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    Hi guys,

    I'm thinking about getting into Tropical Fish & having a small tank at home. I understand that these are quite difficult to master, but I'm willing to put my efforts into this

    Does anyone on here have any links for the basics, set-ups, maybe even your own photo's that I can take a look through before making the plunge.

    Cheers

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    They are quite high maintainance depending on which tropical fish you are keeping. Don't know of any site, but will try and dig out a few photos of my tank, I have 2 pirahnas ...fiesty little things!!

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    Cheers - I obviously want to read up as much as I can before deciding anything yet

    i puchased a BIORB great little bowl/tank put in a thermostat to convert it to tropical...im yet to get fish! but it looks really swanky and alot less hassle to clean (just change the filter!) id recommend it! about 70 quid i paid on ebay.....fairly good starter kit

    Have a look ]HERE Chris

    they have a good forum on the message board link too

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    Cheers guys - keep them coming

    Your basic needs for tropical fish are...

    A Tank, a heater, a filter, a light, some fish and some water.

    I'd recommend setting up your tank a couple of weeks before putting fish in.

    We had a tropical fish tank years ago, but my hubby kept overfeeding them and the fish all died!

    Important things that you will learn will be which fish to stock in your aquarium ie very nice having angel fish etc but make sure you do not mix them with tail nipping fish - learn how to balance the amonia,nitrates,nitrites etc in the water - do not Overstock the tank with fish and also do not stock too many fish too quickly as your biological filter will not be able to keep up - make sure you can put enough time into upkeep of the tank ie regular water changes etc
    Saying that when you can get it right and keep it looking right they are great. I am having to move to a bigger aquarium as my current one Juwel Vision 180 is getting too small so will end up getting a 350ltr Trigon
    Have fun

    Started at Christmas and now enjoying it. Some problems, some successes as is the way of these things. Read up as much as you can and take advice from books, websites etc and get in with your Local Fish Shop (LFS) for info and advice, water testing etc.

    Be prepared to let your tank settle for quite some time before introducing fish so that they can then be put in with least stress and best chance for survival. This process is referred to as cycling the tank.

    Have included most of the aquarium links I have saved in my favourites below as these were the result of a few days searching the web for info. Some may suit you and some may not but some good articles to get you up to speed in deciding what you might want and what you might not. People on forums are usually very happy to help people who want to learn or start in their hobby and there is a wealth of knowledge around. My username on these sites is same as here so may see you around!!

    First babies (fry) appeared in our tank over the weekend and the look on Mrs M and Little Miss M faces was worth all the effort I assure you.

    My tanks is same make and model as the one on this site: kazza.id.au/200…tml

    fishlore.com/Fir…htm

    practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk…php

    thinkfish.co.uk/

    thetropicaltank.co.uk/

    fishkeeping.co.uk/mod…=14

    totalfishkeeping.co.uk/art…php

    fishcrazy.co.uk/for…ms/

    fishforever.co.uk/cyc…tml

    aquahobby.com/e_f…php

    firsttankguide.net/cyc…php

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    Thanks a lot all.

    Murielson - Is it OK to pm you if I have any noobish questions ?

    I'm not in any rush, so can cycle the tank fishless for as long as needs be

    The neons look really cool but everyone I know had fish tanks always complained the other fish ate the Neons.

    No problems at all but still consider myself a novice. Experts are on the linked sites but I will do what I can.

    I'll be first to second using thinkfish.co.uk/ for compatability queries - but it is very generous on the stocking, so halve what they advise to begin with as a maximum.
    Fishless cycling is easy enough - but get some mature media off someone else and speed it up tenfold. (Find someone on fishforums.net/ ).
    Start with something hardy, and simple - then work your way up. I'd plant a good size tank (and I mean 120 L+ if you can as more water = less variation in statisitics).
    Use a bottle of pure ammonia, some media from another tank, and measure the nitrogen cycle to see when your cycle finishes.If in doubt use more ammonia as its easy to get rid of excess bacteria but impossible to get a load in at once (short of refrigerated bacteria kept in stasis until use which is of variable quality).
    Japanese Moss Balls are fantastic for keeping algae to a minimum, and a few red crystal shrimp will keep detritus at bay. Don't be tempted to get a cat to "keep the tank clean" as they will produce far more mess than they clean, become inefficient as they age, do need their own algae tablets, and if a common plec can grow to several feets.

    I did the pure ammonia cycle and it worked a treat - just make sure it is pure. Consensus seems to be if you shake it and get lots of bubbles don't use it as it will have something else in it too.

    Household ammonia from Homebase was fine for me. Another top tip - don't sniff it to test. For some barking reason I did and it near took my head and sinuses off - schoolboy error.

    Editted to add I have qty 2 smallish plecs (max 6" fully grown apparently) and they are messy ******s for certain but very entertaining. Little Miss M and Mrs M constantly remarking on how much waste comes from them but to see them eating, grazing on slices of cucumber is absorbing.

    I have never used ammonia. I have always seeded from a matue tank or started from scratch by using fish food on an uninhabited tank. Think I'd sooner pee in it than buy chemicals at Homebase - not that I've tried.

