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    Vista help...

    ... ok I have been searching for an answer/solution to this for the last 3-4 hours and found nothing.

    When using the 'safely remove hardware' feature to remove a 1gb fash drive or a 640gb WD my book external hdd, the LED light remains on even when a popup says the drive has been safely removed. When I remove the USB from the western digital I can hear it shutting down as if it has been switched off at the wall, which is quite worrying as I don't want to corrupt the data.
    I also have a computer running xp but the problem doesn't exsist there. The western digital drive powers down normally when it is safely removed from xp and the LED light goes off.

    The only workaround is by putting the vista laptop into sleep mode and removing it when it has powered down, but this defeats the purpose of the safely remove hardware.

    This problem seems to affect a lot of vista users but so far I have been unable to find any solution, so any help guys and girls will be appreciated. Thanks

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    is it a new problem or just a newly encountered one (i.e. did it used to work fine but not any longer)?

    if former, maybe rolling back an updated driver will help?

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    Liddle ol' me;4313487

    is it a new problem or just a newly encountered one (i.e. did it used to … is it a new problem or just a newly encountered one (i.e. did it used to work fine but not any longer)?if latter, maybe rolling back an updated driver will help?



    since I have had the laptop (september 2008) it has always been a problem. TBH I wasn't really worried about pulling out the 1gb drive as if it stops working its not a big loss, but worried about the new 640gb drive.

    It won't make any difference with the HDD. It is still storage and won,t corrupt it.

    gr8h8me;4313534

    It won't make any difference with the HDD. It is still storage and won,t … It won't make any difference with the HDD. It is still storage and won,t corrupt it.



    That's my understanding too - as long as external storage isn't removed during a retrieval there is nothing to worry about afaik

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    gr8h8me;4313534

    It won't make any difference with the HDD. It is still storage and won,t … It won't make any difference with the HDD. It is still storage and won,t corrupt it.



    I think I would still rather put the computer into sleep mode instead of risk the data... I always use the safely remove hardware you see.:oops: Is there some sort of system update that would rectify this problem - I have had a look at the microsoft website, but couldn't find anything.

    Original Poster

    Liddle ol' me;4313554

    That's my understanding too - as long as external storage isn't removed … That's my understanding too - as long as external storage isn't removed during a retrieval there is nothing to worry about afaik



    well I suppose I have been disconnecting the usb lead when I thought the drive was 'safely removed' previously but would like a solution to the problem if one was available?

    It doesn't make a blind bit of difference. I have a portable HDD and about 5 Flash Drives I don't even use the remove hardware button. It seems a lot of trouble updating drivers to get rid of it. Don't disconnect when transfering that all I will say.
    There are ways of checking it through device manager / regedit etc but have a look on Google it would take too long to go through all the checks...

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    gr8h8me;4313666

    It doesn't make a blind bit of difference. I have a portable HDD and … It doesn't make a blind bit of difference. I have a portable HDD and about 5 Flash Drives I don't even use the remove hardware button. It seems a lot of trouble updating drivers to get rid of it. Don't disconnect when transfering that all I will say.There are ways of checking it through device manager / regedit etc but have a look on Google it would take too long to go through all the checks...



    I just don't get why the same feature works on xp but not on vista. I would have though microsoft would have released some sort of update? (possibly not as I can't see anything about this on the microsoft website)

    Is there anyone using vista on here that has the same problem?

    ditto - a vista trait - just remove software as usual and you'll be ok

    Original Poster

    anyone know anything else about this?

    try ]here??

    live by the sword....

    I completely disagree with the not bothering to do the safely remove hardware part, as I work in IT I've seen too many people who have been proved wrong about that when they've found they're data has gone. What typically happens is that the data will appear to transfer correctly and show on the drive but when you put it in another machine it won't be there. It's not a common occurrence but enough to make me ensure I remove the drive properly.

    If a drive can't be removed it means there's something keeping it open, if it's nothing obvious I'd check the anti-virus as I'm having trouble on a desktop machine with McAfee and I believe it's the source for this particular problem.

    John

    maddogb;4317643

    try ]here??;) live by the sword....


    TYPO FAIL
    HaHA LOL!

    bargain surfer;4317747

    TYPO FAILHaHA LOL!



    oh dear, see ]here for explanation

    Johnmcl7;4317741

    I completely disagree with the not bothering to do the safely remove … I completely disagree with the not bothering to do the safely remove hardware part, as I work in IT I've seen too many people who have been proved wrong about that when they've found they're data has gone. What typically happens is that the data will appear to transfer correctly and show on the drive but when you put it in another machine it won't be there. It's not a common occurrence but enough to make me ensure I remove the drive properly.If a drive can't be removed it means there's something keeping it open, if it's nothing obvious I'd check the anti-virus as I'm having trouble on a desktop machine with McAfee and I believe it's the source for this particular problem.John



    must have a pile ofd**kheads working their. I always check its there fist:p

    Original Poster

    maddogb;4317643

    try ]here??;) live by the sword....



    Did you do this because you realised it was me who started the "let me google that for you" thread or were you trying to be smart and failing, lol

    Seriously tho I have been searching and can't find anything.

    DD98;4325963

    Did you do this because you realised it was me who started the "let me … Did you do this because you realised it was me who started the "let me google that for you" thread or were you trying to be smart and failing, lol Seriously tho I have been searching and can't find anything.



    The light's staying on because the light indicates that the device has power, not that it's in any sort of use with the OS. Try plugging the gear in when you're in the BIOS setup and you'll see the lights illuminate. The Safe Removal feature doesn't do a great deal. It's there because Windows tries to speed up access to devices by caching and deferring writes and reads. What this means is that while in ye olde days your whole system would freeze momentarily when saving a file, it's now done more or less instant, which is nice, except with the downside that if the device is pulled before all the data is written, you get a corrupt file. Safe removal forces Windows to write everything to the drive and to close and access to it so that nothing can go wrong with your data.

    So,keep doing the safe removal, and don't worry about the lights.
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