TV Licence advice please

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Found 2nd Dec 2010
Need some advice please...

We have BT vision but don't have an aerial feed to it (we don't have the aerial feed wired up) so we can watch the replay things but obviously not live feed programmes.

Do we need a TV licence?

Had a bit of an argument on the phone with one lady as she said we did because we have things like an xbox 360, laptop etc... but if we don't watch TV on them why should I pay for a TV Licence?

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Original Poster

Doors

TV licence is for a tv



But on their website it says...

You need to be covered by a valid TV Licence if you watch or record television programmes as they're being shown on TV. This includes the use of devices such as a TV, computer, mobile phone, games console, digital box or DVD/VHS recorder.

we don't do this

If its capable of receiving live TV you need a licence, if its not then you don't....I think!


Edited by: "cdm22" 2nd Dec 2010

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no you dont.

cdm22

If its capable of receiving live TV you need a licence, if its not then … If its capable of receiving live TV you need a licence, if its not then you don't....I think!



Nope, if you use it to receive live TV you need a licence, not the same thing...

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cdm22

If its live TV you need a licence, if its not then you don't.



exactly what I thought, but like I said the flipping woman said I need one because of having an xbox 360, laptop, pc etc... they said they will send someone around to check our home so I want to make sure we are in the right and don't end up with a fine

just remember they have to ask to come into your house, to which you can say no. also they're not allowed to look in cupboards (i think) so if its a small TV it can be hidden. lol

Original Poster

so because we don't have the live aerial feed wired up we don't need a TV licence?

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golemsmate

just remember they have to ask to come into your house, to which you can … just remember they have to ask to come into your house, to which you can say no. also they're not allowed to look in cupboards (i think) so if its a small TV it can be hidden. lol



Lol it wouldn't fit in a cupboard but in all seriousness I don't mind them coming to look as long as Im in the right otherwise I'll end up with a big fine, Id rather just pay for a tv licence

jah128

Nope, if you use it to receive live TV you need a licence, not the same … Nope, if you use it to receive live TV you need a licence, not the same thing...



I believe this to be correct. However if you do ever use a device to receive live TV you will be required to get one and if you are just trying to avoid paying for one I would recommend to,as they are pretty hot on catching people
Edited by: "Doors" 2nd Dec 2010

golemsmate

just remember they have to ask to come into your house, to which you can … just remember they have to ask to come into your house, to which you can say no. also they're not allowed to look in cupboards (i think) so if its a small TV it can be hidden. lol



Can't stress this enough - they have NO Right to enter your home. without a Police Officer and a Warrant Hell I wouldn't even answer the door to them!

Emzy81

so because we don't have the live aerial feed wired up we don't need a TV … so because we don't have the live aerial feed wired up we don't need a TV licence?



Provided nothing you watch or record is being simulcast (such as MOTD shown simultaneously online and on TV), no, you don't

Doors

I believe this to be correct. However if you do ever use a device to … I believe this to be correct. However if you do ever use a device to receive live TV you will be required to get one and if you are just trying to avoid paying for one I would recommend to,as they are pretty hot on catching people



What are you basing that statement on?

Being caught, when I was a student
Edited by: "Doors" 2nd Dec 2010

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jah128

Provided nothing you watch or record is being simulcast (such as MOTD … Provided nothing you watch or record is being simulcast (such as MOTD shown simultaneously online and on TV), no, you don't



Nope we don't watch any TV online, literally the only TV we watch is the replay stuff on BT vision

Im not just trying to get out of paying for a licence I just don't see why I should have to pay if I don't watch live TV. If I watched live TV I'd pay, Ive always paid for a TV Licence but now we don't watch live TV I didn't think I needed one anymore

Emzy81

Nope we don't watch any TV online, literally the only TV we watch is the … Nope we don't watch any TV online, literally the only TV we watch is the replay stuff on BT visionIm not just trying to get out of paying for a licence I just don't see why I should have to pay if I don't watch live TV



You don't, but be warned they are quite aggressive (and unfair) in their tactics to persuade you that you do, and harass you for not doing so. Be prepared for at very least a monthly letter asking why you have no licence.

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jah128

You don't, but be warned they are quite aggressive (and unfair) in their … You don't, but be warned they are quite aggressive (and unfair) in their tactics to persuade you that you do, and harass you for not doing so. Be prepared for at very least a monthly letter asking why you have no licence.



