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    Upgrade graphics card from GT 610 Nvidia - without changing power supply?

    A friend would like to upgrade his graphics card, but doesn't want to change motherboard or power supply. What's the best way of finding compatible cards?

    He's got a:
    Asus GeForce GT 610 Nvidia Graphics Card (1GB DDR3, PCI Express 2.0, HDMI, DVI-I, VGA, DirectX 11.0, OpenGL 4.2)

    Cheers!

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    Find out what psu wattage he currently has and if the case is SFF or bigger as you wouldn't want to pick a gpu that cannot fit or that would overload the psu

    You'll need to supply more info first. The make and model of the power supply he already has if possible and also what it is he intends to do with the new card, suggestions will vary wildly depending on if its just to watch movies and go on facebook or wants to play games.

    Without telling us what power supply they currently have, its impossible to answer that question

    outervision.com/pow…tor

    Use this. Input all of the components, see what wattage is suggested. Then swap out the GPU for one that you are interested in/within budget. It will tell you the recommended PSU wattage for the build. Check if the motherboard has PCI-e 3.0, if so, most modern graphics cards (480 seems to be the popular choice for price/performance atm) should fit.

    Original Poster

    Thanks for help guys.

    I'll find out the power supply info, but it's for using with a flight simulator; probably X-Plane 11.

    gtx 1050 based on the fact you have provided little info.

    750ti/1050ti, both your best bet without knowing the PSU. I've had them running on poor 240w supplies before.
    They also both come in a SSF case size.

    The above answers (1050 and 750ti) are both strong, low power consumption cards. Regardless, I would not recommend sticking them into the build until you are sure the PSU can handle the load, (the gt610 you listed uses 29 watts, whereas the 750ti uses 60 watts and the 1050 uses 75 watts). Likely the supplied PSU can handle the load, but not worth ordering without checking first.

    Just get a 750ti the Power Draw Is Extremely low from them

    The gtx 610 has the same recommended power supply (300w) as a 1050 which would be a massive upgrade and able to play pretty much anything at reduced settings

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    Nalwoir

    The above answers (1050 and 750ti) are both strong, low power consumption … The above answers (1050 and 750ti) are both strong, low power consumption cards. Regardless, I would not recommend sticking them into the build until you are sure the PSU can handle the load, (the gt610 you listed uses 29 watts, whereas the 750ti uses 60 watts and the 1050 uses 75 watts). Likely the supplied PSU can handle the load, but not worth ordering without checking first.



    His PSU is 300w.

    So would the 1050 work as codnan pointed out?

    quantum77

    His PSU is 300w.So would the 1050 work as codnan pointed out?



    Most likely. PSU's will degrade over time, so it's 'rating' may have fallen a little now, especially if the computer is 5+ years old. This is unlikely to be a problem, but I wouldn't want to recommend it without a warning first ;-)

    Personally, I would take the risk, but maybe order from scan.co.uk and pay for installation protection (about £10 AFAIK) if you are worried.

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    Nalwoir

    Most likely. PSU's will degrade over time, so it's 'rating' may have … Most likely. PSU's will degrade over time, so it's 'rating' may have fallen a little now, especially if the computer is 5+ years old. This is unlikely to be a problem, but I wouldn't want to recommend it without a warning first ;-)Personally, I would take the risk, but maybe order from scan.co.uk and pay for installation protection (about £10 AFAIK) if you are worried.



    Thanks for the info. Just to be sure we're talking about the GeForce GTX 1050 and not the Ti model (GeForce GTX 1050 Ti)?

    Also I never realised there were some many brands (e.g. ASUS, Palit, EVGA) of the same card. I assume there's not much difference between them?

    quantum77

    Thanks for the info. Just to be sure we're talking about the GeForce GTX … Thanks for the info. Just to be sure we're talking about the GeForce GTX 1050 and not the Ti model (GeForce GTX 1050 Ti)? Also I never realised there were some many brands (e.g. ASUS, Palit, EVGA) of the same card. I assume there's not much difference between them?



    Both the 1050 and 1050ti have the same power consumption, so either would be fine with the PSU your friend has.The 1050ti has 4gb of VRAM compared to 2gb on the 1050. This doesn't equate to double performance, but the 1050ti is certainly a better buy, as it will handle games at higher settings for a longer time.

    With regards to the manufacturers, they all use the same chipset and board designs (with some small variations). The differences come in size (what will fit inside the case, not really a problem with these cards though), cooling (1,2 or 3 fans), clock speed (marginal variability across the board) and customer service.

    I personally have had EVGA, Gigabyte and ASUS cards. EVGA have the best customer support, so if anything goes wrong while it is in warrenty they are fantastic. Gigabyte make some very cool cards (as in, they stay cold) and ASUS are generally a good shout all round (some debate here, but I personally have never had a problem with them).

    Ultimately, for a non-enthusiast, I would go with whichever 1050ti is on deal at the moment. (I personally don't go with Palit or Inno3D, as they use cheaper components, but for an entry level card (the XX50 or XX50ti cards are considered as such) you probably wouldn't go too wrong grabbing one from these manufacturers either.


