UK 'Teen' Drinking and your favourite booze drink? [poll]

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Found 18th Aug 2007
Was browsing around a different forum and came across a similar thread, and was wondering on your opinions.

What's everyone's opinion on 'underage teen drinking'? (I use that term loosely). By underage teen drinking I mean drinking alcohol (in public) for people aged under 18, most noticeably 14-16 year olds.

Facts:
There is no under-age teen drinking law, if your beer is confiscated by the police, its for consuming it in a public place (can't remember the exact name) and disturbing the peace.
It's illegal for under 18s, sometimes 21 year-olds, to purchase booze.
10% of 12-15 yr-old drinkers say they buy their own alcohol.1 63% of 16-17 yr-olds have bought their own booze in pubs, nightclubs and bars.
54% of 11-12 year olds said they drank at home or at someone else's home. 33% of 15 yr-olds drank alcohol in a pub or bar and 26% of 14-yr-olds said they drank at parties with friends.


I believe drinking 'underage' is OK (even if you're paraletic) as long as you are not disturbing anyone else, causing a nusience, at home or someone elses house, and generally being normal (as in not acting an idiot about it).

edit; I drink Cider (Strongbow) mostly, but I prefer Alcopops and Spirits as they taste nicer and are, usually, stronger, although they do make you feel even more bloated than Strongbow does!

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Why can most of Western Europe function normally with long drinking hours and 16year old age limit on drink but we have to consider 21year old Americanesque post-prohibition backwardness?

Why is the UK this ****ed up tbh?

Original Poster

Exactly, long drinking hours and 16-year old legal buying booze age would be fine - more money [tax] for the government.

I'm 16 and im not gonna lie, i drink quite a bit - and yeah i do sometimes drink in public [not in the street, but rural aread, fields/parks]

I can get served in two shops i know without showing ID 'providing i have a bag' because they dont have bags and its not because i look 18, because i dont, i struggle to get served lottery tickets / cigarettes without ID.


I drink vodka/Cider or anything really - no i dont get pissfaced - i know my limits.

MMM VK Blue or Smirnoff Ice

I like a mix but if I drink spirits all night I feel ill next day, alcopops just make me fill a bit sickly in the way I had too much sugar.

I generally drink alcopoprs and towards end of night might have 1 or 2 vodkas and pepsi as I want to sit down as im getting knackered

Larger? Larger than what?

And where is good old beer/ale? And what about wine?

Also: "FACTS: It's illegal for under 18s, sometimes 21 year-olds, to purchase booze."

Since when has it been illegal for an under 21 year old to purchase alcohol? The law advises people to ask those who appear under 21 for identification, but the law states 18 years old as the age at which you can purchase alcohol from an on or off license.

No bitter.

Have you forgotten about us 'up north' ?

I dont actually like any alcoholic drinks....

Where the tripple malt??

Original Poster

jah128

Larger? Larger than what?And where is good old beer/ale? And what about … Larger? Larger than what?And where is good old beer/ale? And what about wine?Also: "FACTS: It's illegal for under 18s, sometimes 21 year-olds, to purchase booze."Since when has it been illegal for an under 21 year old to purchase alcohol? The law advises people to ask those who appear under 21 for identification, but the law states 18 years old as the age at which you can purchase alcohol from an on or off license.



Haha, changed & added bitter.

edit; maybe not, I guess Moderators/Admins can only edit polls.
edit2; I mean't 21 for spirits?

kelly_o_fanatic

I dont actually like any alcoholic drinks....



What have you tried?

Jelly

What have you tried?



Nothing really, dont even like the smell of any of them! Most I've ever had is a sip of a couple of things when I was practically forced (by family! - christmas and stuff) to try some.

Dont even like the non-alcoholic versions (or smell of them!)

non-drinkers tend to be ostracised and made to feel like outsiders since majority use it to socialise, that grotesque behaviour isn't changing anytime soon.

I think Larger will be popular in this poll, far better than a small measure!

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kelly_o_fanatic

Nothing really, dont even like the smell of any of them! Most I've ever … Nothing really, dont even like the smell of any of them! Most I've ever had is a sip of a couple of things when I was practically forced (by family! - christmas and stuff) to try some. Dont even like the non-alcoholic versions (or smell of them!)


im sure if you try enough of them you will find one you like

I'm not a fan on alcohol altogether because my brother has shown me all too often the morning after effects. Also that 7 out of 10 murders in Scotland are caused by people under the influence of drugs or alcohol, maybe both if they are having a party! However I think our drinking culture needs to change more than the legal drinking age.

schizoboy

Why can most of Western Europe function normally with long drinking hours … Why can most of Western Europe function normally with long drinking hours and 16year old age limit on drink but we have to consider 21year old Americanesque post-prohibition backwardness?Why is the UK this ****ed up tbh?


