Tyre advice. Summer vs All season

deleted2646400's avatar deleted2646400
Posted 9th Oct 2022
Hi, I’ve been wanting to replace my front 2 tyres of my mk6 golf as they are quite low tread depth and one has been going flat every few days. Ive been searching for 205/55r16 tyres and am unsure what would be best.

My local tyre fitter said £65 for charmhoo ch01 touring tyres (b = wet, c = efficiency and 71db. Also 91v).

After some research it looks like. The goodyear efficientgrip performance 2 (on hukd) Is good spec and price but its a summer tyre. Seems like most tyres are summer tyres.
hotukdeals.com/dea…172

I would like some tyre advice. Do people use all purpose tyres? What tyres should I get? Ideally I want to spend around £70 per tyre but if really good ones are slightly more expensive then


I want to get some decent tyres for my car as I commute 1hr to uni by car and so think that I should get something that keeps me safe.

was thinking of changing alloys to accommodate 225/45r17 or 215/55r18 bc current wheels look small on my car or that my car is on stilts? But feel like it would be really expensive and idk if I could accidentally buy buckled wheels of fb? Opinions?

for anyone asking. I live in swansea (south wales). Colder than london by a few degrees but never snows

thank you
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  1. expandingmaan's avatar
    expandingmaan
    Hi. I haven't read the other replies, so I'm sorry if this is a repeat. But I've had Toyota's, one of them the traction became faulty.

    I've always purchased budget tyres which I thought were good. With a bit of wear, in the rain or slight misty rain, they had no traction at junctions. My car would skid and sometimes skid after joining the round about.

    Anyway, this lead me to buying all season tyres. So the compound of the rubber performs in the summer and in winter.
    For me, and most sane people - good tyres are a safety feature.

    I don't have the space or ability to store a spare set of rims for winter/summer swap outs - so I opt for all season tyres.

    I use to own michilen cross climates plus. Although I have never driven them in the snow, they are known to drive through snow.

    I now have goodyear vector 4 seasons gen 2 which rejuvenate themselves (supposedly) as the tread wears.
    They can also drive through snow if need be.

    Check out tyrereviews on YouTube - he's a knowledgeable guy on tyres. my influence has been from him.

    GT radials may also be an okay buy if you desire something slightly cheaper. I have them on my rear.

    Edit: I forgot to add that all season tyres don't perform as well is other tyres in the rain. Braking distance can sometimes be slightly worse - but nothing detrimental imo - aslong as your driving like a human being lol
    Where are you based?
    If your in the west mids, there is a guy in Dudley who does the best prices I've ever found on branded tyres. Silverback tyres. (edited)
    Stanmorepark's avatar
    Stanmorepark
    I have Michelin Cross Climate tyres and use them all year... they have got me out of trouble a few times when we have had snowfall here. It doesn't happen often but when you live in a hilly, rural area and the snow and ice hits, you can very easily get stuck, which has happened to me. After one such time I promised myself never to get stuck again and decided on the Michelins. Have been using them for many years now. I don't have four wheel drive but with the cross climates on, I could drive on icy and snowy roads that most other drivers couldn't manage. Particularly good at managing icy and snowy hills. They perform well in all weathers in my experience and wouldn't go back to ordinary tyres now. I haven't really noticed any real MPG penalty either, but then I don't drive around like a mad thing, which accounts for a lot of people's higher fuel consumption. You soon catch up with the one's who go flying past you at the next set of lights (edited)
  2. pluves1's avatar
    pluves1
    Surprised no one has pointed out yet. DO NOT MIX summer tyres and all season. You only mention replacing the front two tyres so that will be your cheapest option to put two new summer tyres on. Contrary to popular belief for a front wheel drive like a golf your new tyres should actually be rotated to the rear with the 'old' rears switched to the front.
    Decide if you want new alloys. They're not cheap and you'll have to notify your insurance. I run a BMW so from April to October I run 19" summer tyres on those alloys. In winter I switch to 18" winter tyres as BMW''s are useless in snow on summer tyres.
    If you want a cheap option just find yourself a local independent tyre place that offers good advice and decent spec tyres. My local one stocks Maxxi's and Nexen's as cheaper alternatives to the Goodyears, Pirellis, Continentals etc and to be honest for the little VW Polos we run the Nexens are a really good tyre for the money and should be around your £70 budget. Just remember not to mix all season and summer tyres. If you're going to run all season you'll need to replace all four initially.
    slimy31's avatar
    slimy31
    Just to expand on your tyre rotation point, ALL new tyres should go on the rear, regardless of drivetrain. It's not to do with getting the power down on the road, it's to stop the car potentially doing a 180 on you. Putting the new tyres on the back means the car will more likely understeer which is a preferred option. After all, we're not all Top Gear presenters!
  3. EndlessWaves's avatar
    EndlessWaves
    A good all season tyre should be the default choice these days as they hugely outperform summer tyres in some conditions, while the reverse isn't true.

