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    Since todays fiasco of Geoff Hoon and Patricia Hewitt, what do you think of the inevitable?

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    Bring it on can't be any worse but probably not any better... infact i will vote for anyone who will get the unemployed out to clear the roads and paths rather than stay at home

    Were screwed no matter what.

    I dont actually agree its inevitable-likely yes but there is always the chance at the last minute that people will stick with brown in the belief that bhe can sort the economy. I actually think the american style debates may be very important this time and will be very interesting-its soo hard to see how brown has the personality to shine in these tho.

    for all camerons talk of change you just know he will revert to type the second he is made prime minister,as will his entire band-their years in the wilderness have taught them to tell the public anything-they seem to be promising the earth and more with no explanation as to how its being paid for.

    Marty1981;7451246

    Bring it on can't be any worse but probably not any better... infact i … Bring it on can't be any worse but probably not any better... infact i will vote for anyone who will get the unemployed out to clear the roads and paths rather than stay at home




    the scottish government had convicted criminals out doing this yesterday and today m8 so can the snp count on your vote?

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    Marty1981;7451246

    Bring it on can't be any worse but probably not any better... infact i … Bring it on can't be any worse but probably not any better... infact i will vote for anyone who will get the unemployed out to clear the roads and paths rather than stay at home



    Please don't make me clear the roads I like my bed

    One set of lying pigs gets replaced by another set of lying pigs. I don't see what the fuss is about.

    Four legs good, two legs bad.

    barky;7451331

    the scottish government had convicted criminals out doing this yesterday … the scottish government had convicted criminals out doing this yesterday and today m8 so can the snp count on your vote?



    Of course they can as long as they devolve scotland fully :thumbsup: and Gordon brown has to saty north well and it's a deal

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    Politicians are just citizens of this country - they go through the same schools, live in the same streets, drive the same cars, eat the same food, use the same services, get brought up in the same way....

    Why is anyone surprised at how rubbish the choice is?

    Marty1981;7451418

    Of course they can as long as they devolve scotland fully :thumbsup: and … Of course they can as long as they devolve scotland fully :thumbsup: and Gordon brown has to saty north well and it's a deal



    err,no-we dont want gordon brown thanks.

    Tony Blair got out just in time, He knew that we were doomed, Not a lot Flash Gordon could do.

    Labour have let us down

    Conservatives let us down even more in the past

    That Cameroon gezza is as fake as the rest of them.

    davelfc;7451392

    One set of lying pigs gets replaced by another set of lying pigs. I don't … One set of lying pigs gets replaced by another set of lying pigs. I don't see what the fuss is about. Four legs good, two legs bad.



    as far as im aware neither cameron nor brown have 4 legs

    micoo;7451522

    as far as im aware neither cameron nor brown have 4 legs



    Not surprised you didn't get the reference.

    barky;7451292

    I dont actually agree its inevitable-likely yes but there is always the … I dont actually agree its inevitable-likely yes but there is always the chance at the last minute that people will stick with brown in the belief that bhe can sort the economy. .



    more then likely this ^^^^^^. I really dont want to spend the next four years listening to a new government saying " we are trying to sort out the mess left by the previous government , so we cant do xyz "

    davelfc;7451540

    Not surprised you didn't get the reference.



    i did get the reference, Animal farm, wasnt the best metaphor however, besides thats what the smilie at the end was for to let you know i was kidding, not surpirsed you didnt get that

    micoo;7451567

    i did get the reference, Animal farm, wasnt the best metaphor however, … i did get the reference, Animal farm, wasnt the best metaphor however, besides thats what the smilie at the end was for to let you know i was kidding, not surpirsed you didnt get that




    surpirsed?

    davelfc;7451591

    surpirsed?



    no :lol:

    micoo;7451613

    no :lol:



    Glad you're sticking to the two letter answers, not much chance of getting them wrong eh?

    thought things couldn't get worse when SNP got in power in Scotland now moving back to a Tory government in the UK parliament

    find it worrying that Hoon and Co would rather ruin Labours slim chances of staying in power by disrupting the party, than unite and take on the tories worrying

    davelfc;7451711

    Glad you're sticking to the two letter answers, not much chance of … Glad you're sticking to the two letter answers, not much chance of getting them wrong eh?



    ye

    i dont see anyone outstanding enough to be leader of any party or PM. But I'd keep voting to keep the BNP out.

