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    VB1: Do you fileshare? Move to Hull!

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    KC, part of the KCOM Group, has a monopoly on fixed-line internet access in Hull, but less than 400,000 customers, so its proposed that at least initially it will not have to comply with the code.

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    The details of internet users who are accused of unlawful filesharing three times will be recorded on a blacklist so record and film companies can target legal action, rules published today reveal.

    Ofcom has opened consultation on a draft of the code of practice for enforcing the Digital Economy Act's (DEA) copyright enforcement regime. The new government currently has no plans to alter the DEA.

    Under the proposals, the three accusations of unlawful filesharing will not have to come from the same source, but once three are made, any of the organisations that made accusations can apply for a court order to reveal their identity. A person accused of separately infringing a film, a music and a software copyright could be sued by either FACT, the BPI or FAST.

    ISPs will be required to keep a record of accusations for a year from when they are made. Meanwhile rights holders must pass their evidence - likely to comprise an IP address, time stamp and filename - to ISPs within 10 days of being collected.

    The code of practice confirms our report 10 days ago that initially only ISPs with 400,000 or more subscribers will be required to comply with the rules, which are scheduled to come into force on 8 January. That means at first BT, Talk Talk, Virgin Media, Sky, Orange, O2 and Post Office subscribers face warning letters each time they are accused of a copyright infringement.

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    19 Comments

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    Yaay one good thing to come out of living here and putting up with second rate BB.

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    downside, have broadband thats more dial up

    download movies all you want, but it takes 10 days to pirate one

    Also good if you dont live in Hull and use a small ISP like Zen, Plusnet, Ukonline etc etc

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    of course they will comply, this is just advertising bluster, they will 'voluntarily' comply soon enough

    jubbyme;8712714

    of course they will comply, this is just advertising bluster, they will … of course they will comply, this is just advertising bluster, they will 'voluntarily' comply soon enough



    For what reason? Why do they care what their customers download, as long as they are getting your money and keeping you happy.

    The Government have been trying to enforce cutting people off for illegal downloading but its the ISPs that were against it as they dont want to annoy their customers.

    Can't see them volunteering to take part if it isnt essential.

    Will have to look into this Im writing my dissertation on the Digital Economy Bill so could be interesting thanks VB1

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    jubbyme;8712672

    downside, have broadband thats more dial updownload movies all you want, … downside, have broadband thats more dial updownload movies all you want, but it takes 10 days to pirate one



    Well it's hardly dial up, we do have ADSL 2 here so people can get up to 24mb though the fastest I know somebody getting is 18. I only 3.5 as I'm in a new build so far from the nearest exchange.

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    mr.potato_head;8712748

    For what reason? Why do they care what their customers download, as long … For what reason? Why do they care what their customers download, as long as they are getting your money and keeping you happy.The Government have been trying to enforce cutting people off for illegal downloading but its the ISPs that were against it as they dont want to annoy their customers.Can't see them volunteering to take part if it isnt essential.



    any reason to get customers to use less bandwidth for a start, also to be happy and chummy with various government people
    they dont have to try for customers in a closed market, keeping them happy isnt much of a priority once they are snagged in

    dcx_badass;8712819

    Will only affect you on the big companies if you use crap like torrents … Will only affect you on the big companies if you use crap like torrents anyway.



    Lol at you thinking Newsgroups are completely safe because of SSL.

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    Wow.... No Nigel tags! Really is a big sulk!

    Usenet..... SSL.... No problemo.

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    Heres one for ya then.

    o2 is on the list, but Be Broadband (my isp) aren't - but they are the same network.

    Who wins?

    mr.potato_head;8713505

    Lol at you thinking Newsgroups are completely safe because of SSL.



    It isnt filesharing, and as such not being targetted.

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    mr.potato_head;8713505

    Lol at you thinking Newsgroups are completely safe because of SSL.



    In what way do you think it isnt safe? Usenet companies would only release info if they were approached through a court to disclose information. And why would anyone do that and be worried when I'm is the UK and the company I use is in the US.

    It would only be if you uploaded anyone would be looking.....so dont do that and you will be fine..

    PS can I ask you something about sky via PM?

    guv;8713739

    In what way do you think it isnt safe? Usenet companies would only … In what way do you think it isnt safe? Usenet companies would only release info if they were approached through a court to disclose information. And why would anyone do that and be worried when I'm is the UK and the company I use is in the US.It would only be if you uploaded anyone would be looking.....so dont do that and you will be fine..



    Sorry a newb question, does it mean that newsgroup is not affected by this new Ofcom targeting downloaders?

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    Hajoony;8717705

    Sorry a newb question, does it mean that newsgroup is not affected by … Sorry a newb question, does it mean that newsgroup is not affected by this new Ofcom targeting downloaders?



    No it means they would be unable to know that you are not downloading so no reason to challenge. Stuff in torrents can be seen. Encrypted data cant. The only way they could find out is either from the source (US in my case) or my PC, which I wont allow access to. Obviously as things go on, it may change, but SSL usenet is the current safest method to download.

    you dont share on newsgroups, you only leech, that and SSL "should" be enough

    and yes torrents, all a media company has to do is download the file from a torrent themselves, they have the digital rights to it so they can download it all they like, then, become a seeder and track everyone that tries to connect... DONT THINK that this isnt goin on at the moment, cos I'd bet my house on it that it is!

    DudeyGeeza;8717833

    and yes torrents, all a media company has to do is download the file from … and yes torrents, all a media company has to do is download the file from a torrent themselves, they have the digital rights to it so they can download it all they like, then, become a seeder and track everyone that tries to connect... DONT THINK that this isnt goin on at the moment, cos I'd bet my house on it that it is!



    That's how they have been doing up till now.

    I don't understand why more people aren't concerned by this. You are paying for a service that has basically agreed to 'spy' on you on behalf of large corporations. People would be up in arms if they found out the post office was opening peoples mail to check for pirate cd's and dvd's and passing on your details, so I'm stunned some people are ok with this.

    guv;8717738

    No it means they would be unable to know that you are not downloading so … No it means they would be unable to know that you are not downloading so no reason to challenge. Stuff in torrents can be seen. Encrypted data cant. The only way they could find out is either from the source (US in my case) or my PC, which I wont allow access to. Obviously as things go on, it may change, but SSL usenet is the current safest method to download.



    DudeyGeeza;8717806

    you dont share on newsgroups, you only leech, that and SSL "should" be … you dont share on newsgroups, you only leech, that and SSL "should" be enough



    So Astraweb it is,
    Sorry another newb question from my brother, what about rapidshare? :?
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