Having lived in Europe for a number of years i can answer this one - because generally most European teenagers (and adults) do not drink to excess.

It is a fairly pathetic attitude to argue that it would benefit the treasury by allowing younger teenagers to buy (and subsequently suffer the effects of ) alcohol. It is highly unlikely that most younger people have paid taxes anything like the amount it costs call out the emergency services to deal with the effects of alcohol.

It also annoys the hell out of me, when others almost ridicule those who choose not to 'drink'! Admittedly, we have offered drinks to our daughter - but she doesn't like the taste or smell. Why should she be forced to by peer pressure - don't forget - you may think you are not causing a problem, but to the ones around who are still having a good time without being skitfaced - you look like a complete tw*t!!

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i sometimes think that raising the drinking age to 21 may help a little but then again i look at a France and they drink from a young age there.

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From a young age I had a drink at Christmas etc. Then when a bit older you used to try and get the odd drink at parties. Thats ok and part of growing up.

What I hate is kids drinking in the park or down the alley causing a nuisance. I have vast experience having just moved from above an offie where children were hanging around my back garden chucking all their mess over from the alleyway.

Bunch of no good tossers who parents couldn't give a ****.

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Prissymiss

From a young age I had a drink at Christmas etc. Then when a bit older … From a young age I had a drink at Christmas etc. Then when a bit older you used to try and get the odd drink at parties. Thats ok and part of growing up.What I hate is kids drinking in the park or down the alley causing a nuisance. I have vast experience having just moved from above an offie where children were hanging around my back garden chucking all their mess over from the alleyway.Bunch of no good tossers who parents couldn't give a ****.


thats if their parents know :giggle:

Prissymiss

From a young age I had a drink at Christmas etc. Then when a bit older … From a young age I had a drink at Christmas etc. Then when a bit older you used to try and get the odd drink at parties. Thats ok and part of growing up.What I hate is kids drinking in the park or down the alley causing a nuisance. I have vast experience having just moved from above an offie where children were hanging around my back garden chucking all their mess over from the alleyway.Bunch of no good tossers who parents couldn't give a ****.


I know im a teenager and do drink in parks, but i dont do that, even if im tipsy i still have respect for people and wont get in anyones way and will bin everything.

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hothothot

thats if their parents know :giggle:



Their parents don't care, if they did they wouldn't be out so late on school nights. The girls nowadays act like a right bunch of slappers. I could hear every word. I would hate to have a teenager nowadays if these are an example.

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Prissymiss

Their parents don't care, if they did they wouldn't be out so late on … Their parents don't care, if they did they wouldn't be out so late on school nights. The girls nowadays act like a right bunch of slappers. I could hear every word. I would hate to have a teenager nowadays if these are an example.


there a nice ones out there, like me :-D

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hothothot

there a nice ones out there, like me :-D



Of course there are.

They are not the ones who are out causing problems though. I'm afraid these kids spoil it for the others.

Prissymiss

Of course there are.They are not the ones who are out causing problems … Of course there are.They are not the ones who are out causing problems though. I'm afraid these kids spoil it for the others.


There are - i know kids as young as 11 who get legless every week.

Cider ftw, when you can buy a 3litre bottle for £3 what better route can you go, if you are a heavy weight than you can go for a second but forget expensive vodka

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that young :-( then that is the parents fault

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i voted cider :-D

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t0mm

There are - i know kids as young as 11 who get legless every week.



I'm no angel, I used to go to pubs and clubs at 16, maybe lower. But, I never hung around drinking in the street etc. We would never cause anyone trouble either and had respect for people and their property. If we had nowhere to go, we would stay in.

Thats the difference now, no respect for anything or anyone.

Prissymiss

Their parents don't care, if they did they wouldn't be out so late on … Their parents don't care, if they did they wouldn't be out so late on school nights. The girls nowadays act like a right bunch of slappers. I could hear every word. I would hate to have a teenager nowadays if these are an example.



I stopped drinking cos there were no slappers around when I was young now I have a choice of drinking or my job, drinking lost :giggle:

hothothot

i sometimes think that raising the drinking age to 21 may help a little … i sometimes think that raising the drinking age to 21 may help a little but then again i look at a France and they drink from a young age there.


