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    To get a MAC or not?

    Hey guys. Just looking for a little advice please.

    I'm contemplating getting a Mac. currently using a windows 7 machine with 8GB ram and an I5 processor. Windows just gets slower and slowernit seems. its not even 2 years old.

    I'm looking for something that's smooth browsing, writing up documents, going on YouTube and downloading torrents and wathing videos. Possibly some football manager too.

    Would a Mac be good for me? I'm Android when it comes to phones but appreciate how well built and run I phones are.

    Would A Mac from 2011-12 still be good? I hear they run like a dream.

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    Get Windows 8.

    Or you could install the Mac OS on your PC.

    For there prices you must be mad even contemplating it

    it does take a bit of getting used to going from windows to Mac but its worth it if you have the spare money, you can be more creative on a Mac and os feels better than wins 7/8.

    How can i5 and 8GB RAM be slow? One of my laptops has i3 and 3GB RAM on Windows 8 32-bit and runs really fast. Do a fresh install of Windows 8 and save yourself some money by not buying another machine.

    Your pc isn't that old, decent cpu and a decent amount of RAM, have you considered replacing the HDD with a SSD or hybrid drive? This will speed up you system no end and probably be a lot cheaper than buying a Mac.

    Re how smooth macs are, I have a MacBook pro, same ram as yours, and yes it runs like a dream, and you can easily dual boot with windows. It's a bit of a pain dual booting a pc to OS X.

    Edited by: "paul1005" 2nd Dec 2014

    I have a 2012 Macbook air and it still runs like it did when it was new. I use mine for the same purposes that you do and am in absolutely no rush to update it. My battery still lasts more than a day of work which is great!

    However, I didn't enjoy using pages/keynote so bought Microsoft Office for Mac, which strangely runs better on the Mac than it ever did on my Windows 7 PC.

    For me personally it has been worth every penny.

    windows 7 is dog slow old tech. windows 8.1 loads faster and is mostly backwards compatible to windows xp. mac os is nice but they drop support quicker than you can upgrade. was very surprised they dropped support for 32bit cpus

    I have a mac that is about four years old and it still runs brilliantly. I purchased a refurbed one from their site so got it at a good price. Worth every penny

    Original Poster

    Thanks guy. I appreciate the help and advice. I may look for a cheap Mac a few years old to get used to one. My computer shouldn't be running slow, I will try and find a cheap Windows 8 license.

    I have probably very close to your specs rig. My windows 8 loads in about 10-15 seconds. Don't waste your money. Buy SSD. Tomorrow i will make a small video showing that.

    Whereas I have a 4 year old Macbook which runs so slow I'm thinking of throwing out of the window.

    Currently using a windows 7 machine with 8GB ram and an I5 processor. … Currently using a windows 7 machine with 8GB ram and an I5 processor. Windows just gets slower and slowernit seems. its not even 2 years old.



    Simple general maintenance could speed up your machine but without the exact specifications of your computer it would be ill advised to provide guidance. If you post all your details on the Misc. section there will be plenty of responses on how to improve your system with basic practical advice, and whether it's advisable to upgrade the components. Anyhow an Intel I5 with 8gb should easily deal with daily tasks such as surfing the net, playing computer games at low settings (of course it depends on the game, resolution, and hardware).

    Housekeeping of a system can usually prolong the length a computer life. i.e. cleaning, defragmenting the hard drive (never an SSD), clearing your browsing history, re-installing the Operating System (if you have the discs or a back-up), adjusting the firewall and anti-virus settings, removing unwanted programs, cleaning the case, fans etc. This is all before attempting or paying for an upgrade.
    Edited by: "nemesiz" 3rd Dec 2014

    Pick up an older MacBook and try it out, if you find you don't like OSX you can usually sell the MacBook on and get your money back.

    Download and install ElementaryOS, Very mac like and free and being Linux will run without slowing down.

    Crazygooner1

    Thanks guy. I appreciate the help and advice. I may look for a cheap Mac … Thanks guy. I appreciate the help and advice. I may look for a cheap Mac a few years old to get used to one. My computer shouldn't be running slow, I will try and find a cheap Windows 8 license.



    I use a quad AMD with 8GB of RAM and Win 7 runs like a dream, I have had it installed since release. I would do a virus check, defrag your disk and do a general tidy of your OS. Your laptop should have no issues with Win 7, Im a big fan of Win7.

    roof30

    Whereas I have a 4 year old Macbook which runs so slow I'm thinking of … Whereas I have a 4 year old Macbook which runs so slow I'm thinking of throwing out of the window.



