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    Today is primary and junior school allocation day (National offer day) - did your child get their 1st choice? If not, will you appeal?

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    Today is the day that half a million parents across the country find out if their child got into the primary or junior school of their choice. According to experts, lots of families will be left disappointed because their child did not get into their first or even second choice of school. Just because they went to nursery at that school does not mean that they are guaranteed a place in the primary section and there are reports of siblings attending schools miles apart and parents having to tackle lengthy school runs to get both children to school on time!

    The Good Schools Guide reports that the chances of successfully winning an appeal against the decision are very slim and reasons such as poor Ofsted ratings, distance from home and siblings at the school are not considered grounds for appeal.

    Their advice if you are not happy with the alloction is to firstly accept the place - if not you could end up with no place at all for your child come September. Secondly, get on all the other waiting lists for the schools that you want asap - some may drop out as they have moved or get accepted into another school and the sooner you do it, the higher the chance as they are often based on a first come first served basis although this does differ from school to school and area you are in - check your local authorities policy on this.

    If you are considering putting in an appeal, you need to make sure you have the right grounds to appeal on. You need to prove that there was a mistake in the admissions process or that the admissions policy is unlawful or that no reasonable person would have come to that decission and the reasonable term in the law term reasonable not just what we as parents would consider reasonable.

    You might be really upset that your child has not got a place at the school that you wanted but you need to try and hide this from your child, they will pick up on it and it will make the thought of school in September even harder. If you don't know many people at the new allocated school, maybe check out if they have a Facebook page and drop them a message and see if they can get some parents with children in your child's year to meet at the park or something so you and your child know a few people which should ease the process a little bit for you both.

    Good luck and let us know your thoughts?

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    26 Comments

    I agree with most of that but in my area it is not a case of first come first served on a waiting list. you have a deadline to apply to be on the waiting list for your chosen school and then they sort you by order of priority. having a sibling at the school gives you higher priority and is grounds for appeal as I've been through the process before myself. whether this differs across the country I couldn't say, so the above is just generalising. some of that info would worry me if I was in that position as it is wrong for my area and if I didn't know, it would just cause undue stress in an already stressful situation

    I didn't get any of my choices for my son,which I find really disappointing.
    My neighbours children go to one of choices so find it unfair.

    I don't have any kids of school age, but if you had 3 kids all at different schools, how would you get them all to school, and yourself to work, all at the same time? Surely, it's sensible to have them at the same school.

    We stayed up last night and got the email just after midnight. Our twins got their first choice school, our two neighbors got the same too. Relief and so thankful but also thinking about those who didn't get what they wanted.

    Iron_Man

    I don't have any kids of school age, but if you had 3 kids all at … I don't have any kids of school age, but if you had 3 kids all at different schools, how would you get them all to school, and yourself to work, all at the same time? Surely, it's sensible to have them at the same school.



    I've actually seen this happen, a friend had 2 kids, a year apart, one got into school A, second one didn't a year later, got into school B, which was a 20 minute walk from school A. Both schools started at 8.55. So all she could do was alternate who she took to school on time, got threatened with fines etc for constant lates. Ridiculous system and the education authority wouldn't budge.

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    Iron_Man

    I don't have any kids of school age, but if you had 3 kids all at … I don't have any kids of school age, but if you had 3 kids all at different schools, how would you get them all to school, and yourself to work, all at the same time? Surely, it's sensible to have them at the same school.


    Happens quite often, someone at my little boys school has a little one in nursery at a school ten minutes away so they have to put the older one in breakfast club at 8.15 to get the other one to nursery on time. Luckily they are only half day nursery so it doesn't interfere with pickup in the afternoon but come September when they are both full time, one will have to go to after school club for half an hour - madness!

    emribena

    Happens quite often, someone at my little boys school has a little one in … Happens quite often, someone at my little boys school has a little one in nursery at a school ten minutes away so they have to put the older one in breakfast club at 8.15 to get the other one to nursery on time. Luckily they are only half day nursery so it doesn't interfere with pickup in the afternoon but come September when they are both full time, one will have to go to after school club for half an hour - madness!


    Why would you have to get your sprog to nursery on time? I drop mine offspring late 4 out of 5 days a week. No one cares.

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    666FU

    Why would you have to get your sprog to nursery on time? I drop mine … Why would you have to get your sprog to nursery on time? I drop mine offspring late 4 out of 5 days a week. No one cares.


    Strictly 9 until 11.30 or 12.30 - 3 here - gets the children in a routine ready for school in September and doesn't disrupt the rest of the class

    Iron_Man

    I don't have any kids of school age, but if you had 3 kids all at … I don't have any kids of school age, but if you had 3 kids all at different schools, how would you get them all to school, and yourself to work, all at the same time? Surely, it's sensible to have them at the same school.



