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    Top tips for CV's.................

    Any managers out there or recruitment consultants that have some top tips for CV's?
    From what always puts you off at first sight or what always grabs your attention?
    Any comments would be appreicated and im sure will come in use for lots of people on here

    44 Comments

    Dont write sentences. Use bullet points keep it to 2 pages. If you have average grades dont put them on just put what you have done... Keep your profile short and simple

    Never write 'likes to socialise' in your hobbies/interests section - we all know that it means you like to drink.

    om4r;4989932

    Dont write sentences. Use bullet points keep it to 2 pages. If you have … Dont write sentences. Use bullet points keep it to 2 pages. If you have average grades dont put them on just put what you have done... Keep your profile short and simple



    2 Pages? Even I think thats too much. 1 Page will do imo filled the whole thing up My Connections Advisor helped me put my CV together but as above bullet pointed statements about yourself is always a + a sentece or two about yourself is good (personal) I just scored an interview for Thursday Good luck!

    Bad spelling puts me off and is the first thing that grabs my attention. Loads of good advice on the internet, pick your own style, don't lie and be confident that you can answer questions on it when sitting in front of the interviewer.

    Oh, and good luck

    Banned

    spell check, dont tell porkies

    Original Poster

    Spell check would be an obvious one for me but my partner has brought some CV's in the past that are just halarious! going for a new job at my companies competitor with a hefty salary increase so want to make myself sound wonderful! (no porkies, promise!!)

    dont make it long winded-the person reading it will get bored and lose interest-do NOT under any circumstances use the expression "works as well on own initiative or as part of a team"-this is an age old chestnut and a sure sign you have trawled books or forums for things to say rather than just being natural. people who read lots of cvs as a matter of course are utterly sick of cliches and "clever" phrases that idiot consultants charge a fortune to advise on.

    I know that many businesses now will simply throw a cv longer than one page in the bin without even reading it.

    keep it short and to the point-all they need to know is are you qualified and capable of doing the job-nobody cares if you like camping at weekends or play squash in your spare time-its all nonsense.

    Marky264;4989999

    2 Pages? Even I think thats too much. 1 Page will do imo filled the whole … 2 Pages? Even I think thats too much. 1 Page will do imo filled the whole thing up My Connections Advisor helped me put my CV together but as above bullet pointed statements about yourself is always a + a sentece or two about yourself is good (personal) I just scored an interview for Thursday Good luck!



    +1

    I only don't agree with that personal bit. IMO not worth mentioning. It's good if you have nothing else to say, but I think it's a bit 'old fashion' (MO), plus they will get to know you in the actual interview much more then from a few lines in CV

    Also it depends what type of position you're applying for. You should tweak your CV according to it.

    Good luck :thumbsup:

    CVs from people who can't spell and are too stupid to use spell checkers go straight into the shredder. On the rare occasion that we advertise jobs we do get a lot of applications and that's a quick and easy idiot filter.

    1-2 pages is fine, depending on experience. If you don't have any real experience just keep it to 1 page.

    I tend not to list references these days. I just write "References will be furnished upon request." I have been to quite a lot of interviews over the years and references have only ever been requested once. Obviously that's going to be industry specific though. I can't imagine a government job letting you get away with that!

    Don't put in any obvious lies. I had a guy apply for a FORTRAN programming post once and he claimed 5 years of FORTRAN programming experience. When he turned up I showed him some simple code. He didn't have a clue. He didn't even know what a DATA statement was. He thought he could "pick it up as he went along".

    barky;4990094

    people who read lots of cvs as a matter of course are utterly sick of … people who read lots of cvs as a matter of course are utterly sick of cliches and "clever" phrases that idiot consultants charge a fortune to advise on.



    :thumbsup: Agree 100%

    I've had a CV with cover letter written by the applicants mother...

    Dear Sir,

    Jimmy is a very polite and .....etc etc

    barky;4990094

    I know that many businesses now will simply throw a cv longer than one … I know that many businesses now will simply throw a cv longer than one page in the bin without even reading it.