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    big Dave might bring back fox hunting, now I'm self employed and would like to vote Tory but why has the idiot introduced this topic back ...... just makes me vote elsewhere

    Sooner we get rid of Brown & co the better

    tory - no thanks - and not sure about inevitable

    A Tory Government...............!!!



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    bluedave;7452136

    Sooner we get rid of Brown & co the better



    any tips?:?

    goldmax;7452217

    any tips?:?



    General Election should do it:thumbsup:

    bluedave;7452136

    Sooner we get rid of Brown & co the better



    You don't think that it's important to evaluate the alternative, you would just want them out regardless?

    pghstochaj;7452353

    You don't think that it's important to evaluate the alternative, you … You don't think that it's important to evaluate the alternative, you would just want them out regardless?



    Well said.................:thumbsup:

    just say NO!

    pghstochaj;7452353

    You don't think that it's important to evaluate the alternative, you … You don't think that it's important to evaluate the alternative, you would just want them out regardless?



    The labour goverment has done sooooooooo much damage. Pensions & selling our gold reserves at rock bottom. Stealth taxes in every budget. Unecessary wars, unecessary deaths. Money ploughed into public services - but are any services improved ( though lots of nice new cars in the car parks) Big brother gone mad (id cards etc),

    It started so well - tough on crime and the causes of crime. Education education education. Money thrown at new ventures - noone in labour thought to save for a rainy day whilst the going was good.

    I have spent many years evaluating the alternatives - now thank goodness the end is nigh for a labour goverment. The tories will come in and sort out this countried finances yet again.

    Marty1981;7451246

    Bring it on can't be any worse but probably not any better... infact i … Bring it on can't be any worse but probably not any better... infact i will vote for anyone who will get the unemployed out to clear the roads and paths rather than stay at home



    Awful idea, I bet you have never been unemployed.

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    bluedave;7452595

    The labour goverment has done sooooooooo much damage. Pensions & selling … The labour goverment has done sooooooooo much damage. Pensions & selling our gold reserves at rock bottom. Stealth taxes in every budget. Unecessary wars, unecessary deaths. Money ploughed into public services - but are any services improved ( though lots of nice new cars in the car parks) Big brother gone mad (id cards etc),It started so well - tough on crime and the causes of crime. Education education education. Money thrown at new ventures - noone in labour thought to save for a rainy day whilst the going was good.I have spent many years evaluating the alternatives - now thank goodness the end is nigh for a labour goverment. The tories will come in and sort out this countried finances yet again.



    And the Tories would have?:-D

    bluedave;7452595

    The labour goverment has done sooooooooo much damage. Pensions & selling … The labour goverment has done sooooooooo much damage. Pensions & selling our gold reserves at rock bottom. Stealth taxes in every budget. Unecessary wars, unecessary deaths. Money ploughed into public services - but are any services improved ( though lots of nice new cars in the car parks) Big brother gone mad (id cards etc),It started so well - tough on crime and the causes of crime. Education education education. Money thrown at new ventures - noone in labour thought to save for a rainy day whilst the going was good.I have spent many years evaluating the alternatives - now thank goodness the end is nigh for a labour goverment. The tories will come in and sort out this countried finances yet again.



    Again? :w00t:

    You have evaluated why you want Labour out but not explained why the Tories would be any better? Getting out a political party is fine, aslong as the replacement is better.