Such a pain, its hard to ignore letters telling you that you could be in trouble....makes me doubt that Im in the right lol

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dcx_badass

You do not need one just because you own a TV, you only need it if you … You do not need one just because you own a TV, you only need it if you use it to watch TV as it is broadcast.Don't let the clueless idiots on here tell you otherwise, I use my TV to watch catchup TV online and as a PC monitor and DO NOT need one.



Fantastic, thanks for everyones help

If you use the equipment to watch live tv (whether that be via aerial, satelite, cable, internet, mobile etc) then you need a license. If you watch catch up tv then you don't need one (tvcatchup.com requires a license). I would recommend de-tuning any equipment etc just to make sure.

as long as the tv does not receive a live signal or you do not watch a live broadcast online then you do not require a tv license.
Edited by: "boabbyrab" 2nd Dec 2010

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boabbyrab

as long as the tv cannot receive a live signal or you do not watch a live … as long as the tv cannot receive a live signal or you do not watch a live broadcast online then you do not require a tv license.


all tvs can receive a live signal, otherwise it would be called a monitor!

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dcx_badass

You do not need one just because you own a TV, you only need it if you … You do not need one just because you own a TV, you only need it if you use it to watch TV as it is broadcast.Don't let the clueless idiots on here tell you otherwise, I use my TV to watch catchup TV online and as a PC monitor and DO NOT need one.Also it's not just an aerial, you DO need one if you watch TV online on sites such as TVcatchup which shows it as it is broadcast.They sent me loads of letters and I emailed inviting them round for tea and biscuits, they said they'd come but never did, ****. Also they kept sending letters saying they'd send round enforcers to check and I emailed telling them I'd told them I don't have a TV and they could come and check and they hadn't and to stop harassing me with threatening letters or I'd take them to court for harassment, got an apologetic email and no more letters.




Lol well if they do keep harassing me I'll have to try an email!


I know people keep saying I need one if I watch tvcatchup and stuff online but I don't watch that. Literally the ONLY thing we watch is replay things on BT Vision thats it, nothing on any of the computers, mobiles nothing else at all

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dcx_badass

You do not need one just because you own a TV, you only need it if you … You do not need one just because you own a TV, you only need it if you use it to watch TV as it is broadcast.Don't let the clueless idiots on here tell you otherwise, I use my TV to watch catchup TV online and as a PC monitor and DO NOT need one.Also it's not just an aerial, you DO need one if you watch TV online on sites such as TVcatchup which shows it as it is broadcast.They sent me loads of letters and I emailed inviting them round for tea and biscuits, they said they'd come but never did, ****. Also they kept sending letters saying they'd send round enforcers to check and I emailed telling them I'd told them I don't have a TV and they could come and check and they hadn't and to stop harassing me with threatening letters or I'd take them to court for harassment, got an apologetic email and no more letters.



which clueless idiots would those be considering the whole thread is saying you don't need one?

I haven't had a licence for 9 years, so don't believe anyone that says that they are hot on catching people.

The only people they catch are the numpties that admit they watch the TV, or the bigger ones that let them in their house.

csiman as long as the tv cannot receive a live signal or you do not watch … csiman as long as the tv cannot receive a live signal or you do not watch a live broadcast online then you do not require a tv license.all tvs can receive a live signal, otherwise it would be called a monitor!


whoops wrong wording, see what happens when i try to multitask.

I wonder if I can get away with not paying my TV licence this year (just come in), as there is a few seconds delay from the actual broadcast to my receiving it via digital (I used to notice this when switching between analogue and digital) . Surely that delay means the broadcast isn't live

You need TV licence if you are receiving live feed or live signal in any way shape or form.

If it's not live then you don't need to pay.

oO I just thought everyone who owned a colour tv had to have a license and only black and white ( many years ago i know !) where exempt

Ahh goody, another TV License thread. Isn't it funny that the TV License people leave people not sure whether they need a license, and some people are paying it just so they don't have the hassle, with other people deliberately being given wrong information.

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peodude

Ahh goody, another TV License thread. Isn't it funny that the TV License … Ahh goody, another TV License thread. Isn't it funny that the TV License people leave people not sure whether they need a license, and some people are paying it just so they don't have the hassle, with other people deliberately being given wrong information.



Yeah a bit unfair isn't it! Well if I don't have to pay I'm not paying!

dcx_badass

How much clearer can they be it outlines it exactly. People are just too … How much clearer can they be it outlines it exactly. People are just too stupid to go on the official site and look.http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/



Take it you didn't read post #6 then?

DCX my son had the same fight with them and also invited em round..they havent been lol
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