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    USB in a 1998 Computer (Socket 7)

    I got given a copmputer today but unfortunately it uses the cra))ip DIN port for the Keyboard which I don't a keyboard that works with.

    There is a PS/2 card in the PC but it seems that it is for the mouse and not the keyboard..

    I need a keyboard so that I can get past the POST as it says keyboar error or no keyboard etc which prevents it from going any further.

    Will the computer bios recognise the USB keyboard properly? Will USB even work

    I was planning on buying this item off ebay : 400001859165 (item no)

    but will sticking it into the pc and sticking in a keyboard work properly or will the bios not recognise it?

    Tim

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    No it wont work as its just a USB hub using the USB header on your motherboard which yours wont have.

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    GAVINLEWISHUKD;4374640

    No it wont work as its just a USB hub using the USB header on your … No it wont work as its just a USB hub using the USB header on your motherboard which yours wont have.



    good point.. is there actually any way of getting usb on it ?

    Tim

    Get a PCI USB Card, best to get one with a NEC chipset.
    However i don't think this will work for getting past the POST as i believe some PCI cards may be dependant on Windows drivers but if you can get past the POST it would be very useful to have this installed

    timothyw9;4374648

    good point.. is there actually any way of getting usb on it ?Tim



    Well as someone said your only real hope is a PCI card but chances are your bios was never updated for USB support.

    Hook up the HD to your current PC to see if there is any thing exciting on it. As for the rest, bin it or make some 3D art!:-D

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    bargain surfer;4374671

    Get a PCI USB Card, best to get one with a NEC chipset.However i don't … Get a PCI USB Card, best to get one with a NEC chipset.However i don't think this will work for getting past the POST as i believe some PCI cards may be dependant on Windows drivers but if you can get past the POST it would be very useful to have this installed



    Ah yeah just noticed the one I'd posted does just connect to the header on the motherboard.

    I'll probably go to a local PC shop tomorrow and see if they sell any PCI ones cheapish..

    Would I be able to connect a keyboard then and it would recognise it?

    Tim

    Wow, 1998 computer.

    Serious life choice.

    (You do know that the wheel has been invented, right?)

    Original Poster

    stason.org/TUL…tml

    H'mm.... perhaps it does have a USB header as it says USB connector in the I/O Options

    timothyw9;4374754

    http://stason.org/TULARC/pc/motherboards/F/FIRST-INTERNATIONAL-COMPUTER-INC-Pentium-VA-503.htmlH'mm.... perhaps it does have a USB header as it says USB connector in the I/O Options


    u might need some sort of cable and usb riser card to use that particular connector.
    Not being nosey or owt, but why exactly do you want to get a machine that old up and running for? i'm intrigued to know.

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    bargain surfer;4374837

    u might need some sort of cable and usb riser card to use that particular … u might need some sort of cable and usb riser card to use that particular connector.Not being nosey or owt, but why exactly do you want to get a machine that old up and running for? i'm intrigued to know.



    a : the fun of it

    b : use it as a file server or someat lol

    If you dont need to use the keyboard at all you should be able to make it think you have one connected even when you dont. I'll have a think about it but would guess it just uses the grounding for it to think a keyboard is present. Then once your into windows you can use the ps2 port or usb if using windows 2000 and upwards.

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    GAVINLEWISHUKD;4374915

    If you dont need to use the keyboard at all you should be able to make it … If you dont need to use the keyboard at all you should be able to make it think you have one connected even when you dont. I'll have a think about it but would guess it just uses the grounding for it to think a keyboard is present. Then once your into windows you can use the ps2 port or usb if using windows 2000 and upwards.



    Which of the DIN pins is the grounding pin then?

    Tim

    timothyw9;4375105

    Which of the DIN pins is the grounding pin then?Tim



    Dont know off hand and not getting out of bed now. I'll have a look tomorrow.

    Original Poster

    H'm - it appears Pin 4 is the ground but A - how do I get it so that it'll ground etc? + how do i figure which one is pin 4 lol!

    Tim

    timothyw9;4375133

    H'm - it appears Pin 4 is the ground but A - how do I get it so that … H'm - it appears Pin 4 is the ground but A - how do I get it so that it'll ground etc? + how do i figure which one is pin 4 lol!Tim



    Well it should be +5v to ground. Just put a small piece of wire between the two. But as I said its been a long time so I would check first.

    Simply Question........ WHY are you bothering with this :?

    Get a PS/2 > Din adapter. Done.

    Original Poster

    Get a DIN Keyboard. Hey presto lol...

    Managed to borrow one from my Uncle....

    So now that I've got it past post I'm bored and think that Windows 98 smells like cowpoo and that Windows 2000 should be installed...

    I'll report back to you when I'm done..

    Tim

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    loool, whats the spec of it?
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