Found 25th Aug 2009
I don't usually post links to BBC news articles, but I thought that the chance for us nerdier members to lol at the BBC for describing the iPlayer service as "legal file sharing" was too lulzy an oppertunity to pass up. Doncha just love how clueless these people are?

news.bbc.co.uk/1/h…stm

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If you download the program from the iPlayer it is file sharing isn't it?

but its legal to do so because you cant share it

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sancho1983;6112310

If you download the program from the iPlayer it is file sharing isn't it?


i would think so as as the bbc are sharing the file lol :whistling:

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sancho1983;6112310

If you download the program from the iPlayer it is file sharing isn't it?



No, that's just downloading from a server. Filesharing is where you download from and upload to your peers.

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dxx;6112338

No, that's just downloading from a server. Filesharing is where you … No, that's just downloading from a server. Filesharing is where you download from and upload to your peers.



Are you sure? I thought the iplayer when you downloaded uploaded too?

colinsunderland;6112352

Are you sure? I thought the iplayer when you downloaded uploaded too?



You do. :thumbsup:
It's a legal way to file share, just as it says so in the article.

even if it did would still be legal as copyright holder has given permission

there is loads of legal p2p -
linux iso's
homebrew
music
video

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European politicians recently ruled that cutting off someone's internet … European politicians recently ruled that cutting off someone's internet connection could be a breach of their human rights.



:lol:

Have to laugh, you just have to.

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colinsunderland;6112352

Are you sure? I thought the iplayer when you downloaded uploaded too?



I think you're mixing it up with 4OD, which installs (or installed, I think they might've changed it) Kontiki to help ease the load on the 4OD servers by using a p2p distribution technology that's based on BitTorrent. That's as memory serves, anyway. iPlayer, that's just flash video streamed from the server the same as Youtube, unless there's some trickery going on that I haven't noticed.

If you watch iplayer streaming it is uses flash but if you download it uses a Peer to peer programme,

What are the chance's of this happening?

Always hearing about it, but never any action. Will the ISP's really cut off 7 million people.

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tonyg1962;6112642

If you watch iplayer streaming it is uses flash but if you download it … If you watch iplayer streaming it is uses flash but if you download it uses a Peer to peer programme,



thats what i thought too
Been a while since I used it though so maybe its changed

dxx

I thought that the chance for us nerdier members to lol at the BBC for … I thought that the chance for us nerdier members to lol at the BBC for describing the iPlayer service as "legal file sharing" was too lulzy an oppertunity to pass up



So you guys have spent a whole page arguing the point that i first made. Like i said, downloading from the iPlayer is file sharing, i didn't say it was illegal, i was joist pointing out to the OP that the BBC were correct in their description :roll:

1. They are unlikely to get this in to law before the Torys get in (of course they could also be keen on it). Unless Mandy goes nuclear and uses the parliament act - but I doubt they paid him enough bribe money for that.

2. It works by the Intellectual Property owner informing the ISP of violation. Usually proof is only torrent IP logs - which don't hold water in court. All it will take is for a rich geek to get cut off who sues the ISP - who then sue the government - and the EU courts tell them the law is not lawful.

jaybizzle;6112688

What are the chance's of this happening?



Extremely slim.

Simply put, they haven't done their homework.

Just look at counterfeit clothing and how hard that is to control. Or illegal drugs, or anything else that the government tries to enforce. It doesn't work, it just gets worse and goes deeper underground.

The LibDems are right on this one, they need to change hearts and minds, a clever propaganda war perhaps. ]That usually works :whistling:

alternate;6119139

1. They are unlikely to get this in to law before the Torys get in (of … 1. They are unlikely to get this in to law before the Torys get in (of course they could also be keen on it). Unless Mandy goes nuclear and uses the parliament act - but I doubt they paid him enough bribe money for that.



I think the funniest thing in all this is the total show up of labour for what they really are. Proof yet again that labour = conservative. To quote wiki.....

Socialists mainly share the belief that capitalism unfairly concentrates … Socialists mainly share the belief that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital through exploitation, creates an unequal society, does not provide equal opportunities for everyone to maximize their potentialities and does not utilize technology and resources to their maximum potential nor in the interests of the public. Therefore socialists advocate the creation of a society that allows for the widespread application of modern technology to rationalize the economy by eliminating the anarchy in production of capitalism[4], allowing for wealth and power to be distributed more evenly based on the amount of work expended in production, although there is considerable disagreement among socialists over how and to what extent this could be achieved.



These plans appear to be the complete opposite of socialist beliefs then:whistling:
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