    If you're running it on the tightest budget you can then maybe summer tyres but generally I'd say summer tyres are only for sporty cars where getting the best possible handling feel is the priority.
    deleted2646400's avatar
    Anonymous User Author
    Makes sense. Idk whats a realistic price most people pay for all purpose. Is 120£ each or 100£ each the norm. The asymmetric 5s got really hot on here but they are summer tyres (not my size either).
  4. Sackboy1's avatar
    Sackboy1
    Rather than anecdotal evidence from drivers here, read the independent TUV SUD test on the Goodyear Efficientgrip 2 here:

    goodyear.eu/con…pdf

    If you are still unsure and are contemplating all season tyres, this test below gives some good insight in the difference in wet braking at different temperatures betwen winter, all season and summer tyres.

    youtu.be/bKt…Mxk

    If someone says to you summer tyres are no good at wet braking, they don’t know what they are talking about.
    deleted2646400's avatar
    Anonymous User Author
    Interesting video. Seems the cross climates are the standard and really good. Better than the summer tyre but i was still impressed with the summer tyre. it seemed like the video could have had more temperatures and included another summer tyre etc. Thanks, ill look into both more
  5. MonkeyMan90's avatar
    MonkeyMan90
    That quote is pretty expensive. My local tyre fitter never charged anymore than £60 each for pirelli or Michelin tyres. Also don't put 18" wheels on a car designed for 16" wheels it will cause all sorts of problems including an incorrect Speedo. Shop around you will get a better deal. Also get all season because summer doesn't really happen in the UK
    deleted2686495's avatar
    Anonymous User
    By that definition we haven't really had winter for the past few years.
  6. bigwheels's avatar
    bigwheels
    I used winter tyres for work, they were great.
    Not needed them in the last 9 years.
    Not near my desk top so don’t have my list of tyre fitting shops at a good price.
    Found this, Avon all season.
    Fitted at national tyres.
    Code is added, but put it in the box again so you could use it.

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  7. gravy_davey's avatar
    gravy_davey
    Good call on getting decent tyres for safety reasons.
    Obviously DYOR but I came to the conclusion it wasn’t worth it for where I live, mileage and roads I drive on.
    If you live more north I’d say All Seasons are probably worth it. But living further south the temps rarely were cold enough for extended periods of time to make them worth it. + the potential drop in MPG hurt my wallet too much
    deleted2646400's avatar
    Anonymous User Author
    Ive been swaying between the Michelin cross climates or the good year efficient grip 2s. Seems the goodyears are more grippy in wet and advertised as long lasting. I live in Swansea and city drive/ motorway drive so seems like all weather tyres are not necessary. Idk though fully
  8. JimboParrot's avatar
    JimboParrot
    Whereabouts in UK do you live? I can recommend a tyre place but it is in the south east.
    deleted2646400's avatar
    Anonymous User Author
    Live in Swansea. But thank you
  9. unasistent's avatar
    unasistent
    Seen all this hype for goodyear asymetric and crossclimate..as for all season what are best recomandation for not so many miles,but want comfort,reduce noise,and long lasting for north east UK.i have a skoda octavia with 225/40/18
    deleted2686495's avatar
    Anonymous User
    North east UK means Newcastle or Fraserburgh?


    (Cos some people have weird definitions of that....)
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