I'm not sure that raising the legal drinking will make much difference - education and common sense might be more productive. Yes french kids are introduced to 'drink' from a much earlier age, but very very diluted and just a glass with an evening meal. There is masses of peer pressure for teenagers to drink. Although my daughter is sensible, i feel sick at the thought that she will get in a car with a mate who is 'fine' and 'only had a couple' and end up being another mortuary statistic.
We've all done the bit where we feel very grown up because ,under adult supervision, we've enjoyed a drink with the 'adults', but now teenagers seem to feel it's their God given right to get smashed at the drop of a hat. My terminally ill MIL (who was undergoing painful chemotherapy) asked one of the very young nurses treating her, if she had any plans for the weekend - "going out and getting very drunk i hope - i've had a really bed week!" - Mmm maybe scerocis(sp?) of the liver / cancer followed by heavy medication would be a better end to the week?!!?

To be honest whenever me and my friends go to parties and drink, we can do so without causing any problems (no complaints from neighbours etc) the problem is that people just don't know there limits and become so drunk they are unable to look after themselves.

I don't think that raising the legal limit would serve any purpose other than to make sure all the corner shops get the drinking trade and the supermarkets lose out. I think what the kids of today need is to have proper education on drink. Not just the usual "this is alcohol, this will make you drunk" people need to understand how it affects the way you think, and therefore act towards different situations therefore allowing people to know when enough is enough.

But i think that most of the problems people have described in this thread for example "prissymiss" (i think thats your name) are problems that are not directly caused by alcohol, i think that these sort of problems are the result of a comple change in attitude in society both by the way parents are bringing their kids up and the way that kids view others.
I just have to think back to my first year of school and being **** scared of all the year 11's and made sure that you never even looked at one the wrong way or you'd get a beating. But now, the year 7's are cheeky and have no respect for anyone or anything.

Going even more of topic i think that another reflection of the cause of all these problems is that naughty kids aren't made to take responsiblity for any of their actions or behaviour and are instead excused for their stupid behaviour by being diagnosed with ADHD or what other name they give it. Ofcourse there are genuine kids that suffer from this, but i can't see how all of a sudden my generation has a massive increase in the amount of kids being diagnosed with it as opposed to other generations other than our PC society doesn't want to tell anybody that they need to sort themselves out.

Well thats my view.

(Might be some spelling grammar mistakes, i'll correct them another time :thumbsup:)

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I never said drink was the whole problem. I blame their parents.

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yes i hate cocky little kids

Kids are cocky because they are pretty much immune to everything, in the last week 2 people who confronted children on the street have ended up dead Obviously they are extreme cases but by law you can't touch them and the police can't be bothered to drive out to every call about them. Plus if you do there is a high chance your car will find some nice new speed lines thanks to one of their keys!

Robotochan

Kids are cocky because they are pretty much immune to everything, in the … Kids are cocky because they are pretty much immune to everything, in the last week 2 people who confronted children on the street have ended up dead Obviously they are extreme cases but by law you can't touch them and the police can't be bothered to drive out to every call about them. Plus if you do there is a high chance your car will find some nice new speed lines thanks to one of their keys!



The result of all these housing estates, with chav benefit scum who open their legs and sprout out these rats to sponge the extra £££££ from gov and do sweet fa about them not caring about what they get up to resulting they care nowt about what they do, the consequences, who they upset or what they damage nor that it's right or wrong.

Any teenager above 13 that even grazes the law should be forced into a brought back National Service, could easily be introduced over summer and help suspend some of the overprotective rights on kids these days so long as the church isn't involved

I wouldn't say national service as I wouldn't want to trust one of them with a weapon, maybe Military led schools? Drill disipline into the little gits

i do some volunteer work with young teens and what they get up to even with their parents knowing is really worrying. however some of the worst kids do show massively different behavior when with adults that listen and provide some structure in their lives.

lazy parents are to blame. routine and time are what kids need, a child should be kept busy and made to spend time in their family unit.

i have 3 sons and i expect them to sit with us at meal times, sometimes i would like to do my own thing but i do get pleasure from watching them play football, cycle, swim, run, the list goes on but at least they settle down in the evening totally shattered rather than head for the off licence.
to stop kids drinking and causing trouble a lot of parents need support and advice.
there're are some truly rotten kids out there but if some can be taught to respect themselves it would be a start.

The real problem is, many ( not all ) of today's youth think it is really clever to get smashed out of their heads, it isn't, any idiot can do it.

This really is a UK thing, it doesn't happen in wider Europe, well apart from where the " Brits Abroad " go.:roll:

Has anyone mixed lager with coke?

if you haven't try it.

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yinujim

Has anyone mixed lager with coke?if you haven't try it.



Thanks for adding that infomation to the debate!

yinujim

Has anyone mixed lager with coke?if you haven't try it.



:giggle:

Doesn't sound like it would taste to great to be honest, i'll give it a go at reading next week though :thumbsup: ;-)
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