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    Right, currently on BT 'Unlimited' at 2MB (due to exchange distance blah blah) but as i'm considering moving to a VM cabled area I want to know if VM are any good. Specifically speed/throttling wise. What times do they cut speed, threshold limits etc. BT do it between 4-midnight here, down to 512k, so need to know what virgin do and typical speeds outside those times.

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    after 9 pm you can hammer it until 6am on 10/20mb, im on 50mb they dont traffic manage that woooooohooooooooo you usualy get the full speed

    and wassup wid shengis . net? you upgrading it yet?

    It's not too bad if you know when the traffic management is, as you can usually avoid it. Even with traffic managed speeds you'll most likely be downloading faster than you currently are!
    allyours.virginmedia.com/htm…tml link to traffic management times, they only throttle it to make your internet slower, you'll never be stopped downloading or browsing. And as ]raptorcigs said if you are on 10/20 then you can download as much as you like at night, I usually schedule my d/ls at evening anyway as rapidshare has unlimited downloads during the same hours.

    Vm aint too bad, been with them since cable and wireless days 10 or so years ago and not really had any problems, but if you do have the call centre aint the nicest of places! A tip is to use the virgin media newsgroups, you get a quick reply and can order new modems and so on through it, though any account changes you'll need to use the call centre. You should get advertised speed unlike adsl!

    Original Poster

    raptorcigs;5682167

    after 9 pm you can hammer it until 6am on 10/20mb, im on 50mb they dont … after 9 pm you can hammer it until 6am on 10/20mb, im on 50mb they dont traffic manage that woooooohooooooooo you usualy get the full speedand wassup wid shengis . net? you upgrading it yet?



    So they throttle 6am-9pm :? Bloody hell :lol:

    One day I shall get back to shengis.net. I lost everything when my last host folded and I lost my backups.

    Shengis;5682214

    So they throttle 6am-9pm :? Bloody hell :lol:One day I shall get back to … So they throttle 6am-9pm :? Bloody hell :lol:One day I shall get back to shengis.net. I lost everything when my last host folded and I lost my backups.



    10am-9pm, but you get to download a certain amount during that time before you are throttled, so as long as you aren't downloading heavy files you won't be traffic managed

    http://i31.tinypic.com/112h4jb.jpg this is me downloading some news
    or is it im not saying ahem

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    krato;5682233

    10am-9pm, but you get to download a certain amount during that time … 10am-9pm, but you get to download a certain amount during that time before you are throttled, so as long as you aren't downloading heavy files you won't be traffic managed



    So any idea of a typical expected daily throughput (under ideal condidtions)? On 2mb BT ADSL I can manage an average 11GB.

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    raptorcigs;5682252

    this is me downloading some newsor is it im not saying ahem



    'news' :lol: Right number of letters at least, reckon the 'n' is the only correct one though :w00t:

    Shengis;5682259

    So any idea of a typical expected daily throughput (under ideal … So any idea of a typical expected daily throughput (under ideal condidtions)? On 2mb BT ADSL I can manage an average 11GB.



    non stop on 10mb it'd look something like this

    9am - 10am
    5gig

    10am - 3pm
    7.5 gig

    10am-9pm
    10gig

    9pm - 9am
    56gig


    Probably double the numbers for 20meg

    Shengis;5682266

    'news' :lol: Right number of letters at least, reckon the 'n' is the only … 'news' :lol: Right number of letters at least, reckon the 'n' is the only correct one though :w00t:


    my download speed rocks
    i was actualy dl ing avg free lol

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    Just set your download limits on utorrent to fall just below the limit allowed between the two traffic managed periods (10am-3pm and 4pm-9pm)

    csiman;5682550

    Just set your download limits on utorrent to fall just below the limit … Just set your download limits on utorrent to fall just below the limit allowed between the two traffic managed periods (10am-3pm and 4pm-9pm)


    dont work that way they are triggerd by downloading more than a gig during these times then your scupperd for 24hrs

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    raptorcigs;5682578

    dont work that way they are triggerd by downloading more than a gig … dont work that way they are triggerd by downloading more than a gig during these times then your scupperd for 24hrs



    yes it does, the maximum is 12 hours, but thats only on the small 2mb package, any other is 5 hours

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    So how honest are they about the 75%? If you had 10mb do they actually give you 2.5mb after you've caned it? If so it's still better than what i've got now :lol:

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    Shengis;5682686

    So how honest are they about the 75%? If you had 10mb do they actually … So how honest are they about the 75%? If you had 10mb do they actually give you 2.5mb after you've caned it? If so it's still better than what i've got now :lol:



    yep, im on 20mb and get exactly 5 on the rare occasion when I get throttled

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    raptorcigs;5682578

    dont work that way they are triggerd by downloading more than a gig … dont work that way they are triggerd by downloading more than a gig during these times then your scupperd for 24hrs


    thats wrong.

