot to answer for. The 'banning' of samurai swords for a start. They made it illegal to sell BLUNT ornamental weapons but it's still perfectly legal to sell a hand forged razor sharp one. Typical street price c. £60......Bunch of .... idiots.



    I think the goverment is alot more responsible than just that, but wont go into it here as i know it will turn into a sassie bashng

    sassie;2540461

    I think the goverment is alot more responsible than just that, but wont … I think the goverment is alot more responsible than just that, but wont go into it here as i know it will turn into a sassie bashng



    Yeah i'm not getting into it either. Just pointing out one glaring contradiction to how they make us all 'safe' by passing brilliant laws:)

    I was thinking about this sort of thing the other day, and I think I've come up with a reasonable solution - unmarked police vans with GIANT SUPERSIZE electromagnets built in. Wait for the charge cycle to complete, hit the large red button, and then BAM - every metallic object, knives included, within a 100m radius of the van is instantly ripped from pockets and slammed against the sides of the fan, at which point the magnet is switched off, and little nets fire out from uder the fan to safely catch anything. It'd cure knife crime, becuase everyone would be too scared of having their balls cut off by their own knife being pulled through the air to carry one.

    dxx;2540511

    I was thinking about this sort of thing the other day, and I think I've … I was thinking about this sort of thing the other day, and I think I've come up with a reasonable solution - unmarked police vans with GIANT SUPERSIZE electromagnets built in. Wait for the charge cycle to complete, hit the large red button, and then BAM - every metallic object, knives included, within a 100m radius of the van is instantly ripped from pockets and slammed against the sides of the fan, at which point the magnet is switched off, and little nets fire out from uder the fan to safely catch anything. It'd cure knife crime, becuase everyone would be too scared of having their balls cut off by their own knife being pulled through the air to carry one.



    http://www.entrecomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/magneto1.jpg

    dxx;2540511

    I was thinking about this sort of thing the other day, and I think I've … I was thinking about this sort of thing the other day, and I think I've come up with a reasonable solution - unmarked police vans with GIANT SUPERSIZE electromagnets built in. Wait for the charge cycle to complete, hit the large red button, and then BAM - every metallic object, knives included, within a 100m radius of the van is instantly ripped from pockets and slammed against the sides of the fan, at which point the magnet is switched off, and little nets fire out from uder the fan to safely catch anything. It'd cure knife crime, becuase everyone would be too scared of having their balls cut off by their own knife being pulled through the air to carry one.




    Then the police would be the killers, as passerbys get carved up by flying keys and loose change. Plus the People in the van would have to have good life insurance.

    leefal;2540542



    Exactly. How many times did Wolverine, a man so into knife culture that he went out one night, drank his own weight in White Lightning, and ended up having knives surgically installed built into his fist, manage to stab Magneto?

    dxx;2540616

    Exactly. How many times did Wolverine, a man so into knife culture that … Exactly. How many times did Wolverine, a man so into knife culture that he went out one night, drank his own weight in White Lightning, and ended up having knives surgically installed built into his fist, manage to stab Magneto?




    They were sporks, most cannot stop a spork. So it is written; and the spork slapped manknind about their guns, tv, and many other weapons of war as none could smite the spork. Hallowed are the Spork.

    The-Dude;2540650

    They were sporks, most cannot stop a spork. So it is written; and the … They were sporks, most cannot stop a spork. So it is written; and the spork slapped manknind about their guns, tv, and many other weapons of war could not smite the spork. Hallowed are the Spork.



    hahahahaha, aww jesus! Me sides are hurtin!
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