    Obviously, the length of the CV is dependent on the job itself.

    My brother went for a job at a product design firm and sent an interactive CD with his work on, my CV is 3 pages long - but academic CVs have to list every publication, conference, class taught etc, whereas my Dad's CV is two pages as he had to demonstrate a working knowledge of machine operations for a job at JCB.

    Just don't make it sprawl!

    I disagree with the one page rule.

    If you have lots of relevant experience you want to list it to make yourself stand out from the rest.

    Mine is currently five pages!!!!!

    chester123;4990191

    I disagree with the one page rule.If you have lots of relevant experience … I disagree with the one page rule.If you have lots of relevant experience you want to list it to make yourself stand out from the rest.Mine is currently five pages!!!!!



    I think soon you could publish it as a book :-D

    Xpenny;4990259

    I think soon you could publish it as a book :-D



    I cut it down by two pages before I got my current job.

    chester123;4990191

    Mine is currently five pages!!!!!



    Check out this 19 page leviathan from a guy I know. And it's all bullet points with no description!

    ]http//da…pdf

    chester123;4990191

    I disagree with the one page rule.If you have lots of relevant experience … I disagree with the one page rule.If you have lots of relevant experience you want to list it to make yourself stand out from the rest.Mine is currently five pages!!!!!



    I would honestly bin that... anything over 2 is too much too soon, an potential employer doesn't want your life story at this stage just some relevant experience.

    I love people who at interview when asked 'what makes a good.winning team' trot out the old... 'everybody working together and getting on...' :-D

    try and tailor your CV to the type of Job your applying for and cut out any cack that is irrelevant to the position.

    as an example, if your applying for a programming position it is of little interest to me that you spent 8 months working a till in tesco or got a D in geography.

    personally I like to see a single page CV with a cover letter explaining why you want the job and why you feel you would be suited too it.

    donttouchthehair;4990312

    Check out this 19 page leviathan from a guy I know. And it's all bullet … Check out this 19 page leviathan from a guy I know. And it's all bullet points with no description! ]http://davidlavery.net/CV/Lavery_Curriculum_Vitae.pdf



    That's a bit different to the average though as most of it is references to written works.

    Flodd;4990315

    I would honestly bin that... anything over 2 is too much too soon, an … I would honestly bin that... anything over 2 is too much too soon, an potential employer doesn't want your life story at this stage just some relevant experience.I love people who at interview when asked 'what makes a good.winning team' trot out the old... 'everybody working together and getting on...' :-D



    So you would rather waste your time bringing someone in and interviewing them instead of reading about it before?

    You sound like a great boss!!

    Spod;4990383

    That's a bit different to the average though as most of it is references … That's a bit different to the average though as most of it is references to written works.



    Didn't mean it as an example of 'what to do' - it just amuses the hell out of me that it's just that long. pc won't even load it all in one go properly :thumbsup:

    chester123;4990385

    So you would rather waste your time bringing someone in and interviewing … So you would rather waste your time bringing someone in and interviewing them instead of reading about it before?You sound like a great boss!!



    I agree with him, anything over 2 pages just shows that you are unfocused, don't know how to prioritize, have no idea how to sell yourself or have no commitment and just flit from job to job, therefore you wouldn't be making it to the interview stage...


    not with that attitude anyway :roll:

    chester123;4990385

    So you would rather waste your time bringing someone in and interviewing … So you would rather waste your time bringing someone in and interviewing them instead of reading about it before?You sound like a great boss!!



    What you say you could do on your CV against what I could prove you couldn't under cross examination would be a waste of my time as well as yours...

    The main thing is to check what the place you are applying to wants. Some have an online application form they prefer you to use. A lot of more casual jobs such as bar and shop chains also have thir own application form.

    If they do want a CV, it really helps to put it in clear sections: Personal Details, Academic Qualifications, Employment history and a small amount on hobbys. Sectioning will help you make sure it looks balanced, with not too much space used up by excessive detail.

    I'd generally say one page for most jobs, possibly with a two-page version to take with you if you get asked for an interview.