    Even worse when they are under different LEAs and have different holidays as well oO

    666FU

    Why would you have to get your sprog to nursery on time? I drop mine … Why would you have to get your sprog to nursery on time? I drop mine offspring late 4 out of 5 days a week. No one cares.


    Are you sure no one cares? I only ask because having parents drop off late is a real problem for pre schools that have specific hours eg 8;30 - 12;30 , although I know some nurseries are more flexible. It drives staff mad at our local pre school when parents don't get their children in on time. The pre school has to be locked and secured once everyone is in, and the children have a set routine , eg register first . Every time a child arrives late , a member of staff has to leave the group , unlock , register the late child , alter the number of children in attendance , follow the parent to the main gates and lock up again and settle the late child in. Imagine 4 or 5 sets of parents doing this at different times each morning and it soon wears a bit thin.

    Two people on my facebook had applied to the Local Catholic primary as the main fave choice, both live within a few mins walk.

    One of them is raging about unfair it is as her child hasn't got place, and is demanding to know why the other ones kid got a place. So far he has responded with a vague 'I dunno its a lottery', when he knows damn well what he did to secure a place. 3 years attendance at church and not forgetting the vital (logged) donations.

    God....I hate the middle class

    Agree with the earlier poster about the order of priority on a waiting list. Obviously the sooner you can get on the waiting list the better in case places do become available BUT people joining the list later can go higher up the list if they are classed as a higher priority than those already on there.

    The waiting list will be prioritised in exactly the same order that the school places are initially allocated.

    Iron_Man

    I don't have any kids of school age, but if you had 3 kids all at … I don't have any kids of school age, but if you had 3 kids all at different schools, how would you get them all to school, and yourself to work, all at the same time? Surely, it's sensible to have them at the same school.



    Iron_Man

    I don't have any kids of school age, but if you had 3 kids all at … I don't have any kids of school age, but if you had 3 kids all at different schools, how would you get them all to school, and yourself to work, all at the same time? Surely, it's sensible to have them at the same school.


    What you are expected to do is get up at 5 am, take one to breakfast club or pre care and pay them. Take the next to the same, open your wallet again. The next can get in on time if traffic is perfect (as it always is at that time) Then get yourself off to the non existent job that allows you to start at 10am and finish at half 2 whilst paying you well. Stress out hoping to get to child one on time (traffic always excellent at that time) open your wallet again for child twos after school care, and once more for child 3. Get home and read 3 sets of money requests for useless projects, School trips and donations from all 3 schools. Watch the news telling you that parents will be asked for more money for schools and that any financial help should be binned because of that amazing job you have. Go to bed, not forgetting to set the alarm for 5 am to start the next glorious day.

    Note that school selection criteria change from year to year, so grounds for a successful appeal in previous years may no longer be relevant.

    Absolutely gutted. My local school is a 2 minute walk away which both nephews and my niece go to. Put it as first choice, But my daughter didn't get in..or into 2nd choice. Got a school I didn't even choose that's 10 minute drive away. After working a nightshift and being awake for over 24 hours it's not going to be safe to drive her there. Would take an hour to walk with her little legs. I can't afford the petrol to do school runs everyday. Seems the local school have taken siblings only as no one else seems to have got in with only one child. Waiting list and appealing it is

    My son didn't get into the school his sister goes too and he goes to the nursery school there. I am in shock. The school he got given is in a complete opposite end to my daughters school.

    dannie4

    My son didn't get into the school his sister goes too and he goes to the … My son didn't get into the school his sister goes too and he goes to the nursery school there. I am in shock. The school he got given is in a complete opposite end to my daughters school.



    ​we had that situation I refused the given space at the other school as in a way you are conceding that you can get your children into 2 different schools at the same time. my friend did the same 2 years ago. sat her daughter at home for 2 months but finally got the school in which 2 of her sons were attending. I luckily got my sons place at appeal as he was number 1 in the queue. sometimes you have to take the risk of not sending them. obviously this is totally up to each parent but no parent should be forced to send 2 young children to different schools which only one has a chance to get to on time without being put under financial pressure.

    It really is rediculous. It must be a nightmare. And, that a costly one too.

    adhkarzf

    ​we had that situation I refused the given space at the other school as i … ​we had that situation I refused the given space at the other school as in a way you are conceding that you can get your children into 2 different schools at the same time. my friend did the same 2 years ago. sat her daughter at home for 2 months but finally got the school in which 2 of her sons were attending. I luckily got my sons place at appeal as he was number 1 in the queue. sometimes you have to take the risk of not sending them. obviously this is totally up to each parent but no parent should be forced to send 2 young children to different schools which only one has a chance to get to on time without being put under financial pressure.



