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    VW diesel scandal

    Ok so got a letter today from VW courtesy of the DVLA about my motor - apparently it's one of the many affected by the highly publicised emissions scandal and all they've said is they'll be in touch to fix it.

    The Americans meanwhile get compo and even if they want it the chance for a full refund of their car - the U.K owners get nothing apart from the inconvenience of a fix as and when it's available.

    Why are our government so soft and utterly useless ?

    Have you got a VW that's affected like mine and what's your thoughts on it ?

    Do you think a compo solicitors claim is viable ?

    It just pees me off that the Americans get whatever they want whilst us brits get diddly squat! Not even a free service nothin.

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    Yes my golf needs to go in. No I'm not bothered. Neither am I interested in scrounging for compo. Americans will sue for anything. Their courts are pathetic.
    Get it sorted and move on.

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    craigstephens

    Yes my golf needs to go in. No I'm not bothered. Neither am I interested … Yes my golf needs to go in. No I'm not bothered. Neither am I interested in scrounging for compo. Americans will sue for anything. Their courts are pathetic.Get it sorted and move on.



    Yea I half agree but a free service would be a nice touch and let's face it it wouldn't cost VW a lot in comparison to what they are forking out in the states.

    Let's not forget this fix will be as and when it's convenient for them and not the owners of those cars affected

    VW are not the only offenders and some deny even major mechanical flaws are widespread and refuse to compensate owners. What VW did is pretty small fry in my eyes and the yanks have madea meal of it with their legal system. Just face it they are only turning off the cheat software which can be done at your next service.

    pennyfarthing88

    Yea I half agree but a free service would be a nice touch and let's face … Yea I half agree but a free service would be a nice touch and let's face it it wouldn't cost VW a lot in comparison to what they are forking out in the states. Let's not forget this fix will be as and when it's convenient for them and not the owners of those cars affected



    I'm sure they won't give you a time and date you have to bring it in. It will be treated as a normal recall - book it in at your convenience.
    Nice touch or not, they won't give anything away for free. I've had numerous recalls on cars over the years, bar the media hype over this, it's no different.

    The emissions scandal is to do with cheat systems to reduce NOx emissions during testing.

    USA emissions cover NOx - UK regulations do not - it is not part of the emissions test nor is it part of the MOT test......

    VW cars would have failed the US regulations if they had not been fitted with the cheat systems.

    CO2 emissions are part of the EEC test and it is likely that the manufacturers (not just VW but also Renault and probably most of them) also used other methods to pass the lab test. Unfortunately manufacturers are allowed to fit test cars with "ECU software not available to the general public" so they will argue that they have done nothing wrong.....

    Real world Co2 emissions and fuel consumption bear no resemblance to the test figures in the EEC - in the USA the regulators can pull a car out of the showroom and test it. The manufacturers are allowed a small margin from the official figures but have the powers to force the manufacturers to restate their figures and also fine them if they discover major differences. No such powers over here.

    VWs sold in the USA were modified to cheat their regulations and they got caught out.

    The old mercs had the best cheat.....they just stuck an air pump into the exhaust system to mix in fresh air with the emissions and water them down!

    My company car went in on Monday for a service, they said it needed two software updates, when asked what they were I was told they did not know what it was for or why? I'm assuming this may be the reason why

    I agree that people are fixating on VW, the original report that broke the story stated that 2 of the 25 cars tested had emission levels HIGHER than the other 23 put together, VW wasnt one of the 2 cars; so there are two makes out there with MUCH more polluting cars that have been allowed to get away with it.

    Back to that Merc cheat, they got a slap on the wrist, but a Hyundai that failed a few years ago got huge fines; the system is rigged people. Any bets the Merc was a US built one, and the two cars that REALLY cheated are both US built models??

    I personally wouldn't bother having the fix, You'll no doubt lose performance and your mpg will most likely suffer.

    "What does the recall involve?

    2.0-litre and 1.2-litre diesels will receive a software tweak, while vehicles with a 1.6-litre diesel will need to be fitted with a ‘flow transformer’ device to help the engine’s computer calculate the right amount of fuel and air being combusted.

    This means around 400,000 UK cars will require mechanical changes - but VW says they should take less than an hour to make at dealerships. The software update for 2.0 and 1.2 engines will take around half an hour.".

    Edited by: ".MUFC." 10th Nov 2016

    My audi is affected. Got the letter to book it in months ago. Definitely wont be getting it done its quick enough very economical and passes emissions test as it is so no benefit really. Emissions tests are a joke on diesels whack in an addiditive thrash it in 3rd for 4 miles flies through the test 1 week later its reeking again lol

    My son has an Hyundai i30, will he get a letter???

    summerof76

    My son has an Hyundai i30, will he get a letter???



    Nope.

    shauneco

    Nope.


    Thanks

    My Skoda Superb was subject of a recall for this issue. It did not worry me at all, the Skoda garage did an okay job (apart from losing the oil filler cap - but they did replace it) and threw in a bag of goodies (Crackerjack pencil &c).
    I don't believe in the compensation culture, I just don't think it is a good way to run society. All manufacturers will try to push the limits of government tests, it is not VAG's fault that the tests the EU has set are silly (different tests in the US: for NOX rather than CO2, but equally silly).

    We've so far had four letters, the first saying our car is affected and the last three basically saying that they will be in touch at some point to update the car. I agree that a complimentary service would be a good gesture and cheaper than compo.

    Is it true that the government will be imposing a new tax on diesel cars next year?
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