    Always include a specific (personally addressed if possible) cover letter. This stops your application looking generic and is an opportunity to get your personality accross without cluttering your CV.

    Don't include "full clean driving license" unless entirely relevant to the job! :oops:

    A lot of this is going to vary from job to job. In some professions you really do need to give some details of the projects that you've worked on and that is going to mean a 2 page CV is going to be standard. If you are just after a data entry job then 1 page will be enough. If you are after a software engineering position which requires client-server architecture experience and parallel programming then chances are you are going to need a lot of experience and you will have a lot to write about your past work.

    For a first job I would only expect to see a single page but as your experience grows I might expect to see details of several jobs listed and that would naturally suit a 2 page format.

    I usually get an interview with my CV and that is 3 pages - 2 of education and job experience and 1 of hardware/software/language experience. I do use reasonably large fonts though and I space it out nicely.

    A very dense, virtually unreadable 1 pager is worse than a 2 page well set out CV in my opinion. We've had several very densely printed CVs lately. I think that people are trying to cram everything that they used to write on 2 pages into a single page of print because they have been advised that you can't have more than a single page - and it just doesn't work.

    chester123;4990191

    I disagree with the one page rule. If you have lots of relevant … I disagree with the one page rule. If you have lots of relevant experience you want to list it to make yourself stand out from the rest. Mine is currently five pages!!!!!



    Don't care how much experience you have, if you cannot organise qualifications and experience on to 2 pages, then are you any good at expressing yourself clearly on paper (report writing), or condensing info?. Skills required in many jobs.

    CV's should always be tailored / changed, according the job you are applying for.........but can still be concise and to the point. Whether you have many degrees and a Phd, or very little.

    chester123;4990385

    So you would rather waste your time bringing someone in and interviewing … So you would rather waste your time bringing someone in and interviewing them instead of reading about it before?You sound like a great boss!!



    very few "bosses" actually read the cvs from applicants-they get involved at a far later stage in the process-they have given someone lower down the chain a small list of bullet points to filter the applications.

    also don't mention any crimes your awaiting trial for

    Thanks for the tips.

    When I go for my next job I will leave out all the bits about how I have saved 8 different banks millions per year and how I did it.

    I will however get it down to one or two pages.

    chester123;4991472

    When I go for my next job I will leave out all the bits about how I have … When I go for my next job I will leave out all the bits about how I have saved 8 different banks millions per year and how I did it.




    Probably for the best, I don't think the manager at your local Burger King is really going to care.

    chester123;4991472

    Thanks for the tips.When I go for my next job I will leave out all the … Thanks for the tips.When I go for my next job I will leave out all the bits about how I have saved 8 different banks millions per year and how I did it.I will however get it down to one or two pages.



    in the current climate I wouldnt mention any relationship with banks! clearly your saving them millions per year did the economy a world of good:whistling:

    If I receive a CV longer than 2 pages it gets binned automatically.

    List your key professional & personal achievements in a personal profile section first. List your previous jobs and summarise your role (update to match a job spec if applying for position)

    Get some voluntary work under your belt.......I like to employ staff who do some form of non drinking/socialising contribution to society.

    Spelling and grammar are important, I'll only accept 2 spelling mistakes.

    barky;4991627

    in the current climate I wouldnt mention any relationship with banks! … in the current climate I wouldnt mention any relationship with banks! clearly your saving them millions per year did the economy a world of good:whistling:



    Well not the departments that dealt in asset backed securities.

    keeyop;4991583

    Probably for the best, I don't think the manager at your local Burger … Probably for the best, I don't think the manager at your local Burger King is really going to care.



    They pay me well.

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    chester123;4992186

    They pay me … They pay me well.http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/379866/showpost.php?p=4922402&postcount=43





    Isn't the sound field severely dampened by the placement of the rears? It doesn't seem to leave much room for projection.