    EDIT:
    Personally, I would go for this MSI one: box.co.uk/MSI…HAQ

    Although the most recent 1050ti deal is also good: amazon.co.uk/gp/…-21

    I will check the exact specs to see the difference between the two after lunch. :-)
    Edited by: "Nalwoir" 2nd Mar

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    Nalwoir

    Both the 1050 and 1050ti have the same power consumption, so either would … Both the 1050 and 1050ti have the same power consumption, so either would be fine with the PSU your friend has.The 1050ti has 4gb of VRAM compared to 2gb on the 1050. This doesn't equate to double performance, but the 1050ti is certainly a better buy, as it will handle games at higher settings for a longer time. With regards to the manufacturers, they all use the same chipset and board designs (with some small variations). The differences come in size (what will fit inside the case, not really a problem with these cards though), cooling (1,2 or 3 fans), clock speed (marginal variability across the board) and customer service. I personally have had EVGA, Gigabyte and ASUS cards. EVGA have the best customer support, so if anything goes wrong while it is in warrenty they are fantastic. Gigabyte make some very cool cards (as in, they stay cold) and ASUS are generally a good shout all round (some debate here, but I personally have never had a problem with them). Ultimately, for a non-enthusiast, I would go with whichever 1050ti is on deal at the moment. (I personally don't go with Palit or Inno3D, as they use cheaper components, but for an entry level card (the XX50 or XX50ti cards are considered as such) you probably wouldn't go too wrong grabbing one from these manufacturers either. EDIT: Personally, I would go for this MSI one: https://www.box.co.uk/MSI_GeForce_GTX_1050_Ti_4GB_OC_Graphics__2035926.html?gclid=Cj0KEQiAot_FBRCqt8jVsoDKoZABEiQAqFL76LGgJy5SswGbSJQzqaGQ2TAp9vpxuwA3RKdW8njnafAaAoHf8P8HAQAlthough the most recent 1050ti deal is also good: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01M2ZC61B/?tag=ho01f-21I will check the exact specs to see the difference between the two after lunch. :-)



    Thanks for your very detailed and useful help!

    quantum77

    Thanks for your very detailed and useful help!



    No problem. I checked both, I would still go with the MSI, as it have a much better boost and core clock speed. Depends on what budget your friend has :-)

    Original Poster

    Nalwoir

    No problem. I checked both, I would still go with the MSI, as it have a … No problem. I checked both, I would still go with the MSI, as it have a much better boost and core clock speed. Depends on what budget your friend has :-)


    He went with the MSI GTX 1050Ti, but isn't getting a video signal output when it's installed. Also the card's fan isn't running.

    The card has a 6-pin socket, but he doesn't have anywhere to connect this to the PSU. Searching on the web I found ''MSI upgraded the power input of their GTX 1050 Ti to a 6-pin. This input configuration is specified for up to 150 watts of power draw.''

    Perhaps a new PSU is required after all?

    quantum77

    He went with the MSI GTX 1050Ti, but isn't getting a video signal output … He went with the MSI GTX 1050Ti, but isn't getting a video signal output when it's installed. Also the card's fan isn't running. The card has a 6-pin socket, but he doesn't have anywhere to connect this to the PSU. Searching on the web I found ''MSI upgraded the power input of their GTX 1050 Ti to a 6-pin. This input configuration is specified for up to 150 watts of power draw.'' Perhaps a new PSU is required after all?



    Aah, that sucks. Most 1050ti variations draw their power directly from the motherboard. Depending on how your friend bought it, it may be worth returning it and grabbing one that draws its power from the PCI-E slot. Alternatively a Power Supply upgrade would ensure that he can make further modifications down the line.

    quantum77

    He went with the MSI GTX 1050Ti, but isn't getting a video signal output … He went with the MSI GTX 1050Ti, but isn't getting a video signal output when it's installed. Also the card's fan isn't running. The card has a 6-pin socket, but he doesn't have anywhere to connect this to the PSU. Searching on the web I found ''MSI upgraded the power input of their GTX 1050 Ti to a 6-pin. This input configuration is specified for up to 150 watts of power draw.'' Perhaps a new PSU is required after all?


    Ouch! Hope your friend doesn't sue you for misleading him. You owe him a new PSU to compensate and make up.

    quantum77

    He went with the MSI GTX 1050Ti, but isn't getting a video signal output … He went with the MSI GTX 1050Ti, but isn't getting a video signal output when it's installed. Also the card's fan isn't running. The card has a 6-pin socket, but he doesn't have anywhere to connect this to the PSU. Searching on the web I found ''MSI upgraded the power input of their GTX 1050 Ti to a 6-pin. This input configuration is specified for up to 150 watts of power draw.'' Perhaps a new PSU is required after all?


    Yep I would return and buy one without the 6 pin connector. The vast majority don't have this so you have been pretty unlucky!
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