    No political party is perfect but I think after 12/ 13 years of labour and their failure in bringing improvement to this country then its time they went out and gave the tories a go.
    Our country is in dire straits and we need to cut public spends. Whoever is in power after June 2010 is going to make major cuts to services and it's not going to be great for most of us - higher prices, reduced income not a great combination. I think the tories will do it more effectively, but hey we're all entitled to our own opinions. Just hope more agree with me than the labour lovers.

    bluedave;7452793

    No political party is perfect but I think after 12/ 13 years of labour … No political party is perfect but I think after 12/ 13 years of labour and their failure in bringing improvement to this country then its time they went out and gave the tories a go. Our country is in dire straits and we need to cut public spends. Whoever is in power after June 2010 is going to make major cuts to services and it's not going to be great for most of us - higher prices, reduced income not a great combination. I think the tories will do it more effectively, but hey we're all entitled to our own opinions. Just hope more agree with me than the labour lovers.



    But why will they do it more effectively? Or is it just a statement.

    Personally I think the majority of people have seen improvements to this country, but that doesn't necessarily mean it is as a result of Labour, it could have been the sustained growth over the late 90s onwards.

    Labour has had faliure after faliure. Our country is in the worst state that it has ever been in financially. Why do you think labour will suddenly after so many years of mismanagement get any better. Why are you still hailing such failures and just assuming that anyone else would do worse.
    The tories didn't sell the gold when they had they the chance. They didn't create stealth taxes on the pensions dividends. They ditdn't spend so much setting up unecessary Id cards. They didn't make up reasons to go to war. So they are just a few of the reasons that I think they should be given a chance.
    I'm not sure any of the parties out there would do worse that labour.
    So why oh why based upon all of their faliures would you want to give your support to labour.

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    bluedave;7453099

    Labour has had faliure after faliure. Our country is in the worst state … Labour has had faliure after faliure. Our country is in the worst state that it has ever been in financially. Why do you think labour will suddenly after so many years of mismanagement get any better. Why are you still hailing such failures and just assuming that anyone else would do worse.The tories didn't sell the gold when they had they the chance. They didn't create stealth taxes on the pensions dividends. They ditdn't spend so much setting up unecessary Id cards. They didn't make up reasons to go to war. So they are just a few of the reasons that I think they should be given a chance.I'm not sure any of the parties out there would do worse that labour.So why oh why based upon all of their faliures would you want to give your support to labour.



    Our exposure to the recession was so great because of the policies of the 80s. Labour's problem was being too much like the Tories.

    Im voting labour, Browns had a hard time but if Cameron had been in charge would things have been better? Brown has done nothing wrong, noone could have avoided all the things that have happened, Ive dont remember when the conservatives were in power, all ive ever known is labour and ive had a good time so im sticking with them

    bluedave;7452595

    The labour goverment has done sooooooooo much damage. Pensions & selling … The labour goverment has done sooooooooo much damage. Pensions & selling our gold reserves at rock bottom. Stealth taxes in every budget. Unecessary wars, unecessary deaths. Money ploughed into public services - but are any services improved ( though lots of nice new cars in the car parks) Big brother gone mad (id cards etc),It started so well - tough on crime and the causes of crime. Education education education. Money thrown at new ventures - noone in labour thought to save for a rainy day whilst the going was good.I have spent many years evaluating the alternatives - now thank goodness the end is nigh for a labour goverment. The tories will come in and sort out this countried finances yet again.



    oh yes we have forgotten suddenly about Maggie and the introduction of council taxes, have we!

    I have a feeling some people are being caught up in the "hype" made by the media.

    anyway, i think gordon brown is unlucky to be pm with the nigh on recession.
    However it is the party we should be looking at and I feel that Labour has done pretty ok so far with me. I personally havent started selling potatoes like they do in the Great Depression. I haven't seen prices "fluctuate" (maybe houses, but that tbh is not raelly the fault of the govt).

    I know some folks are going on about DEBT, and this is probably borrowed time we are living on atm. However, with Gordon Brown's 10 year history of the chancellor of the exchequer, I think I believe that he knows what he is doing. I'll leave it to him and Labour to sort it.

    I just dont like Labour for crime, education and the benefits system, so its a weighting game for me tbh.
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