    It also looks like the majority of the framing was done with C2137 (and a couple of arqadia, although I may be confused with an ashworth and thompson), personally I'd recommend Midas 6018 or Frinton 1949, I'd also recommend swapping out the 2mm paper interleaved float glass (that they obviously used) for either GL53 museum glass or Schott Mirrorgard+ GL86 and on the smaller ones maybe some crescent Rag board would help, mounted onto HB43 with barrier board, CON1 or a decent KLB to bring them up to conservation standard (especially on any signed items).

    I guess you couldn't afford a setup based around the denon AVP-A1HDA, POA-A1HD and AVC-A1HDA, as far as speakers go I'm a Dyne-Audio fan myself. Well I guess Burger King doesn't pay as well as I thought. Guess I should stick to writing.

    I am impressed with the creative use of the bay window though.

    keeyop;4993832

    I guess you couldn't afford a setup based around the denon AVP-A1HDA, … I guess you couldn't afford a setup based around the denon AVP-A1HDA, POA-A1HD and AVC-A1HDA, as far as speakers go I'm a Dyne-Audio fan myself. Well I guess Burger King doesn't pay as well as I thought. Guess I should stick to writing.



    Probably could now, I bought the majority of that when I was 24/25 but I can't really justify spending more as I rarely have free time (80 hour weeks at BK)

    You must work as a framer to know that much, the room is permanently dark with no natural light, could they still get damaged?

    Dyne-Audio? Do you mean Dynaudio? If so they are no match for Bowers & Wilkins.

    chester123;4995061

    Probably could now, I bought the majority of that when I was 24/25.Can't … Probably could now, I bought the majority of that when I was 24/25.Can't really justify spending more as I rarely have free time (80 hour weeks at BK)




    work to live man, don't live to work.

    what's the point of having all the toys if you have no time to play with them?

    "We don't stop playing 'cause we grow old, we grow old 'cause we stop playing."

    keeyop;4995084

    work to live man, don't live to work.what's the point of having all the … work to live man, don't live to work.what's the point of having all the toys if you have no time to play with them? "We don't stop playing 'cause we grow old, we grow old 'cause we stop playing."



    I am working to retire by 35.

    Going back to the framing issue are my signatures at risk then? Should I have the glass changed? The glass is non-reflective but I don't know what type.

    chester123;4995223

    I am working to retire by 35.Going back to the framing issue are my … I am working to retire by 35.Going back to the framing issue are my signatures at risk then? Should I have the glass changed? The glass is non-reflective but I don't know what type.



    In all honesty, it is a sweet setup.

    Anything that is valuable should really be framed with an anti U.V. Something like Tru-Vue museum will reduce the reflection by 85% (to less than 1% of total light) but will also reduce the UV light rays by 98% it costs around £150 for a 48" x 36" sheet from a wholesaler (Wessex pictures, Glass & Mirror, Lion, etc)

    Schott Mirrorgard Protect will reduce the reflection to approx 0.9% and cancel out 99% of UV rays over the light spectrum (300nm - 380nm). but the wholesale cost does weigh in at about £500 for a 70" x 48" sheet, so you could expect to pay considerably more from a high street framer

    if cost is prohibitive then the lowest level I'd go for would be tru-vue conservation reflection control which is acid etched (fine if the glass is against the image but will distort if you go over 3 mats away (roughly 3200 micron) which again has a wholsale cost of around £45 for a 48" x 36"

    It is expensive, but if the artwork is valuable to it then it is definitely worth it, It would also be prudent to make sure that any backing boards used are conservation grade (if the backing is just 2mm MDF, Corri Core (flute) or Hardboard then it would be worth buying an acid free barrier paper to sit between that and the artwork (it's about £1.50 for a 44" x 32" 435micron sheet. If any of them use mountboards it would be worth checking that they are at least conservation grade (not standard or whitecore) solidcore or rag board is the best way to go but again it does push the costs up.

    chester123;4992186

    They pay me … They pay me well.http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/379866/showpost.php?p=4922402&postcount=43



    That could be one of the coolest set-ups I may have seen at home *drools*

    Not sure about picture quality though, I'll guess it's good though :P The only thing missing from that picture is the Xbox... And I jizzed in my pants.
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