    1. your bandwidth is throttled for 5 hours from when you hit the limit

    2. The limit between 10am and 3pm is say 1500mb. Just set utorrent to only download at a max of say 80KB/s and then you wont dl more than 1125MB between those 5 hours via utorrent.

    Limit totals start at zero from 10AM and are reset again at 4PM

    I do this and hardly ever get throttled unless I've been using excessive bandwidth elsewhere

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    Shengis;5682686

    So how honest are they about the 75%? If you had 10mb do they actually … So how honest are they about the 75%? If you had 10mb do they actually give you 2.5mb after you've caned it? If so it's still better than what i've got now :lol:


    mine goes down to exactly 2.5mbps from 10mbps

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    just wish I could save the utorrent download restrictions into a profile as sometimes I dont want them to apply.

    Original Poster

    Sounds good then. I'm not bothered 'when' I can download, just that I can, so using limiters isn't a problem. I currently use Netlimiter as its the quickest way to adjust overall bandwidth and it keeps a log of all throughput so I can see where the problem areas are.

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    Shengis;5682793

    Sounds good then. I'm not bothered 'when' I can download, just that I … Sounds good then. I'm not bothered 'when' I can download, just that I can, so using limiters isn't a problem. I currently use Netlimiter as its the quickest way to adjust overall bandwidth and it keeps a log of all throughput so I can see where the problem areas are.


    also, VM are very reliable. Probably had no more than a few hours downtime in over 10 years (apart from when I drilled through the cable myself lol)

    colinsunderland;5682673

    yes it does, the maximum is 12 hours, but thats only on the small 2mb … yes it does, the maximum is 12 hours, but thats only on the small 2mb package, any other is 5 hours


    the engineer was talking about my 20mb

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    raptorcigs;5683089

    the engineer was talking about my 20mb



    then the engineer didn't know what he was talking about
    On 20mb you will only be limited for 5 hours, and you will certainly be able to download more than 1gb
    Theres a link to the policy on the first page of this thread.

    colinsunderland;5683110

    then the engineer didn't know what he was talking aboutOn 20mb you will … then the engineer didn't know what he was talking aboutOn 20mb you will only be limited for 5 hours, and you will certainly be able to download more than 1gbTheres a link to the policy on the first page of this thread.


    in that case the program they use is at fault as i have experianced otherwise

    colinsunderland;5683110

    then the engineer didn't know what he was talking aboutOn 20mb you will … then the engineer didn't know what he was talking aboutOn 20mb you will only be limited for 5 hours, and you will certainly be able to download more than 1gbTheres a link to the policy on the first page of this thread.


    ps company policy dont mean jack,they all abuse it to suit themselves

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    raptorcigs;5683148

    ps company policy dont mean jack,they all abuse it to suit themselves



    Well if you download 1gb then are limited to 5mb speeds for 24 hours I suggest you call customer relations and get a reason why as that shouldn't happen. In fact I would suggest you have a line fault rather than them having a fault with their software as you are the only person I've seen with this problem.

    Its more likely to be the engineer was an install tech and didn't know how to fix the fault so made some rubbish up!

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    colinsunderland;5683190

    Well if you download 1gb then are limited to 5mb speeds for 24 hours I … Well if you download 1gb then are limited to 5mb speeds for 24 hours I suggest you call customer relations and get a reason why as that shouldn't happen. In fact I would suggest you have a line fault rather than them having a fault with their software as you are the only person I've seen with this problem.Its more likely to be the engineer was an install tech and didn't know how to fix the fault so made some rubbish up!


    +1 :thumbsup:

    why do they lie?

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    raptorcigs;5683590

    why do they lie?


    maybe just misinformed or guessing.

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    raptorcigs;5683590

    why do they lie?



    cos they couldn't be bothered to do their job properly? No idea, but whats for sure is that the information he gave you was wrong

    Bit late but for anyone else, limiting your downloads is pointless, because leaving it running at full speed and hitting the traffic managed speed you can still download more than what you would keeping your speeds low to avoid hitting speed management

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    krato;5715277

    Bit late but for anyone else, limiting your downloads is pointless, … Bit late but for anyone else, limiting your downloads is pointless, because leaving it running at full speed and hitting the traffic managed speed you can still download more than what you would keeping your speeds low to avoid hitting speed management



    That's how I saw it, then shut down your downloads completely till session end so you still get high speed web access, or carry on downloading at slower speed.

    Any idea how long it takes to get VM connected up after you order it?

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    krato;5715277

    Bit late but for anyone else, limiting your downloads is pointless, … Bit late but for anyone else, limiting your downloads is pointless, because leaving it running at full speed and hitting the traffic managed speed you can still download more than what you would keeping your speeds low to avoid hitting speed management


    not quite true

    if I dl 1400mb between 4-9pm then I have dl'd 1400mb and can then go back to full speed at 9pm

    if I say dl 1500mb which takes 3 hours between 4-7pm I then get hit with only 25% speeds for 5 hours (7pm till midnight).

    not a lot in it I reckon.
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