    As to OP talking of a small tank. Remember the bigger the better in terms of managing water quality. Just imagine the impact of a capful of domestos in a cereal bowl, then imagine a similar capful in a swimming pool. Get the idea. The smaller the tank, the greater the fluctuation.

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    Just sourced a 2nd hand tank with heater, gravel, lights, plants, ornaments etc, and it's 70L with a nice stand for £40.

    I'm assuming as it's 2nd hand, it wont take long to get the cycle correct ?

    What would people recommend fish wise for this size tank ?

    Whats the best way to de-chlorify the water thats added to the tank?

    Where is the best place to get the test kits from ?

    Thanks again

    [url]www.fishforums.com[/url] Great site, friendlyish people, and very good advice.

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    Thanks for the help guys - read so much on this subject over the last 2 weeks.

    Got my tank set-up, used existing filter media, just in the middle of my fishless cycle.

    Tank is easily processing 5ppm Ammonia down to 0ppm per 24 hours, Nitrites have been a constant 5ppm, just waiting for them to go down, so I've reduced my Ammonia input to 2-3ppm per day.

    Nitrates have been a constant 40ppm, they have reduced down to 30ppm since the introduction of some live plants, once my Nitrites have bottomed out, I'll do a 50% water change to get this down to
    Pic of my tank so far:

    http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/5176/fishtank3plantedug5.jpg


    Any idea's how long the Nitrite bacteria need to grow in order to "eat" all my Nitrites ?

    Went looking at fish in preparation for cycle time, been looking at guppies, black mollies, corys & zebra loaches. I want a "show" fish really, but none i've seen will either fit into my tank (fully grown), or be good within a community.

    Any recommendation for fish stock on a 70l tank ?


    Cheers

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    Thanks for the help guys - read so much on this subject over the last 2 … Thanks for the help guys - read so much on this subject over the last 2 weeks.Got my tank set-up, used existing filter media, just in the middle of my fishless cycle.Tank is easily processing 5ppm Ammonia down to 0ppm per 24 hours, Nitrites have been a constant 5ppm, just waiting for them to go down, so I've reduced my Ammonia input to 2-3ppm per day.Nitrates have been a constant 40ppm, they have reduced down to 30ppm since the introduction of some live plants, once my Nitrites have bottomed out, I'll do a 50% water change to get this down to Any idea's how long the Nitrite bacteria need to grow in order to "eat" all my Nitrites ?Went looking at fish in preparation for cycle time, been looking at guppies, black mollies, corys & zebra loaches. I want a "show" fish really, but none i've seen will either fit into my tank (fully grown), or be good within a community.Any recommendation for fish stock on a 70l tank ?Cheers



    You shouldn't be worrying too much about water changes, let the plants establish themselves and all will just level out.

    As for the fish, I honestly would stay well away from those livebearers. I'd probably have a single male siamese fighting fish, possibly with two females. A shoal of cardinal tetras, a shoal of corys and a few otocinclus or bristle nosed catfish.

    Parrot Cichlids

    google.co.uk/img…d=1

    Gorgeous 'show fish.' Very graceful. You won't see them at every pet shop, but they are there

    Come in lovely bright colours, blue/ green/ white/blue/purple/pink etc

    Much more expensive though that the fish you mention above. Guppies and mollies etc can be picked up for £1. Parrot fish are around £25 each at major garden centres, cheapest I've seen is £27 for 2 at the small local stores.

    Nice tank

    [url]www.fishforums.net[/url]

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    Parrot Cichlids … Parrot Cichlids http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/images/parrot_cichlid2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/pages/show_article.php%3Farticle_id%3D331&h=82&w=123&sz=13&tbnid=Va7VEgc8yp4J:&tbnh=82&tbnw=123&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dparrot%2Bfish&hl=en&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=1&ct=image&cd=1Gorgeous 'show fish.' Very graceful. You won't see them at every pet shop, but they are there :)Come in lovely bright colours, blue/ green/ white/blue/purple/pink etcMuch more expensive though that the fish you mention above. Guppies and mollies etc can be picked up for £1. Parrot fish are around £25 each at major garden centres, cheapest I've seen is £27 for 2 at the small local stores.Nice tank



    They do grow big, and are hybrids.

    I like many other of the folks at fishforums.net use Seachem Prime. It's potent stuff, 1ml for every 40l and is probably the best stuff you can get. Fish are reasonably easy to keep but once you add plants it starts becoming a hassle I also have a 70l (well 72l) Tropiquarium, I don't have much in it, just some Corys, Danios and my Male Siamese Fighting Fish (Betta Splendin) although some Bettas don't like being in community tanks. You could go for a group of Female Bettas?

    JDeal;1853974

    They do grow big, and are hybrids.



    I have seen some large ones, but they grow VERY slowly

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    Just incase anyone drags this up for future reference, I've found the most informative forums to be tropicalfish.site5.com, and the worst (with the worst & most confilcting advice) to be thinkfish.co.uk

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    By the way, I'm thinking of going for 2 female fighters & working all my other fish around them

    Isn't the minimum number of female fighters 4? I'm sure it's that to balance out aggression

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    OP.
    I have a fish tank that i advertised on here.
    I have a fluval filter, heater, food, fish net, water treatment stuff, light and a huge 80L tank.
    If any interests you, contact me.
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