    It really is a nightmare.

    Well when mine went to school about two years ago i think it was now, it was my fourth choice, i think i had to list 6 or 8 in order of most wanted, i didn't bother contesting it because at least its within walking distance.

    There's been several people at his school with bothers and sisters elsewhere, one went last year, her older brother was in another school (the one i put as my second choice) so it took them about one and a half years of contesting it to get them both in the same school.

    Iron_Man

    I don't have any kids of school age, but if you had 3 kids all at … I don't have any kids of school age, but if you had 3 kids all at different schools, how would you get them all to school, and yourself to work, all at the same time? Surely, it's sensible to have them at the same school.

    Iron_Man

    I don't have any kids of school age, but if you had 3 kids all at … I don't have any kids of school age, but if you had 3 kids all at different schools, how would you get them all to school, and yourself to work, all at the same time? Surely, it's sensible to have them at the same school.



    Lmao i only got one kid, no one thinks he should be spending any more time at the school then he absolutely has to (this is the deputy head, the school counselor and the council services) because of his seperation anxiety, i sign on the dole and am down as looking for work Monday to Friday 10 until 2pm luckily i have a nice JSA advisor she's seen it all before a million times and knows all the "part time" and "flexible" work just means they want people on call 24\7.

    Not that it matters anyway as most basic work wants you there before the breakfast clubs start (mines 7.45) and long after the after school clubs finish (6pm). But then of course the school clubs are a lottery too anyway none of them last more then one hour so you'd have to try and get a place on several clubs a day for the full five days a week just to do what i think the school thinks people do a 9 to 5 with a 1, hour commute.

    Stuck in the 1950s they are.

    Error440

    Lmao i only got one kid, no one thinks he should be spending any more … Lmao i only got one kid, no one thinks he should be spending any more time at the school then he absolutely has to (this is the deputy head, the school counselor and the council services) because of his seperation anxiety, i sign on the dole and am down as looking for work Monday to Friday 10 until 2pm luckily i have a nice JSA advisor she's seen it all before a million times and knows all the "part time" and "flexible" work just means they want people on call 24\7.Not that it matters anyway as most basic work wants you there before the breakfast clubs start (mines 7.45) and long after the after school clubs finish (6pm). But then of course the school clubs are a lottery too anyway none of them last more then one hour so you'd have to try and get a place on several clubs a day for the full five days a week just to do what i think the school thinks people do a 9 to 5 with a 1, hour commute.Stuck in the 1950s they are.


    That's not necessarily true, surely shops operate fixed hours? Somewhere like a supermarket? With a 4 hour working shift you'd get minimal break time which works in their favour.

    Also all the schools in my area have breakfast clubs from 7.30am and after school clubs until around 6pm, pushing 6.30pm in a few. #justsaying

    Edited by: "Nshizzle" 21st Apr

    Nshizzle

    That's not necessarily true, surely shops operate fixed hours? Somewhere … That's not necessarily true, surely shops operate fixed hours? Somewhere like a supermarket? With a 4 hour working shift you'd get minimal break time which works in their favour. Also all the schools in my area have breakfast clubs from 7.30am and after school clubs until around 6pm, pushing 6.30pm in a few. #justsaying



    Alright I'll give you some examples, greggs the baker regardless of hours stated you must be able to start as early as 6am, wilko you must be able to work weekends, Vue you must be able to work as late as 3am, Flying Tiger must be available for weekends.

    Error440

    Alright I'll give you some examples, greggs the baker regardless of hours … Alright I'll give you some examples, greggs the baker regardless of hours stated you must be able to start as early as 6am, wilko you must be able to work weekends, Vue you must be able to work as late as 3am, Flying Tiger must be available for weekends.



    That sucks. Sorry, I didn't mean to sound stuck up I was genuinely trying to be helpful! Have you tried one of the larger supermarkets? There is a website called ten2two which specialises in helping parents find jobs - give them a go, some are professional jobs in offices but they do also do retail and other jobs too. Good luck, I hope you find something you enjoy and are happy in.

    Nshizzle

    That sucks. Sorry, I didn't mean to sound stuck up I was genuinely trying … That sucks. Sorry, I didn't mean to sound stuck up I was genuinely trying to be helpful! Have you tried one of the larger supermarkets? There is a website called ten2two which specialises in helping parents find jobs - give them a go, some are professional jobs in offices but they do also do retail and other jobs too. Good luck, I hope you find something you enjoy and are happy in.



    I've applied for asda several times, tesco jobs i see always want people for upto 10pm, womenlikeus are another p\t website
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