    Should I PM you my adress and send you the money to cover the postage? I will happily take it off your hands and you wont have it lying out in your garden for the winter?
    Edited by: "Donkii" 3rd Dec 2014

    my 2012 laptop and desktop feel like new. i got very decent specs and so far they haven't missed a beat. think they've upgraded OS twice and never struggled at all. i'm mindful of the multiple issues my last windows laptop had when it reached its third birthday
    buying second hand is inherently risky though....the savings are good but unless you buy from a trusted reseller with strong warranty/refund policies, you may risk buying one with issues not immediately evident

    I have a Dell Ultrabook (very low-end Ultrabook, only cost around £360) which has a normal HDD but an mSata "SSD" for caching. It is really quick. Boots from cold in about ten seconds and works like a dream. Nowadays W8.1 boots directly into Windows if you want it to rather than the Metro interface (I prefer Metro) and it runs just great. I also put W8.1 on an old Dell XPS One all-in-one desktop which had been running crap on Vista and it has given it a completely new lease of life.

    Bearing in mind that Windows 10 will be out fairly soon, it would be a lot cheaper to do that rather than go for Apple.

    Slow Windows machine? Buy an SSD.
    More creative on Mac, huh?

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    Macbook all the way.

    One charge will last all day, loads in 20 seconds. Don't need AV.


    The windows guys will think you are posh and hate you.

    toshapetriji

    Macbook all the way.One charge will last all day, loads in 20 seconds. … Macbook all the way.One charge will last all day, loads in 20 seconds. Don't need AV.The windows guys will think you are posh and hate you.


    Still need AV on a Mac unfortunately.

    nemesiz

    Simple general maintenance could speed up your machine but without the … Simple general maintenance could speed up your machine but without the exact specifications of your computer it would be ill advised to provide guidance. If you post all your details on the Misc. section there will be plenty of responses on how to improve your system with basic practical advice, and whether it's advisable to upgrade the components. Anyhow an Intel I5 with 8gb should easily deal with daily tasks such as surfing the net, playing computer games at low settings (of course it depends on the game, resolution, and hardware).Housekeeping of a system can usually prolong the length a computer life. i.e. cleaning, defragmenting the hard drive (never an SSD), clearing your browsing history, re-installing the Operating System (if you have the discs or a back-up), adjusting the firewall and anti-virus settings, removing unwanted programs, cleaning the case, fans etc. This is all before attempting or paying for an upgrade.


    Under 7 Trim runs automatically but under Windows 8.1 you have Optimise and Defragment Drive. You can Optimise a SSD to run it's trim function. It's not the same as defragging, it does garbage collection on your SSD and keeps it quick. No idea why it a scheduled task instead of just plain automatic but it's worth checking to see when it was last done under Win 8.1

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    kester76

    Still need AV on a Mac unfortunately.



    I don't use av.

    pcadvisor.co.uk/fea…ed/

    toshapetriji

    I don't use … I don't use av.http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/features/security/3418367/do-apple-macs-need-antivirus-os-x-security-explained/



    Neither do I, on a Windows machine.

    toshapetriji

    Macbook all the way.One charge will last all day, loads in 20 seconds. … Macbook all the way.One charge will last all day, loads in 20 seconds. Don't need AV.The windows guys will think you are posh and hate you.



    I don't think anyone with a Mac is posh, not at all, and I prefer Windows because I think Apple products are one of the biggest rip off products that exist. Their prices are ridiculous for what you get. They're sort of the David Cameron of computers.

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    rikkif1990

    I don't think anyone with a Mac is posh, not at all, and I prefer Windows … I don't think anyone with a Mac is posh, not at all, and I prefer Windows because I think Apple products are one of the biggest rip off products that exist. Their prices are ridiculous for what you get. They're sort of the David Cameron of computers.



    I got the hate bit right though.

    Not.

    The solution to slowdown is not Mac, it's reinstall Windows to a brand spanking new SSD.

    (google winsxs and DISBELIEVE all articles that say you can make it smaller)

    I have nothing against Macs. I like their users particularly. Just better to properly own your Windows.

    toshapetriji

    I don't use … I don't use av.http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/features/security/3418367/do-apple-macs-need-antivirus-os-x-security-explained/


    Quote " PowerBook G4 has been connected to the internet, without protection, for a decade. It hasn't yet fallen prey to malware." PowerPC CPU but not x86 could be why I never got a virus online using my Amiga 1200 Basically the article says that if your computer is crippled and only runs Apple approved software then you might not get a Virus/Trojan/Tinfoil Helmet Nutjob turning up at your door. Same if you run about with blindly on a seldom used road you might never get run over.

    "currently using a windows 7 machine with 8GB ram and an I5 processor. Windows just gets slower and slowernit seems"

    I don't see how. I have a similar setup with an i5 3570K and its running super fast, especially with an SSD. Maybe you need a SSD or to have a clean up.

    If you've never used Mac before then it will take time to get use too.I would stick with what you have. I have just received a 2011 Mac Mini and it certainly isn't faster than my desktop!

    There are two desktops in this house. Both from 2008, one running Mac OS, the other running Vista. Both are used everyday.

    The windows machine has aged far better.

    Granted, it hasn't gone through major system updates like the Mac has been. But then it doesn't need to be, while Apple dropped support years ago for the original version it shipped with and made those updates mandatory, Vista is still happily plugging along with only one service pack install to it's name (It was installed from an SP1 disk).

    Also granted, the Windows machine isn't perfect. It's got those strange hesitations when asked to do trivial tasks with the hard disk that Vista was disliked for but it doesn't seem to have noticeably deteriorated the way the Mac OS machine has and previous versions of Windows did.

    The Mac OS machine is likely to get a boot 'n' nuke within the next year but I wouldn't be surprised if the Vista machine went on running right up until the 11th of April 2017 when support ends on it's first install - something that would have been unimaginable with 2000/XP.

    Obviously it's not very accurate to draw conclusions from two machines but it wouldn't surprise me if Microsoft generally had the upper hand these days.

    Original Poster

    Thanks guys I appreciate all of your help. I should of actually mentioned my computer is a laptop from Novatech so don't think I can actually install an SSD to it?Guess I can do that on the desktop. Going to give windows 8.1 a bash, fingers crossed!

    Crazygooner1

    Thanks guys I appreciate all of your help. I should of actually mentioned … Thanks guys I appreciate all of your help. I should of actually mentioned my computer is a laptop from Novatech so don't think I can actually install an SSD to it?Guess I can do that on the desktop. Going to give windows 8.1 a bash, fingers crossed!



    Access the HDD and replace it with an SSD.

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    thearbiter65

    I have a 2012 Macbook air and it still runs like it did when it was new. … I have a 2012 Macbook air and it still runs like it did when it was new. I use mine for the same purposes that you do and am in absolutely no rush to update it. My battery still lasts more than a day of work which is great!However, I didn't enjoy using pages/keynote so bought Microsoft Office for Mac, which strangely runs better on the Mac than it ever did on my Windows 7 PC. For me personally it has been worth every penny.


    +1

    My view on macs + and -

    Positives:
    - The operating system is a lot nicer (once you get used to it). It feels more compact. Less flaws.
    - Less likely to get a virus. Macs rarely get viruses. I don't even have anti virus on mine. Never had any issues in 3 years.
    - You get more better video editing software such as FCP.
    - Magic mouse is wonderful to use. Trackpad is nice too but I prefer the magic mouse.
    - You can still run PC apps and also Windows can be run on a virtual machine. So you get OS X and Windows 8
    - You can connect your iPhone, iPad and sync everything nicely on a MAC. You can even message people or even call people on your MAC. You can facetime as well. They all have in built webcams.
    - Build Quality is good. They last. Mine is about 4 years old now and still runs like it's new.
    - They hold their value. I could still sell this MAC and only lose like £100 from what I got it for (second hand £600)

    Negative:
    - Can't game as much on a MAC than you can on a PC. If this is not important then you needn't worry.
    - Not all PC applications are available on the MAC. Check what software you use. There may be an alternative MAC version. One thing I miss on the PC is ConvertX2DVD. Have not found anything close on a MAC for this.
    - They are expensive to buy. But again, they hold their value.
    - It takes a little time to get used to the new Operating system. You can watch some youtube videos showing you the basics.

    Overall:
    I used to be all PC. I still go back to it now and then but it's gathering dust. I personally prefer the MAC.

    At the end of the day. It's your choice.

    Good Luck.

    toshapetriji

    I got the hate bit right though.

    No, I don't hate anyone with a Mac, that would be a bit daft, I just aren't a fan of them. I couldn't care less what people buy it's personal preference, I just wanted to say what I thought.

    Just replace your HDD with SSD, the biggest you can afford. You'll never look back even if you just cloned your current HDD to it. You could then format your HDD and put in a casing for external storage. SSD will transform the feel of your laptop.

    Original Poster

    Thanks guys. Installed Windows 8.1 and I must say it's like a different machine. I may still look into a Mac in the future.

    How do I go about replacing a laptops HDD with an SSD? It doesn't seem easy.

    Crazygooner1

    How do I go about replacing a laptops HDD with an SSD? It doesn't seem … How do I go about replacing a laptops HDD with an SSD? It doesn't seem easy.



    Mostly it's just taking the laptop apart to get to the bay (if you don't have a business machine with interchangeable bays). Once it's exposed the hard drive just unplugs and